Transperth Train happenings

the c man · Post by **the c man** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:21 pm

Set 45 return to traffic today and is working mandurah and butler lines coupled with 28. 47 is now in refurb.

kaplan_thornhill · Post by **kaplan_thornhill** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:28 pm

TP1462 wrote:
Shoudy Chen wrote:Building this stowage road would mean that there will be some disruptions to Armadale/Thornlie Services. Clearly I think it will take time to construct this.
It clearly states that the stow roads will be constructed over a 12 month period with little disruption to commuters with the standard night and weekend closures as per usual, this stow road or siding will be the same as all the others on the network, would also probably increase the reliability and operational flexibility of the Armadale/Thornlie line, construction work has already started with a temporary speed restriction in place.

There's no current TSR in that area.

KT

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:30 pm

kaplan_thornhill wrote:
TP1462 wrote: It clearly states that the stow roads will be constructed over a 12 month period with little disruption to commuters with the standard night and weekend closures as per usual, this stow road or siding will be the same as all the others on the network, would also probably increase the reliability and operational flexibility of the Armadale/Thornlie line, construction work has already started with a temporary speed restriction in place.
There's no current TSR in that area.

KT

Then why are trains going slow through Vic Park then?

kaplan_thornhill · Post by **kaplan_thornhill** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:38 pm

I have no idea. Could be chasing yellows, running ahead of table, different crew. Worked through there earlier today at track speed.

KT

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:31 pm

kaplan_thornhill wrote:I have no idea. Could be chasing yellows, running ahead of table, different crew. Worked through there earlier today at track speed.

KT

Okay thanks mate, do you know what's up with the TSR at Welshpool road?

busdriver12 · Post by **busdriver12** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:06 pm

Would also be interested as to why the speed restriction is still in place at the Wharf St crossing. I recall this going into place when Queens Pk station was being upgraded. I've noticed C pattern trains to Perth have to wait until they are clear of the crossing before accellerating.

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:42 pm

Set 110 testing on the Mandurah line, just left Murdoch station

Shoudy Chen · Post by **Shoudy Chen** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:17 am

When I was on the train from Oats St Eastbound, the train started to decelerate as it approached the Welshpool Station although it runs on a C pattern. Possibly this kind of scenario maybe that there is a speed restriction between Oats St and Welshpool Stations during non-stop. During the continuation from Maddington to Gosnells, the train decelerates gradually as it was about to come to a bend. The trains speed as it comes to a bend is about 68km/h. Trains approaching greater bends should have a speed restriction of up to 70km/h.
As I was going westbound from Cannington all the way to Oats St on a C-pattern, the train was going at around about 50km/h when this approached the Wharf St. After the train passed the Wharf St, the train then sped up at 100km/h. The train then passed the Welshpool Station and the speed gradually lowers to around about 40km/h. I don't know how do trains go slow by the looks of it. Possibly the Train Speed Restrictions applied in this place.

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:49 am

Shoudy Chen wrote:When I was on the train from Oats St Eastbound, the train started to decelerate as it approached the Welshpool Station although it runs on a C pattern. Possibly this kind of scenario maybe that there is a speed restriction between Oats St and Welshpool Stations during non-stop. During the continuation from Maddington to Gosnells, the train decelerates gradually as it was about to come to a bend. The trains speed as it comes to a bend is about 68km/h. Trains approaching greater bends should have a speed restriction of up to 70km/h.
As I was going westbound from Cannington all the way to Oats St on a C-pattern, the train was going at around about 50km/h when this approached the Wharf St. After the train passed the Wharf St, the train then sped up at 100km/h. The train then passed the Welshpool Station and the speed gradually lowers to around about 40km/h. I don't know how do trains go slow by the looks of it. Possibly the Train Speed Restrictions applied in this place.

Yes their is a TSR at Welshpool road, although not sure on the reason why thought it maybe something to do with grade seperation however haven't managed anything on it, no idea why the other TSR is still there at Wharf street and the trains can't go at speed through curves I think the speed limit for curves on the network is 70km/h

kaplan_thornhill · Post by **kaplan_thornhill** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:38 am

TSRs on the Armdale line at the moment:

1. Down main, prior to McIver platform two until after signal 229, 40k/h due to weld defect.

2. Up and down mains, after Oats Street crossing until Welshpool Road crossing, 40km/h due to track condition.

3. Down main, prior to Queens Park platform until Wharf Street crossing, 40km/h due to track condition.

Remember you can't resume track speed until your whole consist is past the end sign. At Wharf Street on the down, for example, you should not be accelerating out of the 40 restriction until you are clear of the crossing (the end sign is prior to the crossing).

The Wharf Street level crossing TSR was lifted a few months ago.

The speed limit on curves vary through out the network.

We don't always travel at track speed for many reasons. Heat restrictions, chasing yellow/red signals due to delays, CANs (conditionins affecting network), TSRs, track faults... list is endless.

KT

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:21 pm

kaplan_thornhill wrote:TSRs on the Armdale line at the moment:

1. Down main, prior to McIver platform two until after signal 229, 40k/h due to weld defect.

2. Up and down mains, after Oats Street crossing until Welshpool Road crossing, 40km/h due to track condition.

3. Down main, prior to Queens Park platform until Wharf Street crossing, 40km/h due to track condition.

Remember you can't resume track speed until your whole consist is past the end sign. At Wharf Street on the down, for example, you should not be accelerating out of the 40 restriction until you are clear of the crossing (the end sign is prior to the crossing).

The Wharf Street level crossing TSR was lifted a few months ago.

The speed limit on curves vary through out the network.

We don't always travel at track speed for many reasons. Heat restrictions, chasing yellow/red signals due to delays, CANs (conditionins affecting network), TSRs, track faults... list is endless.

KT

Cheers for the correction KT

Shoudy Chen · Post by **Shoudy Chen** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:40 pm

A few months ago, I hopped on the train from Armadale Stn and as it took off, the speed is very slow due to the specific type of conditions near Forrest Rd and Armadale Rd crossings. It normally drives up to around about 30km/h as it accelerates from Armadale Station. Between Sherwood and Challis Stations, speed restrictions have applied into place due to big bends.
Trains need to sound the horn as it approaches Kelmscott Station. This is the fact that there are crossings inside the Kelmscott Station.

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:59 pm

Sets 104/111/112 at Nowergup RCD

ozi_mister_d · Post by **ozi_mister_d** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:56 pm

kaplan_thornhill wrote:
We don't always travel at track speed for many reasons. Heat restrictions, chasing yellow/red signals due to delays, CANs (conditionins affecting network), TSRs, track faults... list is endless.
KT

well. I have learnt something now, that I had never considered as a passanger... thanks for the ops snippet, KT

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:52 pm

Butler C running express from Whitfords to Butler

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:05 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lGnotmcwLaM

B series set 113 on its way to Perth on the back of 2BW4

shinjiman · Post by **shinjiman** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:12 am

TP1462 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lGnotmcwLaM

B series set 113 on its way to Perth on the back of 2BW4

How they transfer those railcars as those in Sydney are using the standard gauge and the rail in Perth are using the narrow gauge?

Off The Rails · Post by **Off The Rails** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:11 am

Temporary bogies which are standard gauge are fitted for the journey between QLD and Perth, with the proper bogies only a few carriages back. They get swapped around at Midland Workshops.

Cheers!

Lt. Commander Data · Post by **Lt. Commander Data** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:02 am

Okay everyone, this might sound like a obvious question but is Perth on narrow gauge?

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:09 pm

Lt. Commander Data wrote:Okay everyone, this might sound like a obvious question but is Perth on narrow gauge?

Yes

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:18 pm

A series sets 17/48 just left Perth underground for Mandurah on a test run

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:52 pm

B series set 111 is also testing along the line along with A series series sets 17/48

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:33 pm

B series set 111 is out of service testing on the Midland line

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:16 pm

TP1462 wrote:B series set 111 is out of service testing on the Midland line

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:18 pm

3FC2 through Success Hill station 4car Australind DMU following Wheel lathe at Forrestfield