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Only a pipe dream because we choose it to be.
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No it is not -if it was not a pipe dream there would have to be definite plans for it which there are not.
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flitter wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 2:15 pm The whole speculative ‘tunnelling from sydney to Melbourne’ epic seems to need its own topic too.

It speaks volumes about the current HSR investigation that there’s virtually nothing being posted in this thread recently that’s more than a pipe dream (excuse the pun) :-(
Fleet Lists does have a point so I will only post on here viewtopic.php?t=91472&start=250
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Here we go again:

‘Radically faster’: Parramatta at centre of NSW’s high-speed rail future

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rad ... p5akev.htm
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Circle jerk comes to mind. I refuse to read that recycled junk.
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Gees is the SMH now supporting Parrahub?!?!?!?!?! LOL
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I hope not.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 8:23 am I hope not.
I agree it would not suit most people but those older single people with freestanding homes may want to upgrade to a huge maintenance free Parrahub unit where they can have friends, grandchildren or even rent out a couple of rooms for extra cash.

It would not only put many family homes on the market but would provide all services and transport at the push of a button as well as providing a maglev station to Canberra, Albury and Melbourne with 20,000 parking spaces.
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Sounds good.
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eddy wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 11:04 am
Fleet Lists wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 8:23 am I hope not.
I agree it would not suit most people but those older single people with freestanding homes may want to upgrade to a huge maintenance free Parrahub unit where they can have friends, grandchildren or even rent out a couple of rooms for extra cash.

It would not only put many family homes on the market but would provide all services and transport at the push of a button as well as providing a maglev station to Canberra, Albury and Melbourne with 20,000 parking spaces.
But this latest proposal goes nowhere near Canberra, Albury or Melbourne.
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Stokes showing his ignorance, St Pancras station is on the fringe of the London CBD, not miles away from it like Parramatta. Surprisingly High Speed Rail AFAIK hasn't been wheeled in the federal election campaign. Maybe they have figured that the electorate have woken up to the the fact they have no intention of actually doing anything.
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But how long does it take to get from St Pancras to Bank (the centre of the city) on the tube? 15+ minutes depending on route, not much better than Parramatta to Hunter Street on Metro West.
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Linto63 wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 12:55 pm Surprisingly High Speed Rail AFAIK hasn't been wheeled in the federal election campaign. Maybe they have figured that the electorate have woken up to the the fact they have no intention of actually doing anything.
We can but hope. 35 years of it.
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grog wrote: But how long does it take to get from St Pancras to Bank (the centre of the city) on the tube? 15+ minutes depending on route, not much better than Parramatta to Hunter Street on Metro West.
St Pancras is to London like Central is to Sydney, on the border of the cbd. London has six zones radiating out from the cbd, St Pancras is in zone 1. If Sydney had 6 zones, Parramatta would be in zone 3. That it takes 15 minutes to travel three kilometres by tube is reflective of there being no direct service.
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Linto63 wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 12:55 pm Stokes showing his ignorance, St Pancras station is on the fringe of the London CBD, not miles away from it like Parramatta. Surprisingly High Speed Rail AFAIK hasn't been wheeled in the federal election campaign. Maybe they have figured that the electorate have woken up to the the fact they have no intention of actually doing anything.
Have you forgotten about that new 4 track bridge at Wyong? That's their contribution to "fast rail"at least.
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There's also the (former) second bridges at Cockle Creek, Gosford and I guess the Union Bridge if you're daring to go that far.
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Perrottet takes tips from Japan, but high-speed rail just a ‘dream’ for now

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/per ... 5b3zl.html
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I saw him and the transit minister on Nine news fawning over the shinkansen and the usual nauseating posturing and talking it up like it was really going to be built here.
They see it for themselves and go goo gah over it, but as soon as they return, it's nice and quiet again. Same ole.
The only good thing was an incredible scenic shot of the train I wish I had recorded on my PVR. :cry:
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A cab ride by our fearless leader has enlightened him to the fact that trains in a straight line can travel faster than those having to negotiate corners. Most of us worked that out at when we fell off our first ride on toy at speed aged 3.
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Or when our slot cars flew off the track when you tried going around at full speed!
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Liberals are only interested in cold hard economics, not fluff like centrifugal forces.
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Swift wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:54 pm Liberals are only interested in cold hard economics, not fluff like centrifugal forces.
It's the marginal propensity to travel in a straight line faster than around a curve :idea:
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First steps taken towards high speed rail

https://www.railexpress.com.au/first-st ... peed-rail/
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Nowhere in the world true HSR takes freight so you are stuck with trucks.
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The first priority of the Authority will be planning and corridor works for the Sydney to Newcastle section of the high-speed rail network, backed by a $500 million commitment from the Australian Government.
If I'm not mistaken, this money is for tweaks to the existing line around Wyong to separate freight from passenger services. Maybe working towards "fast rail" but would be nothing to do with a future HSR line?
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