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Evidently some economists think a surplus is not very good so perhaps we should buy the 60 double shield hardrock TBM off China and balance our trade surplus with them to get them to settle down for a couple of years.

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/the- ... 906-p58p7s
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With the centre shops covering all fees investors would be able to charge $2,000 per week for the four large ensuit bedroom units to a few friends because of all the parking, shops, transport and services returning 5% p/a on the $2m Parrahub unit.
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eddy wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:33 am With the centre shops covering all fees investors would be able to charge $2,000 per week for the four large ensuit bedroom units to a few friends because of all the parking, shops, transport and services returning 5% p/a on the $2m Parrahub unit.
$112,000.00 a year to rent a unit?
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Frances wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:28 am
eddy wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:33 am With the centre shops covering all fees investors would be able to charge $2,000 per week for the four large ensuit bedroom units to a few friends because of all the parking, shops, transport and services returning 5% p/a on the $2m Parrahub unit.
$112,000.00 a year to rent a unit?

To pay existing residents sufficient that they would be happy to sell their homes on the site while ensuring we do not have another Sydney Opera House underestimate by over 14 times the cost and to make sure everyone gets paid for their work I guessed $10b to build Parrahub.

However with economy of scale it may only cost half that but because it has never been done before it is hard to estimate and there needs to be some way to recompense investors in the units and I have thought perhaps a free swimming pool, gym, library but that is for them to decide.

There are units for rent for that much in Sydney which are not as good as a Parrahub unit but remember what may seem a lot to you and me is not much to billionaires.
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Perhaps in the two years it takes to drive Parrahub to Melbourne they may crack the high temperature super cooled magnets making the overnight container train even more profitable.

China has been claiming higher temperature super cooled magnet for a few years and I tend to believe them as they have been working on rare earths since WW2 but it would be too expensive to build and maintain with one centimeter clearance as shown at the end of this long video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUczYHyOhLM
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eddy wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:51 amThere are units for rent for that much in Sydney which are not as good as a Parrahub unit but remember what may seem a lot to you and me is not much to billionaires.
Not in Parramatta though, I think. We own a property in Parramatta that we rent out, admittedly 2 rather than 4 bedrooms, but it is rented out for an awful lot less per week.......
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Frances wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:08 pm
eddy wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:51 amThere are units for rent for that much in Sydney which are not as good as a Parrahub unit but remember what may seem a lot to you and me is not much to billionaires.
Not in Parramatta though, I think. We own a property in Parramatta that we rent out, admittedly 2 rather than 4 bedrooms, but it is rented out for an awful lot less per week.......
Some people think being connected to everywhere with more parking and more bathrooms while having all services would be worth it but others would not.

As I said before as it has never been built before I am only guessing between $5b to $10b and I think with economy of scale closer to the lower end but the most important thing is people who have to move from their homes get twice the value and every body gets paid for their work.

Like any investment there is risk involved but any cost saving would be reimbursed to investors with cash or extra services like swimming pools etc. and the body corporate will decide.

But that is just my opinion and many would not agree with it Frances
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I'm sorry, but I just can't see a four bedroom unit in Sydney's west, no matter how well connected, would be worth the sort of money you are suggesting. I would think that anything over $1.2m would be unrealistically optimistic.
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Frances wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:30 pm I'm sorry, but I just can't see a four bedroom unit in Sydney's west, no matter how well connected, would be worth the sort of money you are suggesting. I would think that anything over $1.2m would be unrealistically optimistic.

Thanks for your expertise and the most important things to me were that residents were happy to move from the site and that everybody got paid for the work they had done.

I tend to agree with you on the initial worth of the Parrahub unit which would double as soon as it is connected to Canberra, Albury and Melbourne with a 700 km/h train.

$5b to $10b was a wild guess based on an underground parking space being worth at most $100,000 per car space so 20,000 would be worth $2b for 30 floors and I just added on the extra floors.

Do not forget it is fee free and may also be a ticket to Australia and some people prefer time saving to a view.

Nobody has taken a guess at what Parrahub would cost to build here. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/ ... -184835825
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After watching this video it is imperative that as well as being earthquake proof it is built to last at least 100 years like our bridges and tunnels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4

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The Parrahub building would have to be made to be earthquake proof and built to last 200 years with little maintenance so the design alone could be very expensive.

With this in mind it may be good to use the same plan for Hornsby as it is directly in line to Newcastle etc. and only fifteen kilometers away with the station not much higher than Parrahub when Brisbane is connected later.
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Saw a post office guy on television say he will do next day delivery in major cities and there is no way he can do that with trucks so it will be very interesting.
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Catch up Eddy. People have been transporting mail by air for over 100 years now in everything from Zeppelins to A380s.
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1whoknows wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:28 am Catch up Eddy. People have been transporting mail by air for over 100 years now in everything from Zeppelins to A380s.
The way the post office guy was talking on the TV I thought it was something new mate.
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China is down on its knees economically which will cost Australia with lost exports and we could balance our trade with them over two years by buying the 60 duel shield hardrock TBM to drive Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury.

These 60 FIFO East Timorese teams would be happy living in the 30 launch shaft compounds in shipping containers making $5,000 for two weeks or when they drive 200 metres completing the 600 kilometers in two years.

Once driven a Japanese SC maglev can be installed which would make a profit of $2m per night with overnight container trains reducing daytime fares below planes.

Britain sold them Opium and before WW2 Japan attacked them and now they are as afraid of a blockade as we are worried about freedom of shipping so we can either help them which helps us with them settling down or we can buy a very expensive submarine.
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After watching how we all kill ourselves here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7A9b4EEGfQ i do not think one sub will make much difference.

I think it would be a lot cheaper to have a few rockets in case and spend the money on connecting Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury.

We need as many freinds as possible north of Australia.
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Linfox wants to put more pallatised freight in containers on A doubles but they would never beat the Japanese SC overnight container trains in speed or price.

https://primemovermag.com.au/linfox-unv ... -a-double/
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Unfortunately I cannot remember who I heard on the radio but when Bob Hawke got in he reduced tariffs to make the car industry more competitive which the voters liked, but when industry moved overseas they wanted to reinstate them but that would lose a lot of votes so they decided on the anti dumping laws which would not upset the voters.

Now we take countries to the ITO if they can make a product cheaper but as Australia sells twice as much to China as they buy off us all we have to do is buy the 60 high tech TBM off them and they will buy our product and free some people who are locked up.

Sure beats us building a nuclear submarine to threaten a blockade while connecting Sydney to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury with a profitable Japanese SC maglev in just a few years that will make Australia far cleaner and more productive.
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After watching how many university graduates cannot get a job in China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VP94l9VTzM it made me think how cheap the 60 TBM would be while lifting the Australian dollar with China being back on track.
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After listening to this guy I think there will not be many electric trucks doing interstate, rather they will just take the container from the Japanese SC maglev freight siding to the customer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Gi0vObVSo
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Although the ground is soft at Snowy 2 as a layman with a great interest in TBM I cannot understand why they went like a bull at a gate rather than probing ahead and stabilizing it before they tried driving it.

Was the TBM pilot inexperienced because from what I have seen and read it was capable of probing ahead and grouting where needed and they generally start slow anyway until they get the hang.

It makes Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury look impossible to drive in two years even though it is easy hard rock.
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If 30 separate companies spend $2b each to connect Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury then I believe it would be fair they do not pay any tax until they earn a certain amount per annum but it would be up to the federal government how much that would be to encourage investment.

By having two teams of FIFO East Timorese getting paid $5,000 per fortnight or when they achieve 200 m driving in different directions and living in shipping containers at the launch site compound it will remove trucks and planes between Sydney and Melbourne in a few years.

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This is my 5 cents on when they should pay tax.

Because the Japanese SC maglev has nothing touching that needs maintenance it is free from inflation like trucks and planes so by undercutting them a tad in time it would earn 10% p/a of the initial $2b they invested and would start to pay tax.
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I watch this guy a lot and he says who knows what will happen with diesel price in the future.
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What if Mark is right and the farmers/greens will not allow power lines above ground.
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What's wrong with putting power lines underground?
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Frances wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:42 am What's wrong with putting power lines underground?
From what I heard it costs 4 times as much and then greenies/farmers will object to something.

Greens think money grows on trees and they want zero polution but not any inconvenience but they have their place in a democracy like the hawks and doves.
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