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Oh, is THAT who it is?!
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I have an alert set up when an "Ozbus" model get's listed on Ebay an email is automatically sent to me. Ebay's wonderful intelligence has decided that instead they need to alert me when "Obus" items get listed which is clothing and nothing to do with bus models.

Here's the thing, the ebay application on my phone and email will say "x new items matching "Ozbus" clearly however you open both the email and alert to find out it's actually for something else with Obus in the title (omitting the Z) and nothing to do with Ozbus. It was quite up until about last week regarding these alerts, a few optimuses got listed (two of which I have, the other is already out of my price range).

On the topic of Ebay, their search keeps auto-fixing my search time "1/76 bus" after clicking on the second page of results so by the time I reach page two they remove the / and it gets reformatted as 176 bus bringing up all these weird parts & bobs nothing to do with scale models. I don't really buy models anymore unless there of interest to me but I do like looking and seeing what's on there besides seeing the same Trux models again and again.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:42 am

On the topic of Ebay, their search keeps auto-fixing my search time "1/76 bus" after clicking on the second page of results so by the time I reach page two they remove the / and it gets reformatted as 176 bus bringing up all these weird parts & bobs nothing to do with scale models. I don't really buy models anymore unless there of interest to me but I do like looking and seeing what's on there besides seeing the same Trux models again and again.
What I despise to the hilt is trying to narrow down your search and you can't think of the best keywords to use to avoid prolific seller's unwanted junk clogging the results with endless pages to wade through, sometimes with 2000+ results.
That brings me to another banquet bugbear. They don't tell you anymore, the amount of results at the top of the page. You only get to see there's 9+ pages which could mean 10 or 100+ pages in total.
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Melbourne sucking as always.

Cup eve at Crown Melbourne, where the only TAB in the entire complex closes at 9PM on the dot so you can't collect winning tickets or vouchers until the next day. Crown doesn't control the TAB located inside its own casino, VCGLR doesn't give two schitts about the inability to collect cash either, take it up with Tabcorp if you want to complain. "That's Crown's problem" - Tabcorp, probably. Electronic betting terminals, aka EBTs, accept banknotes and TAB tickets and vouchers, but can only issue TAB tickets and vouchers, not collect cash.

With pokies (at least in Victoria) you can collect cash at any time as the machine will either dump a bunch of $1 coins or force a hand pay (older machines), or print a cash out ticket (TITO-based machines) which can be turned back into cash at the cashier or at an electronic ticket-to-cash terminal. No such thing exists for TAB or Keno tickets however, you can only collect winnings/vouchers at the TAB counter with the help of a staff member, and only if their machine is still turned on (and in almost all cases, the TAB machines are turned off at night, even as early as 6:30PM in some venues, even in pub TABs where the machine is located at the same bar).

Naturally, in the true style "marvellous" Melbourne is known for, no after-midnight public transport or Night Network for the million or so extra people who came in from the other states to watch the horses being whipped into running around in circles as fast as possible; in fact, the trains will start half an hour later this morning and it will be 50/50 whether half the bus network will even run at all, despite The Race being in the middle of the afternoon as opposed to 5AM.
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Another day, another week in Newcastle;

So there has been a vehicle illegally parked In a Motorcycle parking spot in Newcastle for over a week now according to my work colleagues, apparently having been "dumped" last Tuesday and since has been left as is. If you know Newcastle, the city council is notorious for their parking meters / rates and the rangers make frequent inspections on vehicles to ensure their not overstaying their time limits.

As to how the vehicle is still here a week later is absolutely just beyond me, yesterday at Lunch time as I was coming back from one of my favorite Cafes I visit weekly, I saw a Council Ranger a street over inspecting some Ford Ranger and doing the old "Chalk" mark marking on one of the tyres before working off shortly after, I was almost tempted to go over and tell them there's been a dumped vehicle that's illegally parked, would you want to come look at it? I feel like I would've been laughed at and I was in my work clothing so left it. Come back to work today and it's still there, on my lunch break again today, one of my coworkers saw an officer (General Duties) as they were about to leave and just politely asked them if they could take a check on the vehicle, I head the officer say "we'll take a look at the registration and deal with it from there", the officer didn't even look at the direction of the vehicle or walk over to inspect the vehicle, just stood on their phone typing for the next two minutes before taking off in an unmarked van.

Council doesn't care, the police don't care about a dumped vehicle, I guess this makes this street a free for all then and yes there are disabled spots, two 1/4 timed spots (not ticked parking) but the council could care less, I suppose if they are not ranking in the dollary doo's they could really care less.

This brings me back to a couple of weeks ago, my current day work has my contracted to work with various State NSW government agencies, there is one state government office in Newcastle I was working at a couple of weeks ago, some muppet from Melbourne with their landcruiser decided they were well and truly above everyone else and parked across the back of the staff carparks driveway preventing office staff from being able to enter / leave the carpark with the company vehicles, it must've been a good 3 hours it was there for in total, I'd spoken to one of the office staff who told me the cops eventually came out, put a sticker on the car and left, I asked if they had called the rangers, the response I got from them went along the lines of "completely and utterly garbage and waste of time". So I laughed inside my head, even Newcastle Council wouldn't answer to a NSW state government department if they had issues.

So it's well and truly fine if you impede access to ones driveway in Newcastle, Council couldn't care, you can dump a vehicle and council won't care but don't you dare park 5 minutes over the parking time limit otherwise we'll send you a nasty cold heartless bill in the mail.

TLDR; Newcastle Council Rangers are garbage and useless, dumped vehicle and no one cares to do anything about it, You can block access to a state governments carpark preventing staff from exiting / entering with company vehicles and rangers still won't turn up but park 5 minutes and you'll get a nice bill a week or so later.
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That sounds more like rangers in a town of 5000 saving face versus a major population centre...
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Ebay sellers (both private & stores) who are so stingy with "Make an offer", I saw a nice piece of clothing on Ebay and the listing had the option of BIN (Buy it now) or make an offer, making an offer never hurts so I do that and since I am aware of how tight Ebay sellers are in regards to offers (I've never managed to get more than $5 off an item when making an offer :/ ) I decide to go ahead and make an offer for $5 off the item, seller comes back with a counter offer for $2 off instead.

I had to facepalm at this one, It goes to show yet another problem with the almighty online marketplace that is Ebay, half the site is full of drop shipping cheap Chinese items coming from "SYDNEY" (Reality it's some warehouse in China) and then you've got sellers who say "Make me an offer" so you do only to find out their not serious about taking real offers after all, I think it's just another hook, line and sinker move to attract potential buyers to their listing on the basis they can try their luck at getting a discount however as I've already mentioned above, most won't respond to more than $5 off or in most cases Auto rejects the offer.

I know they have fees to contend with when selling with Ebay (and postage too). It is just that A. $5 off is not going to hurt the seller and is reasonable and B. If the best your going to offer is $2 how about instead then listing the item for $2 cheaper and take away the make an offer option. Ebay sellers who pull stunts like the following don't deserve a space on the platform.
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Usually I've found the listings adorned with the most Australian flags and claims the product is really, DEFINITELY the real deal are the ones to watch (i.e. stay away from!).
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Who’s job was it to look after the allocated bus stops on the timetables and routes again?!?

To put this circus into context, came into Fairfield this arvo on a 904 while returning home from Cronulla and asked to be dropped off at the Court Rd stop on Alan St just before the Speedway servo (Stop ID 2165178.) Normally, drivers just fly past this stop and dumped everyone at the station. However to my absolute surprise and bewilderment, the stop in question was scratched off the face of the earth; the bay itself now a NO STOPPING zone lining up to the quickest and quietest traffic light intersection in the Fairfield CBD.

To make this even better, the nearby stop 216515 on Court Rd carrying the inbound 812, 813 and 814 coming off The Horsley Drive (which does the exact same thing, which was to give a closer stop to Neeta City Shopping Centre, a helping drawcard for the infirmed in this town for which Fairfield Station would be way too far for them to walk from) gets to stay open, but 2165178 had to kick the bucket, and the 904, 905, 906 and S4 can now only stop at the station. Of course, the rest of the passengers were all looking at me like I was some demented imbecile.

My biggest problem isn’t that the stop itself is gone, though it is an inconvenience, especially during the hot summer days. When a bus stop is closed for good, it makes sense that they’re then taken off the timetable so that they don’t show up on the likes of Trip Planner or TripView or Anytrip, right? So if Court Rd/Alan St closed a little while back, then WHY THE HELL does the stop STILL show up on the timetable, let alone on TripView?!?

That’s right, stop 2165178 is dead, but it is still showing up as an active bus stop for the 904, 905, 906 and S4.

Whether it was Transdev neglecting to share this info, Fairfield Council or RMS failing to pick up the info on the bus stop while doing roadworks (though the stop was near completely unmarked, with no effort whatsoever from TfNSW to mark it out, even if it is a second-last drop off stop, so can’t really blame council here, they must’ve thought the stop was already dead) or something, I don’t know, nor have I recovered from my mental breakdown enough to make any attempt to care about finding out. I know TfNSW barely pays any tithe of attention to anything outside their precious Eastern Suburbs condos, let alone a matter hitting western suburbs plebs like myself, but stuff me…

TL;DR: If a stop on a route closes and changes to a No Stopping zone, then TfNSW should be updating the routes immediately to clear it off the timetable; do not mislead commuters who may have either not been there before or were in Fairfield last when the bus with route number 817 was going to Lansvale and not Edensor. It is disingenuous and lazy to just not even act on it. (But then again, so is TfNSW)
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I use to Enjoy Newcastle's Christmas bus but over the years the love & attention that was put into it has fizzled out and now the bare minimum is applied it. You use to be able to get the then STA Newcastle Christmas bus and it would be decorated head to toe from the inside and outside with tinsel and all these amazing decorations and made you feel like you were riding something really unique, special and got you that warm Christmas feeling.

Now you get no music, minimum tinsel stuck to the internal roof panels and some boring sticker decals attached to the windows... That's it.

I rode it last year after trying to chase it one weekend and the Christmas music wasn't even playing, hardly any internal decorations (only deco I remember was the buses outside wrap) which left me disappointed. For the second year in a row the Christmas bus timetable schedule is abysmal and there is no timetabled morning 11 or route 13 services the Christmas bus will be running on until the 18th of December which only then will the Christmas bus make it's first weekend appearance on the 11 and that's a Sunday.

I appreciate it's still here in a way however the current detail applied to Newcastles is unfortunately a joke & insult to the lady who started it all, I've heard she's retired and no longer working with NT which may explain why our local Christmas bus has gone downhill.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:17 am I use to Enjoy Newcastle's Christmas bus but over the years the love & attention that was put into it has fizzled out and now the bare minimum is applied it. You use to be able to get the then STA Newcastle Christmas bus and it would be decorated head to toe from the inside and outside with tinsel and all these amazing decorations and made you feel like you were riding something really unique, special and got you that warm Christmas feeling.

Now you get no music, minimum tinsel stuck to the internal roof panels and some boring sticker decals attached to the windows... That's it.

I rode it last year after trying to chase it one weekend and the Christmas music wasn't even playing, hardly any internal decorations (only deco I remember was the buses outside wrap) which left me disappointed. For the second year in a row the Christmas bus timetable schedule is abysmal and there is no timetabled morning 11 or route 13 services the Christmas bus will be running on until the 18th of December which only then will the Christmas bus make it's first weekend appearance on the 11 and that's a Sunday.

I appreciate it's still here in a way however the current detail applied to Newcastles is unfortunately a joke & insult to the lady who started it all, I've heard she's retired and no longer working with NT which may explain why our local Christmas bus has gone downhill.
If the person who started it and put a lot of effort into it has left, there a high chance this is just a job that someone else “has to” do (rather than “wants to). I’d say the fact there is a special schedule of what runs it will be doing suggests there’s still more effort put into it than most other places around the country, where (if there’s a Christmas bus at all) it is rostered as any other bus would be.

That’s not to say your disappoint isn’t justified though.
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I do get that through, It's just that as I mentioned in my OP seeing what other Operators in Inner-Sydney, possibly even Melbourne & Brisbane are pulling off, I'd kinda hoped Newcastle Transport would go for the same level even if it had to be toned down somewhat.

We use to get Christmas lights on there, all you can see tinsel and the seats were all done up that you wouldn't be able to see the rears of them, Christmas music to add. I'm still intending to see it but I won't be as joyful for this years bus, that's gone and only bringing the previous level of detail will personally bring that joy back for me.
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The lady's retired, it's hardly surprising. It sounds like she went all out with it. Maybe someone else will show that enthusiasm down the line.
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Call me old fashioned regarding christmas we are a large family we sent out 70 odd christmas cards we sat down one night writting them out. We posted them 2 weeks ago we received 4 back but received many E-Mails does any one think like me if its to much effort to say a few lines on a card its worked for many many years I Feel if its to much trouble to do that don't bother with the E-Mails what do others think ????? if thats the case I WON'T BOTHER with them!
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An email acknowledging your effort is better than nothing, but packets of cards can be had for very little cost, and stamps during the festive season are about half the usual price ... not that hard to return the gesture.

I guess you can only live in the hope that the cards brightened someone's day.
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oh goodness, we've gone somewhat a while without a grumpy grumpy post, perhaps nothing gives us the S&#t's anymore ;)

I've completed some massive work shifts recently (only really returning home to sleep & shower) and my body feels very weak now. Barely got any sleep last night, woke up at 4 or thereabouts from the heat unable to sleep just tossing & turning, felt jittery.

To top it off, I've got matters I need to attend to today, not feeling it but can't put it off.
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Keolis Downer, you know you majorly messed up when buses during rush hour are being cancelled left, right & center. Rocked up to a bus stop yesterday morning after getting off a train, missed an 11 bus by 5 minutes, okay I'll wait for the next one .... "checks app minutes after the next 11 is due to arrive at bus stop 123456" but hasn't shown up yet. Oh cancelled now, okay well it's getting late-ish but I can just hold on for the next one that's due in 15 minutes which shows as "scheduled" but not trackable. That time comes when it's due to arrive and that doesn't show up either (but not cancelled on real time applications) it's getting close to 9AM of which I exactly have a 9AM start for work and the 3rd 11 bus is running but will not get me to my destination until after 9 AM.

Ended up having to jump on the only following bus that would at least get me into Wickham CBD (A Hunter Valley bus) as Rover & Port Stephens only operate setdown only to the Interchange at this stop and then transfer to a light-rail tram getting me to work at 9:15 AM.

Hooray for privatisation! Can't honestly wait for the usuals to come in here and defend this woeful garbage of a mess and say that this is still working as intended and better than the state government running it. It's time operators should start facing major penalties if cancellations are becoming frequent, I don't care if your issue is still "driver shortage" if you can't run your buses during peak hour at best you deserve to face investigation.

All up, over 40 minutes wasted waiting at a bus stop for non-existent buses. In the future I guess I'll just avoid KD buses as much as possible on peak hour as they've proven they can't be trusted.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:42 am Keolis Downer, you know you majorly messed up when buses during rush hour are being cancelled left, right & center. Rocked up to a bus stop yesterday morning after getting off a train, missed an 11 bus by 5 minutes, okay I'll wait for the next one .... "checks app minutes after the next 11 is due to arrive at bus stop 123456" but hasn't shown up yet. Oh cancelled now, okay well it's getting late-ish but I can just hold on for the next one that's due in 15 minutes which shows as "scheduled" but not trackable. That time comes when it's due to arrive and that doesn't show up either (but not cancelled on real time applications) it's getting close to 9AM of which I exactly have a 9AM start for work and the 3rd 11 bus is running but will not get me to my destination until after 9 AM.

Ended up having to jump on the only following bus that would at least get me into Wickham CBD (A Hunter Valley bus) as Rover & Port Stephens only operate setdown only to the Interchange at this stop and then transfer to a light-rail tram getting me to work at 9:15 AM.

Hooray for privatisation! Can't honestly wait for the usuals to come in here and defend this woeful garbage of a mess and say that this is still working as intended and better than the state government running it. It's time operators should start facing major penalties if cancellations are becoming frequent, I don't care if your issue is still "driver shortage" if you can't run your buses during peak hour at best you deserve to face investigation.

All up, over 40 minutes wasted waiting at a bus stop for non-existent buses. In the future I guess I'll just avoid KD buses as much as possible on peak hour as they've proven they can't be trusted.
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Perhaps but not everyone is in a position to afford an electric bike or ride one and god forbid your city has horrid bike paths that are randomly scattered all over the place and forces you to ride alongside traffic in 60 KMPH roads, it's not really a 100% fix solution nor is it doing anything to address what I've said, penalties against operators for too many cancelled services.

No one really enjoys their day job, I'd like just to get to work, do my job and then go home and rest & reset for the following day, when your reliant on public transport, your essentially adding another spanner into your day. If something goes majorly wrong and it delays getting to work of course you'll be really upset like I was (even more so when you add the wasted time waiting for said buses, then getting to work late).

I've had a coworker who finished early in the afternoon and it was pouring down heavy rain not too long ago, they live in 15-20 minutes drive away from the CBD but the only public transport to their home is a bus, a bus route that had 3 services in a row cancelled that afternoon and faces cancellations just about everyday when they conclude work, they instead have to fork out for an uber which costs more than their bus fare would (add surge pricing as well because everyone is now getting an uber because the buses aren't running).

But I read the room, I'm the sole person here complaining about this and the attitude is or close to "well either deal with it or accept it". No, instead how about we start as I suggested by fining operators that cancel their services too frequently and the state government / TNSW starts monitoring them, if their performance still drops & no improvements are made, then their contract is terminated, hand it over to the next in line.

For a Transport Discussion forum, I find it really strange that no one or very little is asking questions on why this is acceptable and why isn't proper action being taken against the operators, then again there was those here who cheered the privatisation of STA on so I presume that their completely fine with woeful services so long as it isn't affecting them.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:42 am Hooray for privatisation! Can't honestly wait for the usuals to come in here and defend this woeful garbage of a mess and say that this is still working as intended and better than the state government running it. It's time operators should start facing major penalties if cancellations are becoming frequent, I don't care if your issue is still "driver shortage" if you can't run your buses during peak hour at best you deserve to face investigation.
In spite of not really having a much of an opinion one way or another here, I actually agree with you. Operators are contracted to provide a service to whatever the standard is in whatever area. If they're not running the trips, for a start they're not getting paid (well hopefully).

My question is whether Government are turning a blind eye to what's going on, or whether the contracts consider COVID/Global economic woes/driver "shortages" as force majeure, and thus will not penalise operators for the fallout from this?

Perhaps it should work like tiered water bills. A few lost trips in a day may be acceptable if an isolated incident makes running every service impossible. More than that, on an ongoing basis especially, and there's clearly more at play, so make it a far more costly penalty.

If a company is not retaining staff, let alone struggling to recruit, they're doing something wrong. It isn't always money either, as shortages have been rife in the high paid driving roles in Perth and Canberra too. I feel that staff turnover should be measured in contract KPIs, just to name and shame those companies who think it appropriate to churn through staff.

Some folks will use paid-for HR license upgrades to get their HR, then after a few months vanish into a FIFO job. Perhaps the bus industry can't compete with those wages (although they were forced to in Perth, it got so bad), but they could take steps to either reclaim the lost training expenses or contract new recruits for a minimum period.
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I had thoughts myself of going into the industry however for the time being I've decided against (at least for the time being) personally because the pay is on par with what I currently make in a completely different industry, add to doing a lot of overtime and dealing with crap from management (who only sit in their office chairs and don't care what drivers on the ground put up with) as well as listening to stories from former drivers I'd rather go buy my own personal bus and drive that around on my own personal time if I was that inclined.

> My question is whether Government are turning a blind eye to what's going on

I mean the state government was more than happy to throw their government assets to the private sector so I would 100% say that they are possibly turning a blind eye. You can go fill out all the complaints against the operator you'd want (as some of my coworkers have done from major annoyance of having to get ubers all the time in lieu of buses) but it's just another complaint added to the ever growing pile and eventually a report may be released one day saying there were X number of complaints raised about cancellation buses but no penalties were issued against the operator for this.

I just don't honestly get how Newcastle (which I believe the demand is somewhat different and not as majorly big as Sydney) even struggles to run their services of peak hour, there's just no way this realistically should be happening and that their allowed to get away with it, it's maddening.

As I've said before, I put up with the odd-bod cancelled service, it happens, I just can't deal with the next following service being cancelled as well and yet in that timeframe you see 5 different NOT IN SERVICE buses go past your stop, you'd think management would radio one of them and ask them to SPECIAL to at least prevent services being cancelled but at the same time their possibly already going somewhere else to fill in for another route that needs it more.
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Denver is giving people a rebate on electric bikes https://www.denvergov.org/Government/Ag ... es-Rebates

All we need to do is make default 30 km/h safe backroads where everybody has to give a 2m gap when passing including cars.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:42 am Keolis Downer, you know you majorly messed up when buses during rush hour are being cancelled left, right & center. Rocked up to a bus stop yesterday morning after getting off a train, missed an 11 bus by 5 minutes, okay I'll wait for the next one .... "checks app minutes after the next 11 is due to arrive at bus stop 123456" but hasn't shown up yet. Oh cancelled now, okay well it's getting late-ish but I can just hold on for the next one that's due in 15 minutes which shows as "scheduled" but not trackable. That time comes when it's due to arrive and that doesn't show up either (but not cancelled on real time applications) it's getting close to 9AM of which I exactly have a 9AM start for work and the 3rd 11 bus is running but will not get me to my destination until after 9 AM.

Ended up having to jump on the only following bus that would at least get me into Wickham CBD (A Hunter Valley bus) as Rover & Port Stephens only operate setdown only to the Interchange at this stop and then transfer to a light-rail tram getting me to work at 9:15 AM.

Hooray for privatisation! Can't honestly wait for the usuals to come in here and defend this woeful garbage of a mess and say that this is still working as intended and better than the state government running it. It's time operators should start facing major penalties if cancellations are becoming frequent, I don't care if your issue is still "driver shortage" if you can't run your buses during peak hour at best you deserve to face investigation.

All up, over 40 minutes wasted waiting at a bus stop for non-existent buses. In the future I guess I'll just avoid KD buses as much as possible on peak hour as they've proven they can't be trusted.

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I am not convinced privatisation can be solely blamed for this. Publicly owned operators (Brisbane City Council, Metro Tasmania, Transport Canberra) are also short on driver - perhaps not to the same extent of some private operators though. On the flip side, there are some private operators who are not missing any trips (Busways SA on the top of my head but I’m sure there are others).

Peak hour is when the most buses (and drivers) are required so it makes sense that is when cuts and cancellations are most common. I understand your frustration though, sounds like it could be managed better if multiple services in a row on a route are being cancelled.
ScaniaGrenda wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:02 am I had thoughts myself of going into the industry however for the time being I've decided against (at least for the time being) personally because the pay is on par with what I currently make in a completely different industry, add to doing a lot of overtime and dealing with crap from management (who only sit in their office chairs and don't care what drivers on the ground put up with) as well as listening to stories from former drivers I'd rather go buy my own personal bus and drive that around on my own personal time if I was that inclined.


This is all dependant on the operator - its not a rule that all bus managers are lazy and sit in a chair all day. Many are former drivers and probably do understand what goes on, on the road. And remember that “former” drivers probably won’t have much positive to say; I’m sure there are positives everywhere with the right mindset.
ScaniaGrenda wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:50 am No one really enjoys their day job …
Speak for yourself :P
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