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Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:14 pm
by Enviro 500
Campbelltown busboy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:55 pm
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has got to the stage now where Russia is telling NATO when it comes to Ukraine “ether back off or we will start firing nukes” it wouldn’t surprise anyone if Russia has threatened to use nukes if NATO dares get involved in the Ukraine conflict
The last thing the world wants is a nuclear war. The closest we ever came to that was in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:27 pm
by Swift
Enviro 500 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:14 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:55 pm
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has got to the stage now where Russia is telling NATO when it comes to Ukraine “ether back off or we will start firing nukes” it wouldn’t surprise anyone if Russia has threatened to use nukes if NATO dares get involved in the Ukraine conflict
The last thing the world wants is a nuclear war. The closest we ever came to that was in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And the potential for the reverse situation of U.S nukes in Russia's neighborhood beckons. Funny how the U.S applies different standards to somebody else when it comes to them potentially basing their nukes near Russia.
If Ukraine hadn't refused to commit to remaining neutral and the idiots in the EU hadn't refused to pledge not to have Ukraine in NATO, this wouldn't be happening. If Donald Trump hadn't been robbed and cheated out of the election and was rightfully still in the oval office, this certainly wouldn't be happening.
GUARA-#UCKING-TEED.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:54 pm
by Enviro 500
As a sovereign nation, Ukraine should be allowed to decide which alliance it wants to join. This is only making Moscow look bad, hence the sanctions imposed on them. The only problem is Russia supplies most of Europe's gas.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:33 am
by eddy
Shame people did not do what I suggested when I suggested it.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:27 pm
by Fleet Lists
And what would that have been?
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:33 pm
by eddy
Fleet Lists wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:27 pm
And what would that have been?
If you click on the link and read more of what I wrote it is my commonsense solution mate.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:56 pm
by Fleet Lists
I have done a search for Eddy and cant find anything/
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:09 pm
by eddy
Fleet Lists wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:56 pm
I have done a search for Eddy and cant find anything/
It is the most popular comment on this video but you need to read more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z34pnK2l3pw
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:12 pm
by eddy
Here is a poor Russian girl who only just discovered the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJplFVLQ85M
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:15 pm
by eddy
While I agree that Zelensky is brave his wife may be disappointed with feeding children in the world especially in the poorer countries also Putin's war will cost everybody worldwide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTiZzYANgYs
I believe he overestimated US appetite for getting drawn into another war.
Maybe the Russian speakers should have been allowed to secede
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2014 ... e-country/
Germany should turn on Nord2 and spend the increased defence spending on greening Germany.
Russian speakers who want to secede from Ukraine should be allowed to with a vote.
Ukraine should concentrate on rebuilding their country.
If Putin wants to run Russia like the USSR it will fall down the same way as the USSR
Just my five cents rant.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:28 pm
by eddy
After watching Clive Palmer on ABC, though I disagree with his virus attitude and he never paid the workers at Townsville I like the fact that he wants to use some super in Australia, limit interest on house loans to 3% to keep people in their homes while putting a tax on exported minerals to get back in the black I think I will give him a go something I never thought I would do.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:23 am
by Enviro 500
eddy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:28 pm
After watching Clive Palmer on ABC, though I disagree with his virus attitude and he never paid the workers at Townsville I like the fact that he wants to use some super in Australia, limit interest on house loans to 3% to keep people in their homes while putting a tax on exported minerals to get back in the black I think I will give him a go something I never thought I would do.
His attempt to sue the WA government over border closures is a big turn off for me. It is thanks to Mark McGowan that we haven't had any curfews imposed on us unlike our counterparts in Melbourne and Sydney. Even in our worst day our case numbers are nothing like that over East.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:17 am
by Campbelltown busboy
Get ready for election night where everyone declares a seat at different times
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:11 am
by ScaniaGrenda
I usually don't get involved in political threads for numerous reasons (I'm here for Transportation & Buses, not politics) but Palmer & Co (The guy that shall be called "Kelly") are a bunch of snake oil salesman to put it that way. In remembering that this is the very same billionaire Palmer that as you said failed to pay his workers and I'll add mass spams the living daylights out of everyone's mobile numbers (who also says to put a stop to it if elected but I'll spoil it that it simply won't happen). Not sure why anyone would be keen on still wanting to vote for him given the numerous other major controversies he is surrounded with.
Palmer has avoided paying the Nickle miners for the mining operation he ran but has plenty of left over cash to waste on those useless yellow propaganda billboards & Youtube advertisements. There was the recent controversy that he went & purchased a historical vehicle from a Russian oligarch while there was mass sanctions being placed on Russia because of what they were doing to Ukraine. Also about his anti-vax stance, I'm 100% certain it is another snake move from Palmer that he is anti-vax this and that to gain voters from those whose views align with him. He most definitely would've been first in line to receive the vaccination.
Major restrictions have been eased in numerous states here for ages now & yet he's still running on a very outdated objective, not a very bright way to campaign but he is our version of Trump so I didn't really expect to see common sense to come into play.
Before I possibly deal with responses I'll receive for what I have said, I'm just wanting to say I'm not stopping anyone from voting who they want, it is a free country here and you vote for who you want to vote for. I am just wanting to point out that Palmer isn't really the greenest (as in positive) politician one could vote for.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:35 am
by Enviro 500
ScaniaGrenda wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:11 am
I usually don't get involved in political threads for numerous reasons (I'm here for Transportation & Buses, not politics) but Palmer & Co (The guy that shall be called "Kelly") are a bunch of snake oil salesman to put it that way. In remembering that this is the very same billionaire Palmer that as you said failed to pay his workers and I'll add mass spams the living daylights out of everyone's mobile numbers (who also says to put a stop to it if elected but I'll spoil it that it simply won't happen). Not sure why anyone would be keen on still wanting to vote for him given the numerous other major controversies he is surrounded with.
Palmer has avoided paying the Nickle miners for the mining operation he ran but has plenty of left over cash to waste on those useless yellow propaganda billboards & Youtube advertisements. There was the recent controversy that he went & purchased a historical vehicle from a Russian oligarch while there was mass sanctions being placed on Russia because of what they were doing to Ukraine. Also about his anti-vax stance, I'm 100% certain it is another snake move from Palmer that he is anti-vax this and that to gain voters from those whose views align with him. He most definitely would've been first in line to receive the vaccination.
Major restrictions have been eased in numerous states here for ages now & yet he's still running on a very outdated objective, not a very bright way to campaign but he is our version of Trump so I didn't really expect to see common sense to come into play.
Before I possibly deal with responses I'll receive for what I have said, I'm just wanting to say I'm not stopping anyone from voting who they want, it is a free country here and you vote for who you want to vote for. I am just wanting to point out that Palmer isn't really the greenest (as in positive) politician one could vote for.
The thing is UAP candidates tend to give preferences to the Coalition, resulting in a meme that says Clive Palmer is Scummo's sugar daddy.
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Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:46 am
by ScaniaGrenda
Well of course, what major party besides the Greens & ALP doesn't?
Anyway not too sure what the voting population really expects Palmer to do if he was elected, if he couldn't pay the miners and sprouts on the way he does, what on this green earth does he have any hope of running the country besides making us look more ridiculous than when Scott was behind the wheel? Pretty much why I pretty much summed him up as a snake oil salesman, I don't like a few of the other parties either (Won't name which because as I said I'm not here for politics) but they are somewhat better than ULP.
All I want is to have a political party that won't whinge about things the opposition didn't do right 10-15 years ago when the current party has been in power for the last 10 years and get on with the job, that's one of the many reasons your elected, run the country, not whinge every two minutes. 10 year old's could probably run the government better than the current mob in power.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:22 am
by Merc1107
ScaniaGrenda wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:46 am All I want is to have a political party that won't whinge about things the opposition didn't do right 10-15 years ago when the current party has been in power for the last 10 years and get on with the job, that's one of the many reasons your elected, run the country, not whinge every two minutes.
If only... Alas it is not the case. I don't think there is a Government in this country that hasn't pointed the finger at their predecessors at some point. If it's someone else's fault, fine, but the problem needs fixing, not arguments of whose fault it was...
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:12 pm
by Swift
Liberals are specialists at that. Even in their second term it's "well the previous Labor government...."
Their smug and virtuous stance as though it's morally correct for the LNP to be in power is nauseating.
Simon Birmingham is the worst in doing that.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:40 pm
by Merc1107
The ALP in both WA and the NT are both excellent at deflecting blame to their Liberal predecessors too.
Take McGowan, who assumed a few transport projects when taking the reigns as Premier in 2017 and incorporated them into the "Metronet" umbrella. Next thing, we have tunnels collapsing (killing workers), safety debacles and suddenly an about face excuse, "they're not really Metronet projects, we just took the reigns from the previous Government who signed those contracts." People dying, but it's someone else's fault.
I trust none of them.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:14 pm
by Swift
They're really as bad as each other, bit I favour Labor's more socially conscious approach even though it's smoke and mirrors.
The Libs are just shamelessly pro rich these days.
They used to be more socially conscious. Both have become economically more right wing.
What I deeply dislike is Labor being dragged toward the far left when it comes to social policies, by the Greens.
They need to cut ties with them.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:50 am
by eddy
It is funny how One nation and the United Australia party are not team players and in my opinion SCOMO is loyal to a fault but he crossed the line paying some woman $500,000 to keep silent.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:39 pm
by Enviro 500
Swift wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:14 pm
What I deeply dislike is Labor being dragged toward the far left when it comes to social policies, by the Greens.
They need to cut ties with them.
As if the social policies put forward by LNP, ONP and UAP are perfect. They are the worst.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:59 pm
by Swift
Enviro 500 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:39 pm
Swift wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:14 pm
What I deeply dislike is Labor being dragged toward the far left when it comes to social policies, by the Greens.
They need to cut ties with them.
As if the social policies put forward by LNP, ONP and UAP are perfect. They are the worst.
So it's ok to have Labor's woeful more destructive one in that basis?
This trolling of a city council meeting in America gives an insight to what Labor would like to do.
https://youtu.be/ruig2Plu-HI
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:55 pm
by Enviro 500
Merc1107 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:40 pm
The ALP in both WA and the NT are both excellent at deflecting blame to their Liberal predecessors too.
Take McGowan, who assumed a few transport projects when taking the reigns as Premier in 2017 and incorporated them into the "Metronet" umbrella. Next thing, we have tunnels collapsing (killing workers), safety debacles and suddenly an about face excuse, "they're not really Metronet projects, we just took the reigns from the previous Government who signed those contracts." People dying, but it's someone else's fault.
I trust none of them.
Well, they died on McGowan's watch, so he is ultimately responsible.
Re: Political discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 pm
by Enviro 500
Swift wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:39 pm
As if the social policies put forward by LNP, ONP and UAP are perfect. They are the worst.
So it's ok to have Labor's woeful more destructive one in that basis?
This trolling of a city council meeting in America gives an insight to what Labor would like to do.
https://youtu.be/ruig2Plu-HI
ALP and LNP are essentially two sides of one coin. Both are no better than the other. That being said, LNP social policies are designed for maximum benefit of the big end of town, ie the rich and corrupt 1% elites who are enemies of the people. If you have never been on the dole in your life, you won't understand where I'm coming from.