Disappointing to see, but the subsidy level is quite shocking. However, now many of these communities will be left without public transport - notably Collie. Is there a private service servicing Collie?Poor patronage prompts cancellation of six bus routes 17/09/2013
Six Transwa regional bus routes will stop operating on December 30 due to consistently poor patronage.
Public Transport Authority spokesman David Hynes said the routes, three of which are regular services, and three of which operate on demand were heavily subsidised.
“The last of these services will run on December 27 - there simply isn’t the demand to justify retaining them,” he said.
Transwa’s road coach services carried 208,954 passengers for 2012/13 at a net average subsidy cost (operating expenses less revenue) of $19.06 per passenger.
“Cutting these services will save the taxpayer more than half a million dollars every year.”
“The on-demand services are operated for us by charter companies and only when passengers make a booking. On average each is carrying fewer than three passengers per journey.”
The charter services are:
Boxwood Hill to Bremer Bay: 33 passengers were carried in 2013/13 with a subsidy cost of $117.78 per passenger.
Hopetoun to Ravensthorpe: 369 passengers were carried in 2012/13 with a subsidy cost of $97.02 per passenger.
Quairading to Narembeen: 163 passengers were carried in 2012/13 with a subsidy cost of $129.06 per passenger.
The regular services are:
Albany to Ravensthorpe: 1,203 passengers were carried in 2012/13 with a subsidy cost of $163.75 per passenger.
Northam to Mukinbudin: 645 passengers were carried in 2012/13 with a subsidy cost of $152.96 per passenger.
Bunbury to Collie to Boyup Brook: 3,768 passengers were carried in 2012/13 with a subsidy cost of $52.07 per passenger.
http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?id=1130&tabid=121
Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
There was, but the PTA made it a school bus service.
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They should tender the whole lot out and be done with it.
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Absolutely not!
The last thing we need is another government operated service, privatised and split into contract areas...
It'll be the Trains next
The last thing we need is another government operated service, privatised and split into contract areas...
It'll be the Trains next
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Trains and Transwa should be privatised ASAP.
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TransWA and Transperth Trains should NEVER be privatised Transperth should never have been privatised either! We wouldn't have half the problems we have now if Transperth was still operated by the Government. Some services should never be privatised under any circumstances...
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
Only the true non progressives in society believe that.
Governments are mostly incompetent at running services efficiently and also tend to allow the lunatics to run the asylum as we have seen with so many public sector unions in this country. Which one are you a stooge for?
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
Not quite true. SWCL still operate a weekday coach service from and to collie connecting with coaches to Perth in Bunbury, as they also do to Manjimup and Augusta. It is Boyup Brook that misses out, with those passengers meant to somehow make their way to Bridgetown I suppose.mrobsessed wrote:There was, but the PTA made it a school bus service.
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Word is in the papers this week that the Monday and Wednesday Perth to Pemberton services will be routed via Collie and Boyup Brook. The returns the following day will follow the same route. Sunday and Monday will stay as is. Also noted is that this service will have a connection with the Australind. Would be interesting so see the proposed timetable.
I had thought of a shuttle service between Boyup Brook and Bridgetown connecting with the daily Albany to Bunbury might work, and result in less travel time.
As this does not involve a green and silver bus I don't expect much intrest on this board.
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I had thought of a shuttle service between Boyup Brook and Bridgetown connecting with the daily Albany to Bunbury might work, and result in less travel time.
As this does not involve a green and silver bus I don't expect much intrest on this board.
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
I Just moved to Collie last September (2013) to find out not long after that the almost daily service operated by Southwest Coach lines on Behalf of Transwa was going to be cancelled with the last service departing on Friday 30th of December and I like alot of the town were not happy about it!,After the Local member of Parliament and locals signed a petition that was handed into Parliament in Perth they decided to run the Pemberton to Perth service twice weekly via Boyup brook and Collie,now we get a service to Perth on Tuesdays and Thursdays and returning Mondays and Wednesdays. This still leaves Collie without a bus service to Bunbury on weekends as southwest coach lines only operates on Weekdays. What Annoys me (and im sure others) is that Veolia being the contracted company running Bunburys local bus network cant run a bus Between Collie and Bunbury a couple of times a day so that people like myself who dont drive can work and shop and attend appointments in Bunbury instead of having to pay $115 one way for a taxi or getting a friend or neighbor to drive all the way there and back. The morning Southwest bus and the returning service dont have many people who travel on it and im sure it is in part due to the poor timetable they have, Veolia run their Bunbury buses here but only for school special services so why cant the public get theirs to use?,Surely it would make more sense and be cheaper for Veolia to Run a public bus and not a coach that has a hand full of passengers on it each day ???,And I thought Collie was supposed to be a Super town?
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Hi Scott
First of all, the modification to the Pemberton service twice a week is obviously just designed to allow them to say there is still a service, it does not have to be well patronised as this is then cause to cancel it completely. The SWCL service is designed to ferry TAFE/UNI students to their studies for the day as this attracts some subsidy to allow the service to run. The side benefit of the timing is that it connects with their coach to Perth each way. No comparisons can be drawn between a government funded city route bus service and a privately operated coach service, regardless of who operates them.
I suggest that only further noise in the appropriate ears will change anything... unlikely as it is...
Aaron.
First of all, the modification to the Pemberton service twice a week is obviously just designed to allow them to say there is still a service, it does not have to be well patronised as this is then cause to cancel it completely. The SWCL service is designed to ferry TAFE/UNI students to their studies for the day as this attracts some subsidy to allow the service to run. The side benefit of the timing is that it connects with their coach to Perth each way. No comparisons can be drawn between a government funded city route bus service and a privately operated coach service, regardless of who operates them.
I suggest that only further noise in the appropriate ears will change anything... unlikely as it is...
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Albany - Ravensthorpe - Hopetoun will be reinstated from 2nd July as a weekly service, leaving Albany on Wednesday and returning on Thursday
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So people in Hopetoun have to stay nearly a whole week in Albany if they want to do major shopping... Kind of sucks for them.
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
New East Perth to Geraldton via Jurien Bay service announced commencing August 1st. Timetable available on the Transwa website.
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Competition with Integrity now???
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Transwa news article.kaplan_thornhill wrote:New East Perth to Geraldton via Jurien Bay service announced commencing August 1st. Timetable available on the Transwa website.
I don't really think that there's much competition. Transwa has the far better service, as it runs in the daytime, not in the middle of the night. That said, Integrity have a higher weekly frequency, but then again, who wants to get on a bus to Perth (from the Leeman Roadhouse) at 3am and return (on another day) at 1:30am?
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Patronage on the Australind rail service has continued to fall over the last financial year. Patronage is down almost one-third since 2006-2007.
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Not really a surprise... They knew that the Perth-Bunbury Highway would have an impact on patronage. It has made the train a far less competitive option, even the coach is faster!
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
Hi Aaron!,I understand that the government subserdise school services from Collie to Bunbury but are you sure they do this for the 730am Southwest service from Collie to Bunbury?,the reason I ask is that on every occasion that I have traveled on this service I have seen only 1 (and just a guess but I think by the look of him he is a teacher and not a student) get on the bus.iIt may just be me but i tend to think if the government are subsidizing the 730am service for one person to get to Tafe each day then why would they cut the Transwa Services that ran from Collie To Brunswick Junction 6 times weekly due to Lack of passenger numbers?
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Hi again Scott
I think the answer has a lot to do with not having to bear the whole cost of the service, only part of it.
BTW does anyone here know about Swan transit winning the Bunbury/Busselton town service contract? They are in town and due to start Jan 1.
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I think the answer has a lot to do with not having to bear the whole cost of the service, only part of it.
BTW does anyone here know about Swan transit winning the Bunbury/Busselton town service contract? They are in town and due to start Jan 1.
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Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
azz419 wrote:Hi again Scott
I think the answer has a lot to do with not having to bear the whole cost of the service, only part of it.
BTW does anyone here know about Swan transit winning the Bunbury/Busselton town service contract? They are in town and due to start Jan 1.
Azz
Yes swan have the combined Bunbury/Busselton contract.
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It's not a combined contract. Busselton and Busselton-Dunsborough contracts under the TransBusselton brand have been consolidated into one. Bunbury is a different contract again.
Re: Transwa to cancel six bus routes owing to poor patronage
Actually in no way was I wrong, combine is an appropriate synonym which has the same definition as consolidateMr OC Benz wrote:It's not a combined contract. Busselton and Busselton-Dunsborough contracts under the TransBusselton brand have been consolidated into one. Bunbury is a different contract again.
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I believe OC is talking about you saying the separate Bunbury and Busselton contracts have both been combined together, which logically would never happen.TP1462 wrote:Actually in no way was I wrong, combine is an appropriate synonym which has the same definition as consolidateMr OC Benz wrote:It's not a combined contract. Busselton and Busselton-Dunsborough contracts under the TransBusselton brand have been consolidated into one. Bunbury is a different contract again.
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