Parramatta light rail

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^^^^^^^^^A competent transport agency would arrange space....

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YALLAMUNDI
Asked to provide references of the word "Yallamundi" appearing in print, the Geographical Names Board provided none, saying "The Board recognises that oral recording of place names in Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander culture has equal standing with written recording."
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[tonyp]

YALLAMUNDI
Asked to provide references of the word "Yarramundi" appearing in print, the Geographical Names Board provided none, saying "The Board recognises that oral recording of place names in Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander culture has equal standing with written recording."
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That's perfectly legit, but people going places need identification that they can recognise.

[boronia]

NSW Labor vows to start next stage of delayed Parramatta light rail in first term

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw ... 5call.html

[boxythingy]

Why isn't anyone confused as to why there is no "Sydney station" but only a "North Sydney station"

8 year old me was confused why the train was not stopping at Syd...enham and had to keep going at snails pace towards Central.

ITSHOULDHAVEBEENCALLEDKINGSPARKSTATION!!!

[745-Castle Hill]

“Sydney” is a big place there, bud. Kinda hard to narrow it down to just one station. Thankfully we have good locality names for the stations across the city so we know approximately where they are.

As for Marayong station, I believe you’ll find the station and railway line are located entirely within the suburb of Marayong. The only confusing thing might be the fact that the new Mariyung trains won’t service that station, haha.

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Perhaps back to the light rail discussion now?

[tonyp]

There is a Sydney Station and alongside it is a Central Station and underneath it another Central Station will be opening soon.

[Fleet Lists]

What does this have to do with Parramatta Light Rail?
Back on subject please.

[lunchbox]

The above discussion DOES have relevance to Parramatta Light Rail.
The current fad of giving aboriginal names to not only places, but 'things", like trains, is going to confuse more and more people, especially with respect to wayfinding. We've dealt with "Yallamundi" (formerly Rydalmere) on this thread, but the Geographical Names Board will almost certainly impose aboriginal names on at least one of the PLR Stage 2 stops.
Come the March election: time to put the broom through the GNB.
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[Linto63]

Come the March election: time to put the broom through the GNB.

A new government to the left of the present one won’t bring about a move to the right.

[Fleet Lists]

Please keep this to the election thread viewtopic.php?t=92745

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CARLINGFORD – CAMELLIA SHARED PATH

A new walk/bike shared path has just been opened (June 2023) alongside the Parramatta – Carlingford Light Rail route. It has enabled a new pedestrian crossing of Parramatta River.

Interpretive descriptions of many of the historical features of the former single-track Clyde to Carlingford railway are presented to the public, including the station building at Dundas and the decorative parapet wall of the 1896 rail bridge over the Parramatta River.

One retained historic artefact however, does not seem to have received the public attention waranted. The small bridge in Tramway Avenue, Parramatta, which carried the 1883 – 1943 Parramatta to Redbank steam tramway over Clay Cliff Creek, possibly the only significant remnant of that railway, is extant, hidden below the western approach ramp of the light rail bridge over James Ruse Drive. The simple twin-I-beam structure is exactly on the former tramway alignment, apparently using the original abutments, though the original beams may have been replaced due to excessive corrosion. The bridge has provided pedestrian access across the creek for many years, and still does.

Ref- Matthews, H.H. (December 1958), The Parramatta Wharf Tramway, Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin, pp. 181–199

f – ParraLR3.doc
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EDIT, 12/6/23.
With reference to tonyp's mention of Dorman Long, below, P1497, in his 13/8/09 post in the "Old Sydney Tram Remnants" thread, says the "girders are by Dorman Long".

[tonyp]

It's worth an inspection to see if it's the original bridge by Dorman Long. Maybe there's an imprint on the steel? Worth bringing to attention of TfNSW.

[Swift]

What have they done with the former railway bridge over the Parramatta River?

[Glen]

What have they done with the former railway bridge over the Parramatta River?

Here's a picture of that bridge:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johncowper/51195542599

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"D" Sign.....
What's the purpose of the white-on-black "D" sign facing drivers on the Parra LRT?
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[tonyp]

One retained historic artefact however, does not seem to have received the public attention waranted. The small bridge in Tramway Avenue, Parramatta, which carried the 1883 – 1943 Parramatta to Redbank steam tramway over Clay Cliff Creek, possibly the only significant remnant of that railway, is extant, hidden below the western approach ramp of the light rail bridge over James Ruse Drive. The simple twin-I-beam structure is exactly on the former tramway alignment, apparently using the original abutments, though the original beams may have been replaced due to excessive corrosion. The bridge has provided pedestrian access across the creek for many years, and still does.

Ref- Matthews, H.H. (December 1958), The Parramatta Wharf Tramway, Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin, pp. 181–199

Here is the subject bridge over Clay Cliff Ck.

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Here is a view from the north bank of the river of this section of Clay Cliff Creek and the Macarthur estate 200 years ago (J.Lycett, NLA):




If only it was still like that!

[lunchbox]

Here's a 2006 pic of that Clay Cliff Ck. tram bridge.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 00.&type=3

The original abutments appear to have survived.

[Swift]

I wouldn't expect I beam steel sections to be required for cyclists or pedestrians!

[tonyp]

Here's a 2006 pic of that Clay Cliff Ck. tram bridge.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 00.&type=3

The original abutments appear to have survived.

The question is whether the steel bridge is still there.

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^^^^^^^^^Yes, it is, and all freshly painted, but sporting a full butt weld at the third point, and no visible signs of "Dorman Long"!

[tonyp]

Construction of Parramatta light rail to commence next year after $200 million injection

Construction of stage two of the Parramatta light rail is on track to begin next year with $200 million to be allocated towards the project in Tuesday’s budget. See the designs.Madeleine Bower

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Daily Telegraph, September 17, 2023 - 5:42PM

Construction of stage two of the Parramatta light rail is on track to begin next year with $200 million to be allocated towards the project in Tuesday’s budget.

The stage two extension will connect Parramatta to Sydney Olympic Park with 14 new stops in Camellia, Rydalmere, Ermington, Melrose Park and Wentworth Point.

The first phase of construction will see a 320-metre-long light rail bridge built over the Parramatta River between Wentworth Point and Melrose Park in 2024. The new bridge will also form part of a new 8.5 kilometre walking and bike riding path which will run alongside the light rail line.

In response to feedback on the initial route, changes have been made along three sections of the track including from the Camellia foreshore to Rydalmere in order to reduce the environmental impacts to sensitive mangrove vegetation along the Parramatta River and reduce journey length times.

The $200 million will come from the Restart NSW fund, which is funded in part from sale of the state’s poles and wires and makes good on an election promise Premier Chris Minns made back in January to see construction for the project begin in the government’s first term.

The costs of the entire project, which was first announced by the former Coalition government, were never revealed. NSW Transport Minister Jo Haylen’s office could not provide a total price tag for the light rail extension and it is understood they will not do so until planning approvals are completed in early 2024. Former Parramatta MP Geoff Lee last year estimated the total project cost to be around $3 billion.

It is understood this first financial injection will pay for project planning and alignment, which refers to planning where the tracks will go. The government will be required to make future investments to fully complete construction.

The Premier said the $200 million injection would give the project the impetus it needed.

“People bought into growing communities in the centre of our city on the promise of future public transport links,” Mr Minns said.

“The previous government couldn’t deliver on that promise, we will.”

[boronia]

Social media reports today that tram testing has commenced.
https://www.facebook.com/jo.haylen

[Swift]

Test what? Tracks are layed by professionals, trams fully manufactured IE imported not built here because we're back to selling raw materials out of thy ground like the industrialised nation we will never be again. Just throw the switches come on!!

[Linto63]

Test what? Tracks are layed by professionals, trams fully manufactured IE imported not built here because we're back to selling raw materials out of thy ground like the industrialised nation we will never be again. Just throw the switches come on!!

You really have no idea do you?