Re: Ferry Observations 2023

[Swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5EL4fGnA0

Information scant in the video (as in the post).

[Swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5EL4fGnA0

Who was at fault? Information is scant to say the least.
Was the harbour cruise vessel blind as a bat?

[tonyp]

Information scant in the video (as in the post).

A picture is worth a thousand words.

The Captain Cook would have to give way to the starboard, which he did, but the intentions of the Collaroy were ambiguous and the Cook skipper must have assumed Collaroy was going to turn into Sydney Cove earlier. It's hard to tell what Collaroy was doing - on a Manly run, or running trials straight up and down the harbour?

Those Emeralds really go.

[tonyp]

It was a regular run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz0LhjWKGVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50HTbwCm_F0

I can see that the Collaroy left his turn into the Quay too late and bamboozled the Sydney skipper. Another steering failure?

[Swift]

Ok. Makes sense now.

[tonyp]

Seven new Parramatta River ferries ordered, to be built in Hobart. Delivery from 2024.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ ... 401598a581

[Randomness]

Can’t read the article due to the paywall (NewsCorp papers aren’t affected by the 12ft bypass unfortunately)

I’m guessing the contract went to Incat then?

[tonyp]

Can’t read the article due to the paywall (NewsCorp papers aren’t affected by the 12ft bypass unfortunately)

I’m guessing the contract went to Incat then?

No. Richardson Devine Marine Constructions.

[Linto63]

Will be 24 metres long Probably will be similar to these Captain Cook vessels that were also designed by Incat Crowther and built by Richardson Devine Marine.

[Swift]

Never found the endeavour class devine. Probably because I associate them with the Greiner/ Baird years.

[boronia]

Sydney told to embrace ‘greener future’ with electric ferries

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/syd ... 5dp1s.html

The NSW government has announced it will review how to reduce Sydney’s ferry emissions, despite weeks earlier announcing it would purchase seven new diesel vessels for the Circular Quay to Parramatta route.

The push to reduce emissions in the transport sector – the second-largest contributor of NSW greenhouse gas emissions – is an issue the government will need to address quickly as it seeks to hit bold targets with the possibility of coal-fired power stations remaining open.
A mock-up of an electric ferry, designed by EV Maritime, that could help NSW lower its emissions.

A mock-up of an electric ferry, designed by EV Maritime, that could help NSW lower its emissions. Credit: EV Maritime

The strategic review will look into vessel infrastructure electrification requirements and the availability and location of other low-emission fuel sources, including hydrogen, according to information obtained in Parliamentary Questions on Notice released earlier this month.

Michael Eaglen, chief executive of EV Maritime (a marine technology and consulting business focusing on decarbonising the global inshore maritime sector) said the review was a welcome step, but failure to decarbonise the sector would see Sydney fall behind.

“Sydney can embrace a greener future,” he said. “It is a big project to electrify ferries, there is a lot involved and it is important to do it right so that you are still delivering reliable services to the commuting public.

“It is something that needs to be started now and then managed responsibly and carefully.”

The company’s road map towards decarbonisation, released on Wednesday, found that the F1 ferry – between Manly and Circular Quay – emits the highest portion of emissions per year at about 38.1 per cent, while the F3 service between Parramatta and Circular Quay emits the second highest at 26.7 per cent.

The lowest emitting service is the F10 ferry from Blackwattle Bay to the city, producing just 0.3 per cent each year.
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EV Maritime is currently working with the New Zealand government to build fully electric, 200-passenger fast ferries, known as EVM200, as part of a $34 million contract.

Eaglen said the New Zealand ferries could be rolled out in Sydney, which would allow the city to reduce air pollution, combat climate change and create a sustainable transport system.

“It is important Sydney is not left behind,” he said.

Last month, the government announced it would invest in seven new ferries to replace the Australian-built RiverCat ferries, which have served the Parramatta River route since 1992. The older ferries have been plagued with issues, including asbestos in the boats and not being able to fit under some bridges with passengers on the top deck.

The new ferries will use 40 per cent less diesel and are capable of being transitioned to hybrid or electric propulsion over time. Ferry engines are usually replaced after five years of service, providing opportunities to make these upgrades during the 25-30 year working life of the Parramatta Class ferries.

Transport for NSW is investigating more sustainable methods to power Sydney’s transport system, said a spokesperson for Transport Minister Jo Haylen. This includes the 8000 buses across NSW that the government is transitioning to zero-emission technology.

EV Maritime will build two electric ferries for Auckland Council, which charge while docked to let on passengers.

“The new vessel design is also future-proofed for conversion to electric propulsion when the network infrastructure is ready,” the spokesperson said. “This conversion will also require planning for new onshore infrastructure, including the placement of charging stations at selected docking wharves.”

The spokesperson added that under the previous government, the planned rollout to convert the state’s buses to electric vehicles by 2030 fell 17 years behind schedule.

“Of the 8000 buses in our fleet, 112 zero-emissions buses currently operate throughout Greater Sydney,” the spokesperson said. “When our fleet of buses has fully transitioned to zero-emission buses, we estimate our carbon emissions will be reduced by 509,000 tonnes a year. This is the same amount of carbon emissions generated annually by more than 391,000 new cars in Sydney.”
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NSW Environment Minister Penny Sharpe said the government was committed to legislating the state’s targets to reach net-zero by 2050, and to halve emissions by 2030.

She had also previously said she wanted to establish a net-zero commission.

The commission will develop the government’s plan to get to net-zero emissions by 2050. It will monitor and review the plan and its trajectory, including impacts on jobs and industry, as well as energy prices. Lastly, she aims to establish an energy security corporation, a publicly owned company that will accelerate renewable energy production.

[Swift]

Electronic buses and now this. What next trains on batteries?
That's the problem. The mental pygmies pushing this agenda head long don't think about the making as well as disposing of the ever increased batteries and getting the rare minerals required. But they're just so stupid!

[tonyp]

New Zealand eh.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/n ... rs-rescued

[Linto63]

...which have served the Parramatta River route since 1992. The older ferries have been plagued with issues, including asbestos in the boats and not being able to fit under some bridges with passengers on the top deck.

Bit of poor fact checking by the Herald, the 1992 vessels have no top deck, it is the River class ferries purchased in the past few years that have decks that needs to be vacated.

New Zealand eh.

If we wrote off everything that had teething troubles, then we would still be getting around with the horse and cart.

[Swift]

New Zealand eh.

If we wrote off everything that had teething troubles, then we would still be getting around with the horse and cart.

It's not the teething troubles, it's the battery waste problem and the volatility of packing to much reserve power into the cells to power such heavy equipment that has gargantuan power draw. They may as well be nuclear powered.

[alleve]

Electronic buses and now this. What next trains on batteries?

Hate to break it to you but trains are already electric and don't run on batteries

[Swift]

Electronic buses and now this. What next trains on batteries?

Hate to break it to you but trains are already electric and don't run on batteries

Yes and electric buses should be drawing power from the grid like trains do.

[Linto63]

Hate to break it to you but trains are already electric and don't run on batteries

Alstom, Hitachi, Siemens and Stadler have or are in the process of developing battery trains.

[moa999]

All a function of distance though.

Electric ferries work great in the Nordics where youve got a short route and a long disembark and boarding process (given car ferries).

Much harder on your Sydney ferry routes that are much longer and have minimal time for charging.

Auckland seems looking to only use it on their shortest Hobbonsville Point service (maybe 10km max).

[Fleet Lists]

https://transportnsw.info/news/2023/hun ... ily-closed

Hunters Hill Wharf temporarily closed
Friday 28 July 2023

For safety reasons, Hunters Hill Wharf on Alexandra Street has been temporarily closed until further notice.

After an inspection of the wharf on Thursday 27 July, Transport for NSW has engaged a contractor to carry out repairs on a wharf pile.

Privately operated Lane Cove and School service ferries will not use this wharf.

To assist passengers, the Lane Cove Ferry Service is temporarily adding an additional stop at Woolwich Wharf.

Please use the Trip Planner to find nearby alternatives.

[Fleet Lists]

https://transportnsw.info/news/2023/par ... ry-closure

Parramatta Wharf Temporary Closure
Tuesday 08 August 2023

The F3 Parramatta River Ferry service will not run between Rydalmere Wharf and Parramatta Wharf, from Monday 4 to Friday 15 September 2023, while construction is undertaken by City of Parramatta on the Gasworks Bridge.

A replacement bus service Route 60F3 will run between Parramatta Wharf and Rydalmere Wharf. From there, you can continue your journey on the ferry.

If you’re heading to Circular Quay, you can catch the T1 Western Line train towards the City from Parramatta Station.

Use the Trip Planner to plan your trip and check alerts for further information and updates on the closure.

[Linto63]

Having previously been operated by Busways, CDC and Transdev, route 60F3 was being operated out by Transit Systems region 3 last week. In a glimpse into the future, ok probably the very distant future, no Freshwaters are operating on the Manly service this week while work is carried out at wharf 3 at Circular Quay.

[Linto63]

Queenscliff now scheduled to return in November, Narrabeen in mid-2024.

Demand for ferry trips surges but do we have enough vessels for summer? (Sydney Morning Herald)

[Fleet Lists]

https://transportnsw.info/news/2023/opa ... fast-ferry

Opal comes to Manly Fast Ferry
From Sunday 1 October the Manly to Circular Quay Manly Fast Ferry service will see fares fall to the same single-journey price as the F1 Ferry service, and the same array of Opal benefits offered across the Opal network will kick-in.

The 20-minute Manly Fast Ferry ride will be bundled into the daily and weekly transport caps, with discounts applied when transferring between multiple modes of public transport under the Opal Transfer Discount.

The change means more than 700 NRMA-operated Manly Fast Ferry services a week will be accessible under Opal fares, opening up choice, service frequency, and travel rewards for passengers.

As part of the Opal integration, new ticketing gates for the Manly Fast Ferry service are being installed at Manly wharf 2 and Circular Quay wharf 2A.

Once in place, passengers will be able to use their opal card, contactless card, or digital device to tap on and tap off the Manly Fast Ferry service.

You will need to continue to tap on at the Manly Fast Ferry payment terminal, until Opal gates go live on Sunday 1 October.
Current Manly Fast Ferry fare/with SmartCard discount Opal Ferry Fare Opal Daily Travel Cap* Opal Weekly Travel Cap* Opal Weekend Daily Travel Cap*
Adult $10.20/$8.16 $8.04 $16.80 $50 $8.40
Student/Concession $6.10/$6.10 $4.02 $8.40 $25 $4.20
Senior/Pensioner $10.20/$8.16 $2.50 $2.50 N/A $2.50

*Opal Travel Caps apply across all metro, train, bus, ferry and light rail services.

Looks better than I had expected. This could ultimately be the end of the normal Manly Ferry service.

[tonyp]

Looks better than I had expected. This could ultimately be the end of the normal Manly Ferry service.

I suspect that's what they're aiming to do. If so, they should give the Emeralds to MFF to use so that commuters have a higher-capacity, more spacious ferry to use.