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Squiddy wrote:Surely they'd block off a lane (or emergency lane) for use as a dedicated busway in peak hour at least? If these buses (which would have to run every 60 seconds or so in peak at least) have to sit in peak-hour traffic like everyone else then this closure is gonna be dead in the water.

Especially given all the work in the last couple years to make the freeway 3-4 lanes all the way from Aubin Grove
The smart freeway does allow for this however the buses would have to run express to the city on the inside lane, an express across to Armadale & Fremantle stations could help spread the load


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A part of me wonders whether they'll bring back some of the old routes that used to exist before the Mandurah line was finished.

I remember I used to catch the 740 bus to Perth before the Mandurah line was finished, I think they could bring back those bus routes temporarily.

I'm sure there are other routes that were made redundant by the Mandurah line that could come back temporarily, seems like a better idea than shuttling people to an unused train station, just to catch another bus.
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LawBayly wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:39 pm A part of me wonders whether they'll bring back some of the old routes that used to exist before the Mandurah line was finished.

I remember I used to catch the 740 bus to Perth before the Mandurah line was finished, I think they could bring back those bus routes temporarily.

I'm sure there are other routes that were made redundant by the Mandurah line that could come back temporarily, seems like a better idea than shuttling people to an unused train station, just to catch another bus.
i think is good idea however the problem will be the bus availability from the depo because if i not wrong a lot of route in that time not had a good frequency as now and sometimes it can cause short of a bus from depo.
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pasha241 wrote:
LawBayly wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:39 pm A part of me wonders whether they'll bring back some of the old routes that used to exist before the Mandurah line was finished.

I remember I used to catch the 740 bus to Perth before the Mandurah line was finished, I think they could bring back those bus routes temporarily.

I'm sure there are other routes that were made redundant by the Mandurah line that could come back temporarily, seems like a better idea than shuttling people to an unused train station, just to catch another bus.
i think is good idea however the problem will be the bus availability from the depo because if i not wrong a lot of route in that time not had a good frequency as now and sometimes it can cause short of a bus from depo.
It’s still 6 months away PTA are running a survey which one can participate in @ https://www.buildingfortomorrow.wa.gov ... burn-link/, all 3 operators and some private concerns should be running the rapid bus service every 30-60 seconds some would be all stops and some would be express to the city based on previous large shutdowns. Minister Saffioti did mention they would look at running an express bus from Cockburn station across to Armadale station I do believe that’s heavily based on the ANRLB being complete so the buses can skip 3 sets of traffic lights in Cockburn they have options also pretty sure the smart freeway tech can be adapted to allow for lane filtering into a temporary bus lane


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TP1462 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:16 pm ... also pretty sure the smart freeway tech can be adapted to allow for lane filtering into a temporary bus lane
As much as I would like to see a bold initiative like this to ease the pain of the shutdown, given Bus Priority is typically in-name-only in Perth, it's probably wishful thinking to think they'd cordon off a lane on the freeway for the rail replacement services. Hope I'm wrong, though!
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Merc1107 wrote:
TP1462 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:16 pm ... also pretty sure the smart freeway tech can be adapted to allow for lane filtering into a temporary bus lane
As much as I would like to see a bold initiative like this to ease the pain of the shutdown, given Bus Priority is typically in-name-only in Perth, it's probably wishful thinking to think they'd cordon off a lane on the freeway for the rail replacement services. Hope I'm wrong, though!
Valid point however it would also require bus drivers either trying to merge at Russell road or using the new Mounts Bay road entrance to EQBS I’m sure MRWA & PTA will find a workable solution that takes advantage of the smart freeway tech. December is usually a more quite period on the TP calendar so patronage should be much lower. Trains will probably run every 10/15 minutes to Rockingham then every 30/45 minutes to Aubin Grove PTA seems to be a big fan of bi-directional flexibility could use both tracks and still maintain 15/20 minute headways to Aubin Grove


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