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The Olympic Park timetables are again operating for the Women Fifa championships.
Link pages are present for all 9 routes but for routes 1B, 2 and 4 the actual timetables are not available yet.
The timetables for the other routes show a starting date of 17th July (a Monday) but actually operating on Thursdays only covering the first game on 20th July - there is no finishing date. But games at Olympic Park do not all take place on Thursdays so I dont know what will happen when subsequent games take place on other days of the week. The event information for such games all show these routes as operating.
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Stu wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:31 am The TfNSW Trackwork Reference Guide web page no longer exists, this page used to display the following documents:
- Trackwork Reference Guide.
- Trackwork Bussing Map.
- Timetables (Microsoft Excel).

The link https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/sydney ... ence-guide now redirects to a new page
https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/future ... k-calendar

The future trackwork calendar document is available which was available on the previous web page link above. There have been some amendments in a short space of time. The words 'major weekday' have been removed from the current version.
Current version Monday 17/72023 - Sunday 29/10/2023.
Previous version Monday 3/72023 - Sunday 24/9/2023.

The last group of documents published:
19 - 25 June 2023 Trackwork Reference Guide v6
230619 Trackwork Bussing Map 19 - 25 June v2
230619 T1 North Shore Line
230619 T1 Western Line and Blue Mountains Line
230619 T2 T3 T5 Mon - Thu
230620 T2 T5 Wednesday
230623 T8 Airport & South Line Friday night Airport stations
230623 T8 Airport & South Line Friday night Glenfield - Sydenham
230624 T2 Line Weekend
230624 T8 Airport & South Line Airport stations
230624 T8 Airport & South Line Glenfield - Sydenham
New web page that replaces the one mentioned above and is centred around the 'Sydney Rail Repair Plan'.
https://transportnsw.info/getting-sydney-back-on-track

Monday 10 - Sunday 16, 2023.
- all trackwork alerts (text) for the affected week.
- Downloadable network map with the date correlating to the affected week.
- no excel spreadsheet timetables.
- all trackwork alerts (text) for Monday 17 - Sunday 23, 2023 are displayed.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:27 pm The Olympic Park timetables are again operating for the Women Fifa championships.
Link pages are present for all 9 routes but for routes 1B, 2 and 4 the actual timetables are not available yet.
The timetables for the other routes show a starting date of 17th July (a Monday) but actually operating on Thursdays only covering the first game on 20th July - there is no finishing date. But games at Olympic Park do not all take place on Thursdays so I dont know what will happen when subsequent games take place on other days of the week. The event information for such games all show these routes as operating.
Timetables are still not available for routes 1B, 2 and 4.
According to Tripview none of the further games are on Thursday.
Monday 7/8. Sat 12/8, Wed 16/8 and Sun 20. I guess one or more separately timetables will be issued for bus services on those days.
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There is now a timetable for route 2 on the same basis as the others.

Timetables for routes 10HU and 15HU for 27 July show the operator as Hunter Valley Buses. There is still only a small percentage of temporary timetables which show the operator name.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:12 pm
Timetables are still not available for routes 1B, 2 and 4.
According to Tripview none of the further games are on Thursday.
Monday 7/8. Sat 12/8, Wed 16/8 and Sun 20. I guess one or more separately timetables will be issued for bus services on those days.
Timetable still not available on Transport for NSW for route 1B even though the game is on tonight. But available on Antrip and Tripview.
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Alert 16000 lists 7 temporary bus routes for route work to T1 this weekend but only 6 timetables are shown with no timetable available for route 61T1.
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For 31st July temporary routes 60T8 and 62T8 again show the operator as Transdev John Holland - still a rarity for this to happen.
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The route 1 Central - Moore Park is displayed as operating on Sunday August 6. No downloadable timetable

The special event tram route LX continues to be displayed as operating on various days without any downloadable timetable.
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Temporary special event routes X24, X81 and X82 have been renumbered.

X24 (Watsons Bay to Circular Quay) is now the 329x
X81 (Bondi Beach to Bondi Jn) is now the 381x
X82 (Bondi Beach to Hyde Park) is now the 382x
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5/8/2023 T7 Rail Replacement route timetable 40 T7 shows it as being operated by Transdev John Holland. The previous time it ran, it was operated by Busways.
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Noel wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:43 am Temporary special event routes X24, X81 and X82 have been renumbered.

X24 (Watsons Bay to Circular Quay) is now the 329x
X81 (Bondi Beach to Bondi Jn) is now the 381x
X82 (Bondi Beach to Hyde Park) is now the 382x
There was discussion on this board a while ago about these routes possibly being renumbered. I would expect the X26 to be renumbered to 526x. The next time this as routes is due to operate is expected to be the NRL Grand Final in October.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:53 pm
Fleet Lists wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:12 pm
Timetables are still not available for routes 1B, 2 and 4.
According to Tripview none of the further games are on Thursday.
Monday 7/8. Sat 12/8, Wed 16/8 and Sun 20. I guess one or more separately timetables will be issued for bus services on those days.
Timetable still not available on Transport for NSW for route 1B even though the game is on tonight. But available on Antrip and Tripview.
How to confuse people with timetables.
The latest versions of the Olympic Park routes is now:
Routes 1A, 5A and 5B Two separate timetable one as current showing trips for Thursdays only but no future games are on Thursday and one for the next game on 7 August only.
Routes 6 and 7 one as current showing trips for Thursdays only but no future games are on Thursday.
Routes 2, 4 and 8 - nothing -no link pages or timetables.
Route 1B - Still just a link page but no timetables.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:43 pm
How to confuse people with timetables.
The latest versions of the Olympic Park routes is now:
Routes 1A, 5A and 5B Two separate timetable one as current showing trips for Thursdays only but no future games are on Thursday and one for the next game on 7 August only.
Routes 6 and 7 one as current showing trips for Thursdays only but no future games are on Thursday.
Routes 2, 4 and 8 - nothing -no link pages or timetables.
Route 1B - Still just a link page but no timetables.
Routes 6, 7 and 8 as shown now - Three separate timetables one as current showing trips for Thursdays only but no future games are on Thursday, one for the next game on 7 August only and one for the game on 12 August.
Others unchanged from yesterday
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Routes 1A, 1B, 5A and 5B now have timetables for both 7 August and 12August leaving 2 and 4 with nothing, possibly just missing link pages.
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Metro temporary routes 11M and 12M for 5 and 6 August show Hillsbus as the operator as usual.

Hunter valley alert 19623 for routes 1HU, 7HU, 18HU, 19HU, and 26HU for 4 and 5 August as usual show Hunter Valley Buses as the operator. Still awaiting timetables for routes 78HU, 79HU and 8AHU.

But most timetables still do not show the operator's name and show the Opal card as not acceptable.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:08 pm Hunter valley alert 19623 for routes 1HU, 7HU, 18HU, 19HU, and 26HU for 4 and 5 August as usual show Hunter Valley Buses as the operator. Still awaiting timetables for routes 78HU, 79HU and 8AHU.

But most timetables still do not show the operator's name and show the Opal card as not acceptable.
Hunter Line train replacement continues onto Monday the 7th of August which is very rare for daywork trackwork between Newcastle & Maitland. In the past Hunter Valley buses have partially operated this (Thornton Depot) although there is a slight difference where Rover & Port Stephens have operated the weekday rail replacement when this has occurred in the past.

Would be very keen to know if this will be the case for next Monday.

I have checked trip planner, there is no replacement bus routes listed for Maitland --> Newcastle Interchange listed as of this post for Monday 7th August.
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Stu wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 pm
Noel wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:43 am Temporary special event routes X24, X81 and X82 have been renumbered.

X24 (Watsons Bay to Circular Quay) is now the 329x
X81 (Bondi Beach to Bondi Jn) is now the 381x
X82 (Bondi Beach to Hyde Park) is now the 382x
There was discussion on this board a while ago about these routes possibly being renumbered. I would expect the X26 to be renumbered to 526x. The next time this as routes is due to operate is expected to be the NRL Grand Final in October.
382X is also due to operate for the City to Surf on 13th August. Timetable link is available showing Opal Card acceptable but actual timetable is not available.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:08 am Hunter Line train replacement continues onto Monday the 7th of August which is very rare for daywork trackwork between Newcastle & Maitland. In the past Hunter Valley buses have partially operated this (Thornton Depot) although there is a slight difference where Rover & Port Stephens have operated the weekday rail replacement when this has occurred in the past.

Would be very keen to know if this will be the case for next Monday.
New temporary timetables have been uploaded for next Monday coming (7th August), good news is I am seeing what I expected to see, it says replacement routes operated by "train replacement bus operator". But if I look at Saturday & Sunday (5th & 6th) it says on the weekend it is operated by just Hunter Valley Buses alone.

Very high chance Rover or Port Stephens will be making an appearance on the weekday replacement runs for the Hunter Line. Hunter Valley Buses may still jump in where applicable on Monday.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:31 am New temporary timetables have been uploaded for next Monday coming (7th August), good news is I am seeing what I expected to see, it says replacement routes operated by "train replacement bus operator". But if I look at Saturday & Sunday (5th & 6th) it says on the weekend it is operated by just Hunter Valley Buses alone.

Very high chance Rover or Port Stephens will be making an appearance on the weekday replacement runs for the Hunter Line. Hunter Valley Buses may still jump in where applicable on Monday.
Alert 19623 now lists
Bus routes
1HU Telarah, then all stations to Newcastle Interchange and return
4HU Dugong, then all stations to Maitland and return (Monday only)
7HU Warabrook Station to University shuttle bus
8AHU Maitland, then Victoria Street, Thornton, Beresfield, then express to Berowra, then Hornsby, and return (Saturday and Sunday only)
9HU Scone, then all stations to Lochinvar and then, Morisset and return (Monday only)
18HU Scone, all stations to Lochinvar, Maitland, Victoria Street, then all stations to Beresfield, Warabrook, then all stations to Newcastle Interchange and return
19HU Dungog, all stations to Maitland, Victoria Street, then all stations to Beresfield, Warabrook, then all stations to Newcastle Interchange and return
26HU Singleton, all stations to Lochinvar, Maitland, Victoria Street, then all stations to Beresfield, Warabrook, then all stations to Newcastle Interchange and return
28HU Muswellbrook, then all stations to Maitland, Victoria Street, then all to Beresfield, Warabrook, then all stations to Newcastle Interchange and return (Monday only)
29HU Newcastle Interchange, then all stations to Thornton and return (limited time - Monday only)
78HU Scone, all stations to Maitland, then Victoria Street, Thornton, Beresfield, then express to Berowra, then Hornsby and return (Saturday and Sunday only)
79HU Singleton, all stations to Maitland, then Victoria Street, Thornton, Beresfield, then express to Berowra, then Hornsby and return (Saturday and Sunday only)
The weekend timetables have now all disappeared
1HU now only shows a timetable for 7 August - the previous weekend one is gone.
4HU link page only - timetable not available.
7HU previous timetable gone.
8AHU nothing
9HU 7 August only
18HU weekend only as before
19HU link page only - timetable not available. There was previously a timetable.
26HU weekend only as previously
28HU and 29HU 7 August only.
78HU and 79HU nothing
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The original 1HU, 7HU and 19HU timetables have been restored by creating separate link pages for the two timetables for each route - necessary because of the different region codes used for the two timetables. 19HU timetable still not available for 7 August.
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Still no timetables for Hunter Valley routes 78HU, 79HU and 8AHu even though these are supposed to be operating this weekend,
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No real time trip tracking showing for the Hunter lines Train replacement buses this morning, I have a feeling PSC or Costal Liner is running it but will wait and see.

I'd be more curious who and what bus is running on the Newcastle UNI 7HU run between the campus and Warrabrook station given the turn around at Warrabrook station is too tight for anything except a MIDI bus.
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7HU is quite frequently shown as being operated by Hunter Valley Buses but for the current service there are two link pages one of which shows as "Opal Card Accepted" but timetable not available and the other "Opal Card not accepted and links to the actual timetable which shows being operated by Rail Replacement operators.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:37 pm Routes 1A, 1B, 5A and 5B now have timetables for both 7 August and 12August leaving 2 and 4 with nothing, possibly just missing link pages.
Today is the 7 August with route 2 now showing a link page which links to the OLD timetable which only shows trips on Thursday which is very helpful. Route 4 shows a correct timetable for 7th August only.
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The timetables for routes 20T4 and 23T4 from 14 August show the normal operated by Transdev John Holland and Opal Card acceptable.

On the other hand Olympic Park route 4 for this Saturday 12 August is being operated by Transit Systems instead of Transdev John Holland. And route 2 is still showing the timetable with Thursday only trips.
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