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Could possibly be demand to keep the deviation by people living around that area.
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In regards to proposed TCL changes metronet have confirmed that some services from Thornlie station will be redirected to Nicholson road station and a new high frequency service will connect Maddington station with Nicholson road station


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Just saw from the Transperth timetable site and there's some minor time adjustments for the departure time for weekday trips at the timing point in Blackmore Avenue, Marangaroo for the route 448.

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gasbusnaturally wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:42 pm In regards to proposed TCL changes metronet have confirmed that some services from Thornlie station will be redirected to Nicholson road station and a new high frequency service will connect Maddington station with Nicholson road station


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207 may be one of those.
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Enviro 500 wrote:
gasbusnaturally wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:42 pm In regards to proposed TCL changes metronet have confirmed that some services from Thornlie station will be redirected to Nicholson road station and a new high frequency service will connect Maddington station with Nicholson road station


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207 may be one of those.
Just upgraded to the 11 Pro Max and some weird reason it signed into an old account anyway I digress the question was raised about services and routing in one of the metronet community Facebook groups and one of the admins gave a vague response about rationalisation and improvements/new routes between Maddington & Nicholson Road (Canningvale East) stations


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TP1462 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: 207 may be one of those.
Just upgraded to the 11 Pro Max and some weird reason it signed into an old account anyway I digress the question was raised about services and routing in one of the metronet community Facebook groups and one of the admins gave a vague response about rationalisation and improvements/new routes between Maddington & Nicholson Road (Canningvale East) stations


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Nicholson station more like CV North to me. It is like 5 minutes from my current place. Interesting to see which roads will the new bus service ply.
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shinjiman wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:20 pm Just saw from the Transperth timetable site and there's some minor time adjustments for the departure time for weekday trips at the timing point in Blackmore Avenue, Marangaroo for the route 448.

Timetables updated:
  • Bus Timetable 80
Transperth Website wrote:Route 448 Time Changes
Sun 01 Aug
From Sunday 1 August, Route 448 will undergo minor time changes.

There will be no change to departure times from Warwick Station or Kingsway City Shopping Centre, however, times in between these points will be updated to more accurately reflect the running time of the trips.
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There's another time and route changes on coming mid of August. The notable changes for these are increasing the Sunday frequencies of the route 60 and route changes for the route 517 (from Reflections Road, Stillwater Street and Clearwater Drive to Didcot Street, Balfour Street and Holmes Street), map changes should reflecting the changes from January 2021 route update.

Also there's some school related changes regarding to route 749 (the former route 52/349) to truncate the service only runs between Beechboro and Midland, and no longer travels to Viveash.
Transperth Website wrote: Changes to the CircleRoute and services in the Eastern Suburbs

Sun 15 Aug

From Sunday 15 August there will be changes to the CircleRoute and services operating in the Eastern Suburbs.

Services will change as follows:
  • Route 60 will undergo time changes, including improvements to Saturday and Sunday daytime frequency. The frequency will increase from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes on Saturdays, and from every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes on Sundays.
  • Routes 100, 101, 177, 178, 179, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 211, 212, 219, 220, 223, 228, 229, 231, 232, 233, 243, 244, 245, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 341, 342, 344, 346, 347, 371, 506, 507, 509, 515, 517, 518, 519, 523, 527, 537 and 930 will undergo time changes.
  • Route 114 will now service the following stops:
    • To Perth:
      • Stop 10712 Marmion St after Kirkland Pl
      • Stop 10718 Marmion St before Aldous Pl.
    • To Munster:
      • Stop 10733 Marmion St before Potts St
      • Stop 10726 Marmion St before Norma Rd.
  • Route 340 will undergo time changes and the number of deviations to Perth Vineyards Park will be reduced
  • Route 341 will operate two additional weekday trips replacing withdrawn Route 342 trips. Additionally two Saturday trips are being withdrawn due to poor patronage
  • Route 342 will operate with two fewer weekday trips. These trips will be replaced with additional Route 341 trips
  • Route 343 will undergo time changes and operate two additional trips on school days only departing from Morley Bus Station at 7.20am arriving at Sacramento Av at 7.42am and departing from Sacramento Av at 7.55am arriving at Morley Bus Station at 8.22am
  • Route 345 will undergo time changes, including improvements to Saturday daytime frequency. The frequency will increase from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes
  • Route 508 will undergo time changes and the Saturday trip departing from Cannington Station at 10.57pm will no longer operate
  • Route 516 will undergo time changes and the deviations to Jandakot Airport on Saturdays will be withdrawn
  • Routes 998 and 999 will undergo time changes and a small number of trips will no longer operate.
Transperth Website wrote: Service Changes for Hampton SHS, Kiara College, Balga SHS, La Salle College and Swan Christian College

Mon 16 Aug

From Monday 16 August, services for Hampton SHS, Kiara College, Balga SHS, La Salle College and Swan Christian College will undergo changes as follows:

From Monday 16 August School Special 749 will undergo changes as follows:

Morning School Special 749 from Morley Bus Station to Midland Station

This trip will now operate as a Route 343 departing Morley Bus Station at 7.20am on school days only. This trip will terminate at Stop 15762 (Sacramento Av before Thames Ct) at 7.42 am and will then continue as School Special 749 departing at 7.43am to Midland Station via Caversham, Great Northern Hwy, and La Salle College.

Passengers will not need to change buses at Sacramento Tce.

Passengers currently boarding on Beechboro Rd and Benara Rd will now need to catch Route 343 from along its route.

Passengers currently boarding on Altone Rd adjacent to Altone Park Shopping Centre can catch School Special 749 one stop further north at Stop 15667 (Altone Rd after Amazon Dr).

Afternoon School Special 749 From La Salle College to Midland Station, then continuing to Caversham and Beechboro

This service will now pick up from Stand 6 at La Salle College on Mureil St and travel to Midland Station.

From Midland Station it will continue its current route as it does now through Caversham and Beechboro before terminating at Stop 15845 (Beechboro Rd at Beechboro Central Shopping Centre).

School Special 749 will no longer serve Ashby Tce in Viveash due to poor patronage and to shorten the journey for other passengers.

The following stops will no longer be in use:
  • Stop 14833 (Muriel St before Ashby Tce)
  • Stop 14840 (Ashby Tce after Avon Cr)
  • Stop 14841 (Ashby Tce after Kent St)
  • Stop 14842 (Ashby Tce after Sefton Av)
  • Stop 14844 (Ashby Tce before Kent St)
  • Stop 14846 (Stewartby Cr after Harford Av)
  • Stop 14847 (Sefton Av after Stewartby Cr)
  • Stop 14848 (Harford Av after Ashby Tce)
  • Stop 14855 (Toodyay Rd before Lewis Jones Cr).
The nearest alternative stop will be:
  • Stop 14834 (Muriel St - La Salle College).
Passengers wishing to travel past Stop 15845 (Beechboro Rd at Beechboro Central Shopping Centre) towards Morley Bus Station will need to transfer to Route 345 or alternatively transfer at Midland Station and catch the train to Bassendean Station and transfer to Route 955 to Morley Bus Station.

Morning Trip - 749 from Caversham to Morley Bus Station

This trip will be rerouted to operate as normal up to the corner of Altone Rd and Amazon Dr, then right Amazon Dr, right Sacramento Av to terminate at Stop 15762 (Sacramento Av before Thames Ct) at 7.54am.

School Special 749 will then continue as a Route 343 trip departing at 7.55am and arriving at Morley Bus Station at 8.22am.

Students will not need to change buses at Sacramento Tce.

Students have the following options:
  • Students travelling to Kiara College should get off Route 343 at Stop 15786 (Bottlebrush Rd after Peppermint Pl) arriving at approximately 8.05am.
  • Students travelling to Hampton Senior High School should get off Route 343 at Stop 15848 (Beechboro Rd after Wheatstone Dr) arriving at approximately 8.08am.
  • Students currently boarding at Stop 15659 (Altone Rd after Amazon Dr) will be able to catch School Special 749 from Stop 15658 Altone Rd (after Small St) or Stop 15763 (Amazon Dr after Madeira) at approximately 7.45am.
    Alternatively students travelling to Kiara College can board the Route 353 trip that deviates via the College from Stop 15659 (Altone Rd after Amazon Dr) at approximately 8.27am.
  • Students boarding at Stop 15660 (Altone Rd after Maguire Av) can catch School Special 749 from Stop 15713 (Brockmill Av before Barlee Wy) at approximately 7.40am.
  • Alternatively students travelling to Kiara College can board the Route 353 trip that deviates via the College from Stop 15659 (Altone Rd after Amazon Dr) at approximately 8.27am.
  • Students can also catch the Route 341 trip that deviates via Kiara College from Stop 15626 (Benara Rd after Lord St) or Stop 15629 (Benara Rd after Altone Rd) at approximately 8.22am.
Afternoon Trip 749 From Morley Bus Station to Midland Station

This service will undergo a route change to start at Stop 15762 (Sacramento Av before Thames Ct) at 3.16pm to travel via Sacramento Av, Amazon Dr and Altone Rd to continue to Midland Station via Caversham, Great Northern Hwy, and La Salle College (as it currently operates).

Students currently boarding the service prior to Altone Rd should catch the Route 343 trip that starts at Hampton Senior High School at 2.54pm and deviates via Kiara College arriving at Stop 15762 (Sacramento Av before Thames Ct) at 3.15pm. The service will then continue as School Special 749.

Students will not need to change buses at Sacramento Tce.

Students have the following options:

Students currently boarding at Stops 11590 (Morley Dr after Tonkin Hwy) Hampton Senior High School can catch the Route 343 trip that departs from the school at Stop 15812 on Maidstone Wy at 2.54pm or from Stop 15853 (Beechboro Rd before Araluen St)
Students currently boarding near Kiara College at Stop 15644 (Benara Rd after Milligan St and Stop 15645 (Benara Rd after Danube Av) can catch the Route 343 trip that deviates via Kiara College (at Stop 26307) at approximately 3.05pm
Students currently alighting on Altone Rd (bus stop 15666) to access Altone Park Shopping Centre to transfer to Route 955 are advised to get off School Special 749 one stop further north on at Stop 15667 (Altone Rd after Amazon Dr).
School Special 749 will no longer serve Ashby Tce in Viveash due to poor patronage and to shorten the journey for other passengers.

The following stops will no longer be in use:
  • Stop 14833 (Muriel St before Ashby Tce)
  • Stop 14840 (Ashby Tce after Avon Cr)
  • Stop 14841 (Ashby Tce after Kent St)
  • Stop 14842 (Ashby Tce after Sefton Av)
  • Stop 14844 (Ashby Tce before Kent St)
  • Stop 14846 (Stewartby Cr after Harford Av)
  • Stop 14847 (Sefton Av after Stewartby Cr)
  • Stop 14848 (Harford Av after Ashby Tce)
  • Stop 14855 (Toodyay Rd before Lewis Jones Cr).
The nearest alternative stop will be:
  • Stop 14834 (Muriel St - La Salle College).
The Route 371 trip that deviates via Balga Senior High School will undergo a time change, travelling later to better align with the school’s start time.

The current trip that departs Warwick Station at 7.29am on school days, deviating via the school will no longer deviate due to low patronage. Instead it will operate as a regular trip to Morley Bus Station via Mirrabooka on all weekdays.

An additional school days Route 371 trip will depart Warwick Station at 8.14am deviating via the school at approximately 8.33am will now operate.
Timetables updated:
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shinjiman wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:33 pm There's another time and route changes on coming mid of August. The notable changes for these are increasing the Sunday frequencies of the route 60
As well as daytime Sundays going from 30 to 15 min, Saturdays will go from 20 to 15 min. Evenings pretty much unchanged.

I remember Morley (and I think Mirrabooka) having buses every 20 min after everywhere else moved to every 15/30/60 min.

Are there any 20 min off-peak headways in Perth left?
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Great Eastern Hwy will still be a 20 minute headway on Sunday's. I'm not sure on any other areas that would still have that after the upcoming change.

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Route 300 is a 20 minute frequency but given that is funded (can't recall if fully or partially) by Midland Gate Shopping Centre and that frequency allows it to be efficiently operated with one bus, I can't see that changing any time soon unless the funding arrangement changes or the route is adjusted.

Looks like route 60 is only a few trips short of meeting the high frequency definition (the 15 min freq doesn't quite extend until 7pm yet), so surely the next change will see those last handful of trips added to meet the definition and possible re-numbering to the 900-series family?

Another notable change in this lot is route 345 being upgraded to every 15 minutes for most of Saturdays.

Morley is starting to get some pretty decent coverage of high frequency services now. Routes 60 and 950 every 15 minutes or better during the day, everyday, and routes 345, 371 and 998/999 every 15 minutes during the day, Monday to Saturday.
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I was only expecting 30 min frequencies on the 345 during Saturdays but hey 15 mins is even better.
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Mr OC Benz wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:35 pm Looks like route 60 is only a few trips short of meeting the high frequency definition (the 15 min freq doesn't quite extend until 7pm yet), so surely the next change will see those last handful of trips added to meet the definition and possible re-numbering to the 900-series family?
It will be quite interesting to see if the 60 could meet the high-frequency route criteria, or if the concept won't be applied to all routes that reach a high frequency.
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Mr OC Benz wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:35 pm
Another notable change in this lot is route 345 being upgraded to every 15 minutes for most of Saturdays.
Oddly it's very asymmetrical with the 15 min inbound service finishing just after 3pm and dropping to an hourly service soon after.
Maybe they're trying to squeeze the most out of an extra driver's day shift without needing another?

Also interesting this was thought higher priority than (say) adding a Sunday service to 343.

Could they be setting the 345 up to be something bigger?

Eg it could be the main route from Galleria - Morley station and then on to either Malaga or Dayton station.
People will ride it south to Galleria / Morley and north to another station (if that's nearer) so it should get
bidirectional use in the peaks.
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PaxInfo wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:08 pm
Also interesting this was thought higher priority than (say) adding a Sunday service to 343.

Could they be setting the 345 up to be something bigger?
Or even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days.
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PaxInfo wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:09 pm
shinjiman wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:33 pm There's another time and route changes on coming mid of August. The notable changes for these are increasing the Sunday frequencies of the route 60
As well as daytime Sundays going from 30 to 15 min, Saturdays will go from 20 to 15 min. Evenings pretty much unchanged.

I remember Morley (and I think Mirrabooka) having buses every 20 min after everywhere else moved to every 15/30/60 min.
Yes it was both Morley and Mirrabooka - Morley moved to 15/30/60 minute headways in October 2010 followed by Mirrabooka in November 2011 (except for the 371 - previously 64 - which was upgraded in July 2011).
PaxInfo wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:09 pmAre there any 20 min off-peak headways in Perth left?
The only "remnant" that comes to mind is the Alexander Drive ex-Citylink routes which are now the 360, 361 and 362, each running hourly for a combined 20 minute frequency. For a while supplemented by the 888 to Mirrabooka which was also every 20 minutes, and has now become the all-stops 960.

The other routes mentioned above (300 and Great Eastern Hwy) were introduced in the last ten years or so - another couple of recent examples are:
-Cambridge Street on weekends (from when route 85 started to run on Sundays)
-Fremantle Blue Cat, which was reduced from every 10 minutes due to Covid-19
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Merc1107 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pm
PaxInfo wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:08 pm
Also interesting this was thought higher priority than (say) adding a Sunday service to 343.

Could they be setting the 345 up to be something bigger?
Or even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days.
Maybe one for another thread but should the 353 be rerouted via the new Arthur Street bridge to replace the 340 entirely? Would improve frequencies in Caversham, eliminate the current 'weak' 340 terminus and also be a shorter route, saving a lot of km's that could be used to upgrade other routes such as the 955.
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PaxInfo wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:08 pm Also interesting this was thought higher priority than (say) adding a Sunday service to 343.

Could they be setting the 345 up to be something bigger?

Eg it could be the main route from Galleria - Morley station and then on to either Malaga or Dayton station.
People will ride it south to Galleria / Morley and north to another station (if that's nearer) so it should get
bidirectional use in the peaks.
Purely speculative but I suspect it would have to do with longer term planning objectives. Both the corridor that route 60 and 345 operate along were identified conceptually as "high frequency public transit" corridors (map below) in planning framework released in 2018 (Perth and Peel @ 3.5 million). Many of these corridors would likely be earmarked for higher intensity development, to support infill targets and reduce car dependency in these areas. Routes 371 and 998/999 (among others) are also corridors that on this map, could potentially see higher intensity development.
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Observing service changes over recent years (since the expansion funding ended) would suggest there is little appetite for improving services (particularly those of a coverage nature with minimal attractors such as the 343) which are poorly patronised, and indeed we have seen many minor, gradual reductions (and a few savage reductions) in services on some of these poorly patronised routes in recent years where trips have been removed or shortened.

As far as I can tell, in each of these adjustments, those resources appear to have been redistributed elsewhere, mostly to busier routes (particularly many of the 900-series routes that now exist) or to new growth areas - although even recent examples of this would appear to be the result of lobbying by local MPs and the communities they represent. Presumably for the same reasons as (existing) poorly patronised routes, there is likely little appetite to divert resources to new growth areas with limited population catchments and often with incomplete road networks that make providing bus services difficult and inefficient, unless additional funding is provided.
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Traklink wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 pm
Merc1107 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Or even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days.
Maybe one for another thread but should the 353 be rerouted via the new Arthur Street bridge to replace the 340 entirely? Would improve frequencies in Caversham, eliminate the current 'weak' 340 terminus and also be a shorter route, saving a lot of km's that could be used to upgrade other routes such as the 955.
One of the benefits touted for building the Arthur St bridge over Reid Hwy was to allow for improved bus connections, so yes I do wonder if and when those improvements would occur - presumably involving the 340 and 353 given that they are what they are currently because that is all the road network permitted until recently (and in the case of route 353, that is still the situation the further north you go given the area is still being developed).
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Mr OC Benz wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:35 pm Route 300 is a 20 minute frequency but given that is funded (can't recall if fully or partially) by Midland Gate Shopping Centre and that frequency allows it to be efficiently operated with one bus, I can't see that changing any time soon unless the funding arrangement changes or the route is adjusted.

Looks like route 60 is only a few trips short of meeting the high frequency definition (the 15 min freq doesn't quite extend until 7pm yet), so surely the next change will see those last handful of trips added to meet the definition and possible re-numbering to the 900-series family?

Another notable change in this lot is route 345 being upgraded to every 15 minutes for most of Saturdays.

Morley is starting to get some pretty decent coverage of high frequency services now. Routes 60 and 950 every 15 minutes or better during the day, everyday, and routes 345, 371 and 998/999 every 15 minutes during the day, Monday to Saturday.
The proposed upgrade to Route 60 virtually puts it in the same league as 507 in a way.

As for GEH getting a 900-series route, I suspect it may come as part of the Airport Line rationalisation.
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For comparison, here's the route 60 Sunday timetable from 15 years ago:
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Not only was Morley one of the last areas to move to a 15 minute weekday frequency but it was also one of the last to move on from the old Core Times timetable on Sunday, along with some of the inner north-west routes and most Joondalup Line feeders.

Also of note - these improvements are due to take place almost exactly 10 years after the Beaufort Street corridor was upgraded to run every 15 minutes on Sundays (on 14 August 2011) - which just about marked the turning point for all-week high frequency bus services in Perth.
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The only real high-frequency services on the network 15 years ago were the 106 (now 910), in addition to the original high-frequency services 920 and 940 (now 549 and 115 respectively).

A further comment on Beaufort Street; the popularity of this corridor today really goes to show what good frequency, and an ounce of priority (even half-baked Perth style where bus lanes become car parking off peak) can do for bus usage. It is a shame, really, that the rollout of additional bus priority measures elsewhere on the network has been so slow when the evidence in favour of their use can speak for itself.
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The 549 of late has seen some service cutbacks to avoid duplication with 530 between Freo and Spearwood.
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Also interesting 60 goes 15 min on Sunday. could this route be 9xx Series in the future if they upgrade some night frequency or if they upgrade to 9xx it will duplicate 950. Same with 371 will it convert to 9xx if they add more night service and sunday servive (371 alrady highest frequency for non city route in Northern Suburb feeder)

Also i was wondering what will happen to 955. Because this only route that 9xx which are not high frequency list. Will it convert to real high frequency in the future or replace number with 3xx).
Merc1107 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pmOr even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days
Was it already done before in 2015. but because it was just a trial it withdrawn in 2016. are you talking about caversham national park or caversham suburb?

Speaking of extension i was more thinking of 345 if the road between bennett springs dr and lumonius bvd build connection It can extend 345 to Dayton area or even some extension to Swan Valley West Swan near Winery place (This area has no bus on weekend. only odd 335). rather than caversham national park.

speaking of Frequency would that mean Morley had 15 min non city Service (371 & 345).
Traklink wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 pm
Merc1107 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Or even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days.
Maybe one for another thread but should the 353 be rerouted via the new Arthur Street bridge to replace the 340 entirely? Would improve frequencies in Caversham, eliminate the current 'weak' 340 terminus and also be a shorter route, saving a lot of km's that could be used to upgrade other routes such as the 955.

I am agree with you. I was thinking why was 353 made the route via 955 from Bassendean to Dayton. not via Lord street and Caversham like 340. Altone road already had good frequency surely it better to run via 340 (and provide weekend service there). However the downside of 353 merge with 340 is path gonna have 1 route deleted (because if 340 merge witbh 353 is not gonna be run by path but with SWan).


Speaking of High frequency that route like 555 and 588/589 count has HF route or not.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2021

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pasha241 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:16 pm Also interesting 60 goes 15 min on Sunday. could this route be 9xx Series in the future if they upgrade some night frequency or if they upgrade to 9xx it will duplicate 950. Same with 371 will it convert to 9xx if they add more night service and sunday servive (371 alrady highest frequency for non city route in Northern Suburb feeder)

Also i was wondering what will happen to 955. Because this only route that 9xx which are not high frequency list. Will it convert to real high frequency in the future or replace number with 3xx).
Merc1107 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pmOr even weekend service for Caversham, which is getting to be a pretty big suburb these days
Was it already done before in 2015. but because it was just a trial it withdrawn in 2016. are you talking about caversham national park or caversham suburb?

Speaking of extension i was more thinking of 345 if the road between bennett springs dr and lumonius bvd build connection It can extend 345 to Dayton area or even some extension to Swan Valley West Swan near Winery place (This area has no bus on weekend. only odd 335). rather than caversham national park.

speaking of Frequency would that mean Morley had 15 min non city Service (371 & 345).
Traklink wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 pm

Maybe one for another thread but should the 353 be rerouted via the new Arthur Street bridge to replace the 340 entirely? Would improve frequencies in Caversham, eliminate the current 'weak' 340 terminus and also be a shorter route, saving a lot of km's that could be used to upgrade other routes such as the 955.

I am agree with you. I was thinking why was 353 made the route via 955 from Bassendean to Dayton. not via Lord street and Caversham like 340. Altone road already had good frequency surely it better to run via 340 (and provide weekend service there). However the downside of 353 merge with 340 is path gonna have 1 route deleted (because if 340 merge witbh 353 is not gonna be run by path but with SWan).


Speaking of High frequency that route like 555 and 588/589 count has HF route or not.
Some 371 runs are only between Mirrabooka and Warwick, IIRC. They could convert 371 to 975 but 70% of trips may not go all the way to Morley, just as most 935 late night trips end at Belmont instead of Airport.

Also, the Perth and Peel @ 3.5m map shows a high frequency transit corridor cutting across Willetton and Lynwood areas, which immediately brings to mind the 507 route alignment.

At some point in future, Morley and Midland may come under the same operator. With Swan getting Joondalup they've effectively got over 50% of service mileage and may have to sit out of Canning/Southern River or Midland.
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