Railway Observations for 2022.

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Ray wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:52 pm Accents a separate issue which has been around for at least 30 years. The more noticeable trend now is the proliferation of professionally recorded announcements throughout the trip. On London buses, you get an announcement for every single stop, even on an all stops service. Yet to see this here.
TSA has recorded announcements for every stop on selected routes (e.g. 431, 433) on some of their Gemiliang buses.
Don't think it will be done for every route, nor is it that necessary.
Would be nice to have the next stop display work for every route though.
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It's not separate at all. Completely relevant.
It's no good if they say dis tlain vill be stoping at eppeeeing, first stop stlathfeeld den all steyshon eeewoo etc etc.
It's been a bugbear of mine for 30 years and I'll never apologise for it.
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Ray wrote: The more noticeable trend now is the proliferation of professionally recorded announcements throughout the trip.
It's these that there has been a fresh batch of 'do this and don't do that' that have been introduced recently, always the same message at exactly the same place.
Swift wrote: It's no good if they say dis tlain vill be stoping at eppeeeing, first stop stlathfeeld den all steyshon eeewoo etc etc.
So what do you suggest be done. Bring back the White Australia Policy?
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Linto63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 pm
So what do you suggest be done. Bring back the White Australia Policy?
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That's jumping to a very extreme conclusion, not unlike a former member here with obvious left wing proclivities who said well excuse them if they don't sound like the old newsreel narrators. Goodness me.
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Linto63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 pm It's these that there has been a fresh batch of 'do this and don't do that' that have been introduced recently, always the same message at exactly the same place.
Every station in Brisbane yields a "Now arriving at X Station, if this is your station, prepare to disembark. Customers are reminded, the exit buttons are located in the middle of the doors", then "X Station. Mind the Gap". Most of that is a needless barrage of information that is wasted on a majority of passengers who are either "plugged in" (earbuds) or don't pay attention anyway. If you need reminding about a gap at every station along the full length of a line, you're obviously not paying enough attention...
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Glen wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:46 pm I think Sydney is the most over announced system I've ever travelled on.
Perhaps I should have made it clearer, I was referring to the repetitive "do this don't do that" announcements, not the useful ones about next stop etc.
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Swift wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:07 pm Take classes, I don't care as long as I can easily understand what on hell they're announcing, otherwise find another position.
Good diction is part of the job requirements. And I gather new guards do get some voice coaching as part of their training as some are really really good, and obviously took their voice coaching training seriously.

There is no excuse for someone qualifying as a guard who can't make clear announcements. What if they have to deal with an emergency and give clear instructions to a load of panicky passengers?
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matthewg wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:16 am
Swift wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:07 pm Take classes, I don't care as long as I can easily understand what on hell they're announcing, otherwise find another position.
Good diction is part of the job requirements. And I gather new guards do get some voice coaching as part of their training as some are really really good, and obviously took their voice coaching training seriously.

There is no excuse for someone qualifying as a guard who can't make clear announcements. What if they have to deal with an emergency and give clear instructions to a load of panicky passengers?

Exactly.
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Linto63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 pm So what do you suggest be done. Bring back the White Australia Policy?
That would not keep out the Scots, who are the most incomprehensible of all, especially from Glasgow.
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tonyp wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:18 pm
Linto63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 pm So what do you suggest be done. Bring back the White Australia Policy?
That would not keep put the Scots, who are the most incomprehensible of all, especially from Glasgow.
Or some old school Londoners with a thick cockney accent. There was one at my bus depot who I struggled to understand. In fact there have been the odd local who I've had awkward chats with.
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I've been doing some investigating into why the 12:51pm T5 service from Schofields and the return 2:33pm T5 service from Leppington is a Waratah and that reason is because T1 roster 160 whitch is rostered as a Waratah turns into T5 roster 560 between 9:42am and 3:43pm that's according to the info that Anytrip shows
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:06 pm I've been doing some investigating into why the 12:51pm T5 service from Schofields and the return 2:33pm T5 service from Leppington is a Waratah and that reason is because T1 roster 160 whitch is rostered as a Waratah turns into T5 roster 560 between 9:42am and 3:43pm that's according to the info that Anytrip shows
There's a few trains that do that daily. There's trains that alternate between T1 Schofields in the peak and T5 at other times, using run numbers 1xyz and 5xyz respectively, and trains that come off the T2 at Leppington at night and join the T5, switching from run numbers xy-z to 5xy-z.
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A32 is one stop out on its destinations think its at Emu Plains when it's at Penrith would this be a GPS error or something entered wrong on a display?

There was a 3? carriage freight through Penrith Eastbound which seems awfully short was hauled by 8127 also the 6 car frieght that was trapped at Penrith station has finally been removed having been there the past 10 or so days.
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I've been to Penrith station twice this last week and haven't noticed any freight trains "trapped" there.
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Why do they call it Emu plains? Loaded with emus?
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They planned on building storage yards for EMUs there a few years back.
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Surely that's not what they named it after.
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Swift wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:38 pm Surely that's not what they named it after.
It was named by Captain Watkin Tench in 1789 because he observed large flocks of Electric Multiple Units wandering around there.
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They're the only ones I've seen there, so that MUST be it!
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It only took 6 years, but the indicator board for 'the next train does not stop' has finally been updated so you can actually see the services after the not stopping train. It used to take up the whole screen so you couldn't see when the next service would be arriving.
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Something that should take a day at most. Got to love NSW. I refuse to.
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Major breakthrough in Sydney’s long-running rail dispute

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/maj ... 5c1f7.html
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two months truce
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Here's a railway observation for 1994 I came across. Derailment at Central.
https://youtu.be/sSrxZWT-RTY
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boxythingy wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:02 am two months truce
Why two months?
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