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Enviro 500 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:46 pm 2482 originally from which depot? I know 2812 was with SP.

Could the transfer of 2096 and 2097 have something to do with the influx of B8s in the Marmion region? A shiny new B8 was photographed on 990 lately.
Those B8s are all killing off NHs. On that same note, shiny newbie 2897 spotted out and about today.
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AFAIK 2096 and 2097 moving probably don't have much to do with the new B8s. All the OCs are Karrinyup buses, while the B8s are replacing Beenyup NHs. However, there could be some shifts changing about allowing more Beenyup and Joondalup runs replacing Karrinyup runs and indirectly freeing up 2 OCs. My morning 387 used to be a Karrinyup shift, it has since become a Beenyup shift, as well as some other Warwick and Stirling oriented trips I've seen.
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Word on the street is that SR may be down a couple of buses, hence 2448 also being there. Could explain 2096 and 2097.

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Bus-1809 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:14 amWord on the street is that SR may be down a couple of buses, hence 2448 also being there.
Ah 2448, i saw it a few days ago doing a 232 on my home from school.
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:13 am AFAIK 2096 and 2097 moving probably don't have much to do with the new B8s. All the OCs are Karrinyup buses, while the B8s are replacing Beenyup NHs. However, there could be some shifts changing about allowing more Beenyup and Joondalup runs replacing Karrinyup runs and indirectly freeing up 2 OCs. My morning 387 used to be a Karrinyup shift, it has since become a Beenyup shift, as well as some other Warwick and Stirling oriented trips I've seen.
i think is more related to when the 201x move back to karrinyup from SR. so the result make SR down a couple of bus and usually if SR may couble down of bus they send some nh temporary but is not. I wonder will some 3200 deliver to SR because now 2448 already there.

I think now karrinyup shift is a reduce quite long time. because when i went to whitfords last year i rarely seen beenyup bus while for scarborough (near karrinyup) there are some beenyup which look like there are more beenyup shift than karrinyup.

also if i shift organizer for SWAn, i would try to organize shift from that route to closest depot. (eg: Cambridge st feeders i probably replace as much the beenyup shift and some karrinyup shift to Mt Claremont/Shenton Park Shift (like on the weekend).

While for 384/970, Also i would also replace a lot of joondalup shift in there and replace with more wangara shift or even karrinyup in there. The joondalup shift i would move to Warwick feeder, Stirling feeder and 387/388 and 389.

the problem is beenyup is too close with joondalup.

Also is someone know ratio between Malaga and bayswater shift on circle route. Is it 5050 or is more bayswater shift in there. Because i remember before 2016, path circle all run by malaga and i hear that in 2018 that they plan to reduce a lof morley shift on circle route and replace more by bayswater shift.
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2096 and 2097 are permanent transfers to Gosnells as 1597 and 1598 have been written off in an accident.
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2097 out and about today seen arriving at Kelmscott on a 244 are 2096/97 on loan or permanent transfer?
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TP1462 wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:26 pm 2097 out and about today seen arriving at Kelmscott on a 244 are 2096/97 on loan or permanent transfer?
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What accident were 1597 and 1598 involved in? I don't recall any coverage of it.
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:59 pm What accident were 1597 and 1598 involved in? I don't recall any coverage of it.
Yeah man. The last accident I'm aware of was 1298 and the last fire I read about was 109.

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pasha241 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:30 am
Bus Suggestions wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:13 am AFAIK 2096 and 2097 moving probably don't have much to do with the new B8s. All the OCs are Karrinyup buses, while the B8s are replacing Beenyup NHs. However, there could be some shifts changing about allowing more Beenyup and Joondalup runs replacing Karrinyup runs and indirectly freeing up 2 OCs. My morning 387 used to be a Karrinyup shift, it has since become a Beenyup shift, as well as some other Warwick and Stirling oriented trips I've seen.
i think is more related to when the 201x move back to karrinyup from SR. so the result make SR down a couple of bus and usually if SR may couble down of bus they send some nh temporary but is not. I wonder will some 3200 deliver to SR because now 2448 already there.

I think now karrinyup shift is a reduce quite long time. because when i went to whitfords last year i rarely seen beenyup bus while for scarborough (near karrinyup) there are some beenyup which look like there are more beenyup shift than karrinyup.

also if i shift organizer for SWAn, i would try to organize shift from that route to closest depot. (eg: Cambridge st feeders i probably replace as much the beenyup shift and some karrinyup shift to Mt Claremont/Shenton Park Shift (like on the weekend).

While for 384/970, Also i would also replace a lot of joondalup shift in there and replace with more wangara shift or even karrinyup in there. The joondalup shift i would move to Warwick feeder, Stirling feeder and 387/388 and 389.

the problem is beenyup is too close with joondalup.

Also is someone know ratio between Malaga and bayswater shift on circle route. Is it 5050 or is more bayswater shift in there. Because i remember before 2016, path circle all run by malaga and i hear that in 2018 that they plan to reduce a lof morley shift on circle route and replace more by bayswater shift.
Beenyup was constructed when Joondalup area was still run by Transdev. Even the location of Beenyup Depot is inside Joondalup area.
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Is 2126 an Ellenbrook/Midland bus? was sighted running out of service along Gnangara road/Tonkin highway
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TP1462 wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 pm Is 2126 an Ellenbrook/Midland bus? was sighted running out of service along Gnangara road/Tonkin highway
Wangara bus, probably on its way to/from Ellenbrook for 654s given Stadium services were on today
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:59 pm What accident were 1597 and 1598 involved in? I don't recall any coverage of it.
Not all accidents are covered by the media etc. 1597 is parked on the back fence at SR, next to 1593, with its front end caved in. 1598 is elsewhere off site. I understand however, that the 2 buses were not at fault.
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1593 was infamous for getting hit by a train.

Did 1597 and 1598 hit each other by any chance? Both of them getting written off together leaves Swan with just 4 OC Midis now (1594-6, 1599).
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Enviro 500 wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:21 pm Both of them getting written off together leaves Swan with just 4 OC Midis now (1594-6, 1599).
1599's not a midi
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Enviro 500 wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:21 pm 1593 was infamous for getting hit by a train.

Did 1597 and 1598 hit each other by any chance? Both of them getting written off together leaves Swan with just 4 OC Midis now (1594-6, 1599).
The answer to that is in my post above (ie not responsible for the accident).

1599 is an LWB by the way
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2026, 27 and 28 are back at Karrinyup from refurb.
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Bus-1809 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:17 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:21 pm 1593 was infamous for getting hit by a train.

Did 1597 and 1598 hit each other by any chance? Both of them getting written off together leaves Swan with just 4 OC Midis now (1594-6, 1599).
The answer to that is in my post above (ie not responsible for the accident).

1599 is an LWB by the way
I stand corrected.

Did both accidents happen during the same period as both vehicles were written off on the same day?

Also, at the back of Malaga Depot visible from Victoria Road is a vehicle covered in a tarpaulin. Could that be the remains of 0109?
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Enviro 500 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:31 pmI stand corrected.

Did both accidents happen during the same period as both vehicles were written off on the same day?

Also, at the back of Malaga Depot visible from Victoria Road is a vehicle covered in a tarpaulin. Could that be the remains of 0109?
Sorry, probably should clarify, they were both involved in the same accident but neither bus was at fault, is my understanding.

I'd say that would be 0109.
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In Welshpool this morning, looks weird seeing rigids with 3xxx fleet numbers!
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Also, note this one doesn't have those wheel nut covers fitted on the front wheels. Wonder if that's a thing they're doing now or if they'll be fitted at a later date?
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Ah, 3200. With my luck so far I may be able to ride it in a few days time. Going to be odd hopping onto a non-artic 3000-series.
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Squiddy wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:46 pm

Also, note this one doesn't have those wheel nut covers fitted on the front wheels. Wonder if that's a thing they're doing now or if they'll be fitted at a later date?
Said things are known as "Dress Rims". Probably be fitted before it gets delivered.
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Squiddy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:50 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:21 pm Both of them getting written off together leaves Swan with just 4 OC Midis now (1594-6, 1599).
1599's not a midi
1599 and along with 1600 is a rigid but does not have the side hatch windows like the midi's for anyone wondering.
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Bus-1809 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:31 pmI stand corrected.

Did both accidents happen during the same period as both vehicles were written off on the same day?

Also, at the back of Malaga Depot visible from Victoria Road is a vehicle covered in a tarpaulin. Could that be the remains of 0109?
Sorry, probably should clarify, they were both involved in the same accident but neither bus was at fault, is my understanding.

I'd say that would be 0109.
Same accident? Must have been hit by the same vehicle or a pile up.

Anyway, are dress rims off the menu now?
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