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I suggested Japanese overnight container trains here and got 5 likes.

How the US dominates freight rail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q79BHfxfaSI&t=8s
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It has me beat that Facebook and Bitcoin can lose so much money but something that connects Sydney to Melbourne, removes many B doubles and 5,000,000 tonne of jet fuel per year while making a small profit is regarded as too expensive at $60b
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After seeing how big the Melbourne Mainfreight depot is with so many sixwheel curtainsiders I doubt they or any other freight depots would move but perhaps there would still be sufficient income from the overnight Japanese container maglev from those who want their freight for delivery the very next morning to still make it economically viable especially if the container is taken straight from the sender to the reciever from the freight sidings.
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After I explained it to Steve he said he is looking forward to riding on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q79BHfxfaSI&t=13s
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On the ABC drum tonight they say the main reason Australia is a tad slow with climate change is the two main parties cannot agree on what to do.
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Even if the fuel cost nothing it would still be cheaper and faster than trucks.
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eddy wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:49 pm On the ABC drum tonight they say the main reason Australia is a tad slow with climate change is the two main parties cannot agree on what to do.
You also need to take into account the amount of money which is given to political parties as bribes by the fossil fuel industry. Those bribes, which reach into the millions, contribute significantly to our lack of progress on climate action.

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See they want to upgrade the Gundagai bridge for bigger trucks https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-29/ ... /100946848

May be smarter to build the faster and cheaper Sydney to Melbourne overnight maglev container train revenue making the daytime fares less than a plane while connecting Canberra and Albury.
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Now TBM are so fast 20 of them would drive Parrahub to Canberra in a couple of years. https://tunnellingjournal.com/record-tb ... se-tunnel/ and perhaps in that time the Japanese maglev may be even better with so much research going on https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 154834.htm
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After all the floods perhaps all political parties would be more interested in saving 5,000,000 tonne of jet fuel p/a and most of the 700,000 B doubles (soon to be A doubles) especially as the global warming report has just been released.
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Perhaps if Scott Morrison announced the Sydney to Canberra Japanese maglev to transition unemployed coal miners to TBM operators they may ensure winning the next election.
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How great would it be to just hop on a train that cannot fall out of the sky without all the checking in to get between Sydney and Melbourne.
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The biggest problem with a maglev train connecting Sydney to Melbourne is the cost.

The next problem is opposition from people who do not want it going through their farm.

Then you have others who want a 700 km/h train to stop at everybody's station.

So if it is in a single tunnel and earns $1,000,000 per night with overnight container trains to subsidise daytime fares it would save 5,000,000 tonne of jet fuel per year and reduce the 700,000 trucks on the Hume.

If anyone can see any problem please speak up so I can try to address it.

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It occurred to me on the South coast line train that it took the same time with the same cost and benefits as the Sydney, Canberra, Albury to Melbourne 700km/h maglev train.
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The Governor On 6 April 1881 assented to Act 44 Vic. No. 28, which provided £1,020,000 for the construction of the South Coast Line and I it would have saved hundreds of horse and carts like Sydney to Melbourne will save hundreds of trucks.

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I wonder if we would have it now or would we still be kicking it down the road ?
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We would never get any of our big railways built now for such stupid reasons like "but what about the cost!! what about the noise for construction!!! it will ruin the neighborhood!!!!", just the "cheems mindset" in action. Had it not been for the 1890s land boom we would just be living in a never ending car dependant suburb.
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If it can be done from Sydney to Melbourne for $60,000,000,000 and returns $2,000,000 per night replacing hundreds of trucks and planes with a daytime fare saving 5,000,000 tonnes of jet fuel per year perhaps someone with deep pockets may invest.
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Unless a maglev can take overnight containers between Sydney and Melbourne it does not stack up economically so to develop an international standard train from cooperation with Japan and China I am sure Australia will benefit.

Like the proposed Devils gate dam which will only be economically viable in 50 years, so too would be this maglev both having huge initial cost but little effect from inflation or fuel costs.

If it only makes 10% profit it should be definitely looked by NSW, ACT and Victoria with the fed going dollar for dollar.
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To give a return on investment of 10% freight has to get between Sydney and Melbourne 8 hours faster than trucks for delivery first thing and by going a tad faster we will be stuck with trucks and planes on that route forever. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rad ... 5akev.html

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Parrahub has its own thread and should NOT be here. This has been reported by other members.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 11:53 am Parrahub has its own thread and should NOT be here. This has been reported by other members.
Perhaps the other members should know that the Parrahub station is integral to the Sydney/Melbourne 700 km/h maglev.

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I would welcome any objections to it here or by pm so I can address any problems.
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If these two subjects are integrated, let us change the subject to Parrahub and Sydney to Melbourne Maglev via Canberra so hat there is no longer any confusion on this subject.
The previous Parrahub thread has been locked.
This now raises the matter of the section it should be in.
My opinion is that it should be Armchair Operators & Fantasy Networks where previous Parrahub threads have been.
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Frankly, I don't see an issue with where the thread is placed, General Discussion or Fantasy, do what fits the bill best in your opinion.
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Merc1107 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:15 pm Frankly, I don't see an issue with where the thread is placed, General Discussion or Fantasy, do what fits the bill best in your opinion.
Well there are over 37,000 people who looked at it and nobody ever looks in the fantasy section.

Obviously you have a big problem with it so what is the problem ?
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eddy wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:53 pm
Merc1107 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:15 pm Frankly, I don't see an issue with where the thread is placed, General Discussion or Fantasy, do what fits the bill best in your opinion.
Well there are over 37,000 people who looked at it and nobody ever looks in the fantasy section.

Obviously you have a big problem with it so what is the problem ?
Not sure how you could possibly come to that conclusion from what I wrote.

As a matter of fact, I've no gripes with the Parrahub/Maglev topic, especially when discussion is contained within the respective thread(s). If people don't like these topics, there's a wonderful little feature on this forum that lets one mark posts as read without even having to look at a thread's content.
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Fleet Lists wrote: My opinion is that it should be Armchair Operators & Fantasy Networks where previous Parrahub threads have been. What do members think?
Agree, it's a pipe dream.
eddy wrote: Well there are over 37,000 people who looked at it and nobody ever looks in the fantasy section.
It's had 37,000 views, not been viewed by 37,000 different people.
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