PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

[TP1462]

The change to create a 148 via Melville SHS is an interesting step, particularly given there is no mention of the existing extended 500 service being deleted. It presently connects with the 766 School Special (or is at least supposed to).

Prior to the changes that saw the 766 truncated to Booragoon, to connect with a 500 extending to Fremantle via the 158 route, the 766 used to travel from Melville SHS to Canning Hwy/Irwin St (the next stop after Stammers) via Potts St, L Leach Hwy, L North Lake Rd, R Hislop Rd, L Wichmann Rd, L Roberts Rd, L Moreing Rd, R Lutey St, L Stock Rd, R Canning Hwy. This old service seemed relatively busy, whereas the 500 only carries the odd student and worker from the shops. Perhaps this new 148, being a more direct service that does away with the transfer mid-journey will attract greater patronage.

I imagine the extra routes out of Cockburn will be welcomed, the only issue I can see is with added congestion around Cockburn Gateway. The placement of the stand for services inbound to Cockburn is inappropriate, and encourages just one bus to load/unload at a time. There is also the more general problem of congestion around the shopping centre - services outbound from Cockburn often experience heavy delays during peak periods due to the sheer volume of cars coming in and out of the area.

The new ANLRB should fix most of the congestion around Cockburn and gateways shopping centre and proposed stage II expansion I think a number of routes will be re-routed along the new bridge congestion has improved improved significantly with the freeway widening and new alignment. The 338 is an interesting one seems like a stop gap measure until the train line is operational my guess is it’ll extended to Whiteman Park station given Henley Brook bus station will be converted into a bus depot


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[Merc1107]

The new ANLRB should fix most of the congestion around Cockburn and gateways shopping centre and proposed stage II expansion I think a number of routes will be re-routed along the new bridge

ANLRB?

Know about the bridge they're doing - but from the 'artist's impression' I have seen, it looks as though bus access from the north end of Cockburn Central to North Lake Rd. will no longer be possible.

[Bus Suggestions]

ANLRB = Armadale-North Lake Rd Bridge (the bridge they're doing).

The design animation shows the current connection to North Lake Rd remaining, only modified to form the southern leg of the traffic light connecting North Lake Rd and the city-bound Kwinana Fwy on-ramp.

[Enviro 500]

I wonder which contract will 233 fall under. Canning or SR?

[pasha241]

Now i will comment my opinion about all these route

Route 523
For me is really good upgrade for Treeby area because now they had they own service. What i a bit disappointing is I prefer that these route is merge with 515. so From Berrigan Dr, Left Jandakot Rd, R Clementive Bvd then via 523 route. So that there are connection will Cockburn and Jandakot/Leeming and vice versa.

Route 544
Really good route. Although i am surprise that just now they planned to make the route because before i was thinking why does transperth not make a route for wellard and bertham are given there are a lot of house in there. Funny think these route was actually my plan for what i do for route change and the funny thing the number is same.

Route 338
I cannot comment about this because i am not familiar with the area but i think they should have new route also serving the vines.

Route 233
this is very good another cross suburban route I wounder will these route have some short service during peak period like 517 and 519. Also i think maybe good to consider route like 210 on Sunday and extend 517 to thornlie on sunday. also i wonder will 223 service connect with 519 at Piara waters to make passengers from Cockburn to Armadale more convenient.

[pasha241]

I wonder which contract will 233 fall under. Canning or SR?

probably SR given this route is 2xx not 5xx. Although i could be wrong. For the shift allocation i probably think it will Mix between CV/Beckenham/SR and maybe First shift to Gosnells will use CV. First shift to Cockburn will use SR bus and last bus to Gosnells will use SR, to Cockburn use CV bus.

[TP1462]

I wonder which contract will 233 fall under. Canning or SR?

probably SR given this route is 2xx not 5xx. Although i could be wrong. For the shift allocation i probably think it will Mix between CV/Beckenham/SR and maybe First shift to Gosnells will use CV. First shift to Cockburn will use SR bus and last bus to Gosnells will use SR, to Cockburn use CV bus.

It’ll be operated in similar fashion to the 519 and all the other Armadale- Mandurah cross suburban routes with buses provided by all available swan depots. The 523 is closer to CV from an operational standpoint however southern river will provide a bus where needed


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[Enviro 500]

The thing is Canning and SR have the highest level of cross deployment such that it appears that both are one area. More so than Claremont/Marmion (Cambridge Street services) and Marmion/Joondalup (Wanneroo Road services) and previously Midland/Kalamunda (Routes 36 and 294) and Kalamunda/Canning (South Perth, Curtin University services and Route 75).

[shinjiman]

Changes to 467 due to new intersection works being completed. From Whitfords, normal route to Ocean Reef Rd, then continue N along Wanneroo Rd, R East Rd, R Archer St, L Kemp St to resume normal route.

Routes 467 - Service Change

Sun 22 Nov
From Sunday 22 November, Route 467 will undergo a route change in Pearsall. This change is necessary due to recent changes made to the road network in the area.

There will be no change to the timetable and no stops currently being serviced will be missed.

However Route 467 will now service the following additional stops:

To Whitfords Station

12315 (Wanneroo Rd after East Rd)
22701 (Archer St before Amberley Wy)
28265 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).
From Whitfords Station

22700 (Archer St after Amberley Wy)
28264 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).

Due to the Wanneroo Road bridge over Ocean Reef Road road changes

As current there's still no sign for the new PDF timetable for the Bus Timetable 73, where it contains the routes 467 and 468.
(Update) the updated Bus Timetable 73 is now available dated 20/12/2020.

[shinjiman]

There's additional bus stops for the route 60 that's serving the Northbridge area on Newcastle Street and William Street. The stop on William Street southbound had the bus services resuming to pick up/drop off the passengers since the routes moved onto Beaufort Street (while the stop location had been moved about 30m towards South from 388 to 378 William).

Route 60 - New bus stops

Sun 29 Nov
From Sunday 29 November, four new bus stops will be added to Route 60 on William St and Newcastle St in Perth.

The new stops are:

• 10217 William St after Monger St
• 28178 Newcastle St before William St
• 28179 William St after Forbes Rd
• 28180 Newcastle St after Money St.

[Bus Suggestions]

A number of service cuts have been scheduled for December 20:

Routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 111 - Will operate fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers may consider Route 910.

Route 114 - Will operate fewer off-peak and Saturday trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers on Marmion St may consider catching Route 915
• Passengers on Rockingham Rd may consider catching routes 530, 531 and 549.

Route 158 - Will no longer operate off-peak and will now only run during weekday peak

• The off-peak services will be replaced by Route 148
• Passengers travelling to Perth who catch Route 148 will need to transfer at Canning Bridge Station to the train to Perth
• Peak services will continue to operate unchanged.

Route 160 - Will operate with fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

Route 548 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage

• Passengers may be able to catch Route 549 as an alternative for some journeys.

Route 549 - will operate with fewer trips due to poor patronage.

• Passengers travelling between Fremantle and Spearwood/Munster may consider catching Route 530 which runs along Rockingham Rd
• Route 549 has been timed to run in co-ordination with Route 530 minimising wait times in the area.

Routes 33, 284 and 935 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 33, 284 and 935.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 33 - Due to poor patronage and to remove duplication with Route 34 this service will no longer extend past Curtin Central Bus Station to Karawara

Passengers travelling to Karawara can consider the following alternatives:

• Route 34 which travels from Perth Busport/Elizabeth Quay Bus Station via the Narrows Bridge to Karawara operating via Walanna Dr.
• This service operates every 10-15 minutes and may provide the best alternative.
• Passengers can transfer to Route 34 at Curtin Central Bus Station
• Catching the Mandurah Line to Canning Bridge Station and transferring to routes 100 or 101 which run along Manning Rd.
• If you need to travel along St Georges Tce from Elizabeth Quay Bus Station you can catch any route from stands on D or E roads.

Route 284 - Due to poor patronage some off peak trips will be withdrawn

Route 935 - Some late night trips between Belmont Forum and Perth Airport will be withdrawn.

Routes 448, 483 and 484 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 448, 483 and 484.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

• Route 448 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Off peak frequency will be reduced to approximately every hour
• Route 483 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Most withdrawn trips will be travelling in the opposite direction to peak services
• Route 484 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage in the peak period.

I will be honest, I'm not quite sure why the 284 hasn't been replaced by other routes yet, particularly the 39 and 935.

[Merc1107]

Ouch. That said, 530s and 549s usually depart in tandem (or a minute or two apart) from Freo. Something was bound to be cut sooner or later, although I think more should be done to create a direct Freo-Cockburn link and tidy up the spaghetti-tangle of routes in the area.

[the c man]

A number of service cuts have been scheduled for December 20:

Routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 111 - Will operate fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers may consider Route 910.

Route 114 - Will operate fewer off-peak and Saturday trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers on Marmion St may consider catching Route 915
• Passengers on Rockingham Rd may consider catching routes 530, 531 and 549.

Route 158 - Will no longer operate off-peak and will now only run during weekday peak

• The off-peak services will be replaced by Route 148
• Passengers travelling to Perth who catch Route 148 will need to transfer at Canning Bridge Station to the train to Perth
• Peak services will continue to operate unchanged.

Route 160 - Will operate with fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

Route 548 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage

• Passengers may be able to catch Route 549 as an alternative for some journeys.

Route 549 - will operate with fewer trips due to poor patronage.

• Passengers travelling between Fremantle and Spearwood/Munster may consider catching Route 530 which runs along Rockingham Rd
• Route 549 has been timed to run in co-ordination with Route 530 minimising wait times in the area.

Routes 33, 284 and 935 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 33, 284 and 935.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 33 - Due to poor patronage and to remove duplication with Route 34 this service will no longer extend past Curtin Central Bus Station to Karawara

Passengers travelling to Karawara can consider the following alternatives:

• Route 34 which travels from Perth Busport/Elizabeth Quay Bus Station via the Narrows Bridge to Karawara operating via Walanna Dr.
• This service operates every 10-15 minutes and may provide the best alternative.
• Passengers can transfer to Route 34 at Curtin Central Bus Station
• Catching the Mandurah Line to Canning Bridge Station and transferring to routes 100 or 101 which run along Manning Rd.
• If you need to travel along St Georges Tce from Elizabeth Quay Bus Station you can catch any route from stands on D or E roads.

Route 284 - Due to poor patronage some off peak trips will be withdrawn

Route 935 - Some late night trips between Belmont Forum and Perth Airport will be withdrawn.

Routes 448, 483 and 484 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 448, 483 and 484.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

• Route 448 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Off peak frequency will be reduced to approximately every hour
• Route 483 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Most withdrawn trips will be travelling in the opposite direction to peak services
• Route 484 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage in the peak period.

I will be honest, I'm not quite sure why the 284 hasn't been replaced by other routes yet, particularly the 39 and 935.

In this day in age I honestly don't see why we need 60 wait time for a particular bus service, 30min is amble, but 60min wait there's no need for it

[Enviro 500]

Wasn't 448 only introduced less than a year ago?

As for 549, it used to be high frequency in the olden days and still remained so for a number of years after the opening of the Mandurah line. Coordinating 530 with 549 obviously involves two contract areas.

[Bus Suggestions]

Wasn't 448 only introduced less than a year ago?

Yes, only on the 8th of March this year. I see why patronage is flailing a little, it's much more useful for someone near Newpark Shopping Ctr to catch a bus into Perth - if they need to get to Warwick, the 344 is an option, as is catching what would've been the 386, then transferring to the 449. As for Kingsway passengers going to Warwick, the 450 was an option...

[Mr OC Benz]

Route 448 was originally proposed to operate hourly but feedback from consultation resulted in weekday off-peak operating a 30 min frequency instead. Clearly the PTA have been waiting for sufficient time to see whether the 30 min freq could be justified or not. Clearly not.

[shinjiman]

Just listing the list of the timetable changes below.

A number of service cuts have been scheduled for December 20:

Routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 111, 114, 158, 160, 548 and 549.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 111 - Will operate fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers may consider Route 910.

Route 114 - Will operate fewer off-peak and Saturday trips due to poor patronage

• Passengers on Marmion St may consider catching Route 915
• Passengers on Rockingham Rd may consider catching routes 530, 531 and 549.

Route 158 - Will no longer operate off-peak and will now only run during weekday peak

• The off-peak services will be replaced by Route 148
• Passengers travelling to Perth who catch Route 148 will need to transfer at Canning Bridge Station to the train to Perth
• Peak services will continue to operate unchanged.

Route 160 - Will operate with fewer off-peak trips due to poor patronage

Route 548 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage

• Passengers may be able to catch Route 549 as an alternative for some journeys.

Route 549 - will operate with fewer trips due to poor patronage.

• Passengers travelling between Fremantle and Spearwood/Munster may consider catching Route 530 which runs along Rockingham Rd
• Route 549 has been timed to run in co-ordination with Route 530 minimising wait times in the area.

Routes 33, 284 and 935 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 33, 284 and 935.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

Route 33 - Due to poor patronage and to remove duplication with Route 34 this service will no longer extend past Curtin Central Bus Station to Karawara

Passengers travelling to Karawara can consider the following alternatives:

• Route 34 which travels from Perth Busport/Elizabeth Quay Bus Station via the Narrows Bridge to Karawara operating via Walanna Dr.
• This service operates every 10-15 minutes and may provide the best alternative.
• Passengers can transfer to Route 34 at Curtin Central Bus Station
• Catching the Mandurah Line to Canning Bridge Station and transferring to routes 100 or 101 which run along Manning Rd.
• If you need to travel along St Georges Tce from Elizabeth Quay Bus Station you can catch any route from stands on D or E roads.

Route 284 - Due to poor patronage some off peak trips will be withdrawn

Route 935 - Some late night trips between Belmont Forum and Perth Airport will be withdrawn.

Routes 448, 483 and 484 - Service Changes
Sun 20 Dec
To more efficiently deliver services across the broader Transperth network there will be changes to routes 448, 483 and 484.

Services will undergo changes as follows:

• Route 448 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Off peak frequency will be reduced to approximately every hour
• Route 483 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage. Most withdrawn trips will be travelling in the opposite direction to peak services
• Route 484 - Some trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage in the peak period.

I will be honest, I'm not quite sure why the 284 hasn't been replaced by other routes yet, particularly the 39 and 935.

Timetables updated:

• Bus Timetable 16
• Bus Timetable 34, 39
• Bus Timetable 73*, 78, 80
• Bus Timetable 90
• Bus Timetable 118, 125, 126

* The time listed in the Bus Timetable 73 was actually implemented on 22 November 2020.

[pasha241]

they should also retime to make coordination of 114, 115, 160 between booragoon to elizabeth quay.

so the frequency will be

Weekday: Every 15/8 Min
Weekend: Every 15 min. 115 then 114 then 115 then 160.

because now i saw on timetable 114 is depart 3 min earlier than 160 at booragoon to city bound when these route only 1 hour frequency. these route should have re coordinate to make 30 min.

[Merc1107]

While I agree with you, Pasha, it was fairly close to even headways for the last 2yrs since the 115 was made all-stops. In spite of that, the numbers on those trips aren't terribly great; not helped by the 115s habit of rarely running close to on-time and thus being caught up to by an empty 114...

[shinjiman]

Just saw from the Transperth website, there's some route changes for the route 48 short trips between Bayswater and Morley.

The terminus of the Bayswater Station had been switched from Whatley Crescent [16547] to Railway Parade [28259/T trips][28260/F trips] from 3 January 2021.

Route 48 and train replacement Route 901 - Route Change

Sun 03 Jan
From Sunday 3 January, Route 48 trips that start or finish their trip in Bayswater will undergo a minor route change in order to facilitate works on the New Bayswater Station Project. There will be no changes to full length Route 48 trips that travel between Perth and Morley.

There will also be a change to the stops used by train replacement Route 901.

These Route 48 trips, as well as train replacement Route 901, will no longer service Stop 16547 (Whatley Cr at Bayswater Station).

The nearest alternative bus stops will be:

For Route 48

• 28259 (Railway Pde after Mills Av) - to Avenell Rd/Raleight Rd
• 28260 (Railway Pde before Coode St) - To Morley.

For train replacement Route 901

• 28259 (Railway Pde after Mills Av) - To Midland
• 28260 (Railway Pde before Coode St) - To Perth.

Timetables updated:

• Bus Timetable 103

[Transperthpaperbus]

Just saw from the Transperth website, there's some route changes for the route 48 short trips between Bayswater and Morley.

The terminus of the Bayswater Station had been switched from Whatley Crescent [16547] to Railway Parade [28259/T trips][28260/F trips] from 3 January 2021.

Timetables updated:

• Bus Timetable 103

Probably for the work on Bayswater Station as part of the metronet project.

[busdriver12]

In this day in age I honestly don't see why we need 60 wait time for a particular bus service, 30min is amble, but 60min wait there's no need for it

Try waiting for a 254 in Byford on a Sunday - runs every 2 hours!

[busdriver12]

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Cannot delete own posts...

[busdriver12]

Just listing the list of the timetable changes below.

Timetables updated:
[...]

Also,

Bus Timetable 209

[wachris]

Don't know how to start a new thread for 2021 sorry

https://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Servic ... ork-163574