Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

[Petarkco]

https://transportnsw.info/southwest-link

There will be new T6 Lidcombe & Bankstown Line and T3 Liverpool & Inner West Line.

Also confirms that Metro North West & City becomes M1. (https://transportnsw.info/document/7154 ... orkMap.pdf)

[pgt]

There will be new T6 Lidcombe & Bankstown Line and T3 Liverpool & Inner West Line.

Also confirms that Metro North West & City becomes M1. (https://transportnsw.info/document/7154 ... orkMap.pdf)

Also noting that Erskineville and St Peters will be operated as T8 line stations (think there was speculation they'd be operated by T4 line trains?).

[Aurora]

Also noting that Erskineville and St Peters will be operated as T8 line stations (think there was speculation they'd be operated by T4 line trains?).

Under this timetable.

[Glen]

Also noting that Erskineville and St Peters will be operated as T8 line stations (think there was speculation they'd be operated by T4 line trains?).

Under this timetable.

Not long term?

[marcnut1996]

From Jo Haylen's IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6YPTY6LIbP/?img_index=1

The Southwest Link bus shown in the post appears to be a Red Bus Service bus based on fleet lists. However, the woman on the right is a Transit Systems representative, as seen from this news clip (https://youtu.be/RjPEkl9kloU?si=6Yapv5bsuvHvJ_eg).

[TheOpalUser]

Under this timetable.

Not long term?

From https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projec ... e-services

Erskineville and St Peters stations will continue to receive direct services to the Sydney CBD via the T8 Airport & South Line until these stations are moved to the T4 Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line permanently.

[boxythingy]

I thought the plan was to funnel everything through the Airport tunnels given there will now be extra capacity, and to free up extra space much needed for the T4? Have the Airport tunnel signalling upgrades been delayed?

[Glen]

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade compared to the line capacity now?

[Engineering]

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade compared to the line capacity now?

Currently 4 min in peak (15 per hour) and 10 min off peak (6 per hour).

Many of the initial boards outside stations under construction touted 3 minutes.

I would very much like to see off peak increased to 7.5 mins (8 per hour) of even 6 (10 per hour) since this is now a CBDservice.

[Swift]

London is still well ahead. To their standards 5 mins is a long wait - off peak.
The longer people have to wait at a station the slower you make their average speed getting places. This is not good enough for the expenditure and how new this is and without drivers. I guess we can't make the legacy snail rail system look even more awful.

[Aurora]

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade compared to the line capacity now?

Currently 4 min in peak (15 per hour) and 10 min off peak (6 per hour).

Many of the initial boards outside stations under construction touted 3 minutes.

I would very much like to see off peak increased to 7.5 mins (8 per hour) of even 6 (10 per hour) since this is now a CBDservice.

I think they were referring to the Airport line, not the Metro line through the CBD.

[Glen]

Currently 4 min in peak (15 per hour) and 10 min off peak (6 per hour).

Many of the initial boards outside stations under construction touted 3 minutes.

I would very much like to see off peak increased to 7.5 mins (8 per hour) of even 6 (10 per hour) since this is now a CBDservice.

I think they were referring to the Airport line, not the Metro line through the CBD.

Thanks, I was, I'll ask again below.

[Glen]

I thought the plan was to funnel everything through the Airport tunnels given there will now be extra capacity, and to free up extra space much needed for the T4? Have the Airport tunnel signalling upgrades been delayed?

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade of the Airport line, compared to the line capacity now?

[Transtopic]

I thought the plan was to funnel everything through the Airport tunnels given there will now be extra capacity, and to free up extra space much needed for the T4? Have the Airport tunnel signalling upgrades been delayed?

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade of the Airport line, compared to the line capacity now?

It is from 10tph to 18tph with upgrades to the current signalling, which doesn't include further upgrades with the proposed digital signalling.

From what I can see, the imminent timetable with the closure of the Bankstown Line for metro conversion, will continue to run some T8 peak services via Sydenham to and from the City Circle. There is also a further timetable upgrade proposed in 2025 when the Bankstown metro line becomes operational, which will probably then result in all T8 services running via the Airport Line as previously proposed.

T4 services will continue to run to Bondi Junction as they do now, but at an increased frequency, while SCO Intercity services will run to Sydney Terminal instead of Bondi Junction.

[Glen]

What was the maximum frequency intended after the upgrade of the Airport line, compared to the line capacity now?

It is from 10tph to 18tph with upgrades to the current signalling, which doesn't include further upgrades with the proposed digital signalling.

Really?

It has trains 3 minutes apart already. Would that not make its line capacity 20 tph ?

[stupid_girl]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new ... 5fnlr.html
It seems the line is not yet handed over to the operator, and it will take another 6-8 weeks of trial operations after handover.

[Transtopic]

It is from 10tph to 18tph with upgrades to the current signalling, which doesn't include further upgrades with the proposed digital signalling.

Really?

It has trains 3 minutes apart already. Would that not make its line capacity 20 tph ?

The Inner City Circle Line via Museum in the morning peak currently has 18tph - 4xT3 + 10xT8 via Airport Line + 4xT8 via Sydenham. There are 2 spare paths. The Outer City Circle via Town Hall has 20tph - 14xT2 + 6xT3.

The 2024 timetable will be an interim measure with T8 services via Sydenham continuing to run, including St Peters and Erskineville, There will be a further timetable update in 2025, when all T8 services at an increased frequency of 18tph will run via the Airport Line. As mentioned, St Peters and Erskineville will then be serviced by T4 permanently and the SCO Intercity services will run on the Illawarra Local to Sydney Terminal instead of Bondi Junction. The Outer City Circle via Town Hall T2 services will increase from 14 to 18tph, although there will be an overall reduction of 2tph on that sector.

I don't know why the full capacity of 20tph in both directions on the City Circle with the current signalling isn't being fully utilised, but it might have something to do with the limitations on the Airport Line and the mixed stopping pattern on the T2 Line until the digital signalling upgrades are completed.
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[Engineering]

I think they were referring to the Airport line, not the Metro line through the CBD.

Sorry, my mistake.

[PG1]

The reason they can run extra services through the City Circle is because of the elimination/closure of St James Station.

On the new map published on the Southwest link page, St James Station has been deleted!!
(Not really, the line/station indicators remain, the name hasn't been included).

[Swift]

As someone with the same name, I can relate to not being included.
I wish they'd do something with the spare platforms in the middle.

[PG1]

The middle platforms at St James?

There has been some discussion on that topic in this Discussion Board.

see: St. James Station: recent ideas for unused tunnels. Jan 2013.
viewtopic.php?t=71559

[Engineering]

Passing through Chatswood recently I noticed the Metro from Tallawong deposited all passengers at Chatswood, and then it continued empty down into the dive into the city.

While I believe this ghost through trial running has been going on for a while (seen it on reddit), it hasn't been reported here, nor had I seen it personally before this.

[Swift]

Passing through Chatswood recently I noticed the Metro from Tallawong deposited all passengers at Chatswood, and then it continued empty down into the dive into the city.

While I believe this ghost through trial running has been going on for a while (seen it on reddit), it hasn't been reported here, nor had I seen it personally before this.

Thanks. That's important to hear about.

[boronia]

At least they're not shutting the whole line down for a week or weekend again to test it.

[Engineering]

At least they're not shutting the whole line down for a week or weekend again to test it.

Actually the metro is closed this weekend 18 and 19 May.

https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/ems-32779