PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2021

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Post by Merc1107 »

Voith have a 5sp offering now too.

However, for inner city work particularly, 6 gears is overkill. More wear and tear, and as the box ages, more opportunities for jolts and jerks, particularly with the gear shift pattern most Volvos run. Some of the older Volvo ZF examples in the fleet are beginning to show their age, IMHO.
While the Voiths can have a savage retarder and like to try for higher gears sooner than they should in some circumstances, the DIWA gear (1st) is perfect for pulling away smoothly.
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Merc1107 wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:59 am Voith have a 5sp offering now too.

However, for inner city work particularly, 6 gears is overkill. More wear and tear, and as the box ages, more opportunities for jolts and jerks, particularly with the gear shift pattern most Volvos run. Some of the older Volvo ZF examples in the fleet are beginning to show their age, IMHO.
While the Voiths can have a savage retarder and like to try for higher gears sooner than they should in some circumstances, the DIWA gear (1st) is perfect for pulling away smoothly.
I have seen videos of ZF-fitted Scania KUBs in my hometown getting thrashed. Also, the Voith retarder sometimes sounds like a cat howling, especially on the NH.
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2789 and 2790 delivered to Welshpool
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Enviro 500 wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:55 am Is Voith still using 4 speeds? I know ZF has gone from 4 to 6.
ZF have had a 6 Speed offering since the early 2000's.

Both Voith and ZF boxes have their pros and cons. Having driven buses with both manufacturers products, I can say that they both have their positive and negative things about them. Personally I prefer ZF though.
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New artic 3113 delivered to, and seen in service out of Wangara this morning

2084 and 2086 back from refurb
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Enviro 500 wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:23 pm
Squiddy wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:38 pm 1626's rego now comes up as cancelled so it appears it's been withdrawn following its collision with a Horizons West bus back in March.
What of 2233? Same story?
It appears 2233 has been fully repaired, passed inspection and re-registered. Should be back on the road soon
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2087 has returned from refurb and is now in Rockingham
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Squiddy wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:09 pm 2087 has returned from refurb and is now in Rockingham
How many ex-Karrinyup OCs are now at Rockingham and which ones are their replacements?
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2087 and 2094-97 are at Rockingham which sent 2246-50 up to Karrinyup so far. I'd assume 2088-93 are in refurb hence they were skipped for now
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Well then, there go my very last chances of capturing pre-refurb 2090s! At least I get to look forward to trying to capture 2200s... alongside TP3237, as it was registered on Thursday.
I'd post any important, bus-related links I had, but they're outdated anyways.
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Not sure if this has already been asked or answered so my apologies but what’s the actual reason for the swap and how many more will be swapped over?


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On PerthNow it seems to imply that 3007 got stuck at a later roundabout in Leederville while on 15.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/disast ... 881912100z
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TP1462 wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:46 am Not sure if this has already been asked or answered so my apologies but what’s the actual reason for the swap and how many more will be swapped over?


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It has been asked and I believe the answer was that it's not for public discussion.
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Newbie 3238 sighted at Big Wheels Welshpool earlier this morning.
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1683 in its signature RACWA & 2023 are at southern river


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1683 may be on loan at a guess.

2019-2022 have returned to SR too I believe, along with 2023 joining them.

There's another unit on the back fence at SR with front end damage. I think it may be 1602, going by the position of the fleet numbers on the rear window (don't even bother asking how I know that).
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Officially the last person to tag off the 381 - 20/5/16.
Second last person to tag off the last timetabled 16 - 23/08/19.
Last person to tag off a Transdev Joondalup service - 19/1/20.
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Off The Rails wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:20 pm https://www.facebook.com/groups/perthtr ... 641136301/

Definitely 1602.

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Not sure if this counts here (feel free to move if needed), however, since about mid-June, the original 'Priority Seating' stickers have been gradually replaced with these:
I'll be honest, it's a bit wordy.
I'll be honest, it's a bit wordy.
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saw on perthbus.info is look like 3238 > and 2983 > will back to ZF. is look like the voith is just trial or it maybe use for future in 1 or 2 years (based on trial that happen with b8 in 2018 and 1662, 2244, 2314
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pasha241 wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:21 am Looks like the voith is just trial
Correct, those 6 B8RLE's were fitted with Voith gearboxes as part of a trial.
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1683 is back in beckenham depot including ex transbussleton 813
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Can confirm 1417 is indeed at Malaga, saw it doing a 41 this arvo.
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1418 is at Malaga too. The two new Voith B8s delivered to Welshpool contract displaced 1417/18 to Malaga which replaced 1859/60.
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Squiddy wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:24 am 1418 is at Malaga too. The two new Voith B8s delivered to Welshpool contract displaced 1417/18 to Malaga which replaced 1859/60.
same with Transdev. the new B8 delivery to Fremantle then displaced some 29xx B7 to Mandurah which replace early 22xx that went to swan. although i coukd be wrong
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