PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2020

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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2020

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They will have the same mechanical specs as that of 3033-3102, however the body will have modifications similar to that of the new B8s, with Thoreb screen moved to underneath the multiplex panel, exterior cameras etc.
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:52 pm They will have the same mechanical specs as that of 3033-3102, however the body will have modifications similar to that of the new B8s, with Thoreb screen moved to underneath the multiplex panel, exterior cameras etc.
Not exactly. They have a taller diff to try and compensate for the constant diff failures, suffered by the B8 Artics. There's also talk that a percentage of them may have Voith DIWA 864.6 Gearboxes, instead of ZF Ecolife. Bodywise they will be the same as the new delivery B8RLE's.

3103 is headed to Freo as far as I am aware.

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Malaga: 2300-2312, later received 2313-2322
Kalamunda: 2313-2362
Welshpool: 2363-2384, 2386-2388
Bayswater: 2375, 2385, 2389-2399

The Airport units were originally at Welshpool, with Welshpool exclusively running the 380's as they require the airport livery buses. Occasionally a non airport bus (including CNG buses) would appear on a 380. With the opening of Redcliffe, the 380 is now run out of there, with the associated buses being moved from WP to RC.
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2323-2325 may also be at Malaga now. The whole Kalamunda contract area has no more CR228 Volvo buses.

2375 most likely is at Redcliffe as I've seen it a few times on 935 and may have boarded it.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:47 am 2323-2325 may also be at Malaga now. The whole Kalamunda contract area has no more CR228 Volvo buses.

2375 most likely is at Redcliffe as I've seen it a few times on 935 and may have boarded it.
2325 still at kalamunda.
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Enviro, what Bus1809 posted was the original deliveries for those buses. The fleet as it stands for the 2300's are;

2300-2308: Kalgoorlie
2309-2324: Malaga
2325-2362: Kalamunda
2363-2390: Redcliffe
2391-2399: Bayswater

Obviously, the Malaga/Bayswater, and Redcliffe/Kalamunda fleet can swap due to breakdowns, but this is it afaik

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saw 1724 at Canning Highway, Como. which is weird seeing in the area that far away from depo especially on weekend
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pasha241 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:08 pm saw 1724 at Canning Highway, Como. which is weird seeing in the area that far away from depo especially on weekend
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Yesterday I spotted 2522 around 530pm heading into the Graeme tunnel freeway with "private function" displayed while later that night I spotted b12 heading north just passing Stirling station around 1030pm. Was Swan also doing ascot shuttles or just path?. Seems odd for Swan d having artic out late on a Saturday night
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Maybe the Swan Transit annual dinner function was on last night?
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Has anyone else noticed SP/MC buses seemingly having a high presence on the 998/999’s of recent?

I was under the impression that all Swan’s full Circles were operated by CV, but clearly not.
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perthbus wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:08 am Has anyone else noticed SP/MC buses seemingly having a high presence on the 998/999’s of recent?

I was under the impression that all Swan’s full Circles were operated by CV, but clearly not.
Yeah I feel they've been gradually picking up more and more circle runs since around the time Mount Claremont opened, especially around the start of this year. Feels like about a third of Swan's circles are run by Claremont/SP now
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Swan just has more depots than the other operators, so they'll send out a bus from one of its depots located along the route.

Anyway, the circle route is managed by Canning, so that explains why this area has one of the highest boarding figures.
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If not noted already, 3205 and 3206 have entered service.
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perthbus wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:08 am Has anyone else noticed SP/MC buses seemingly having a high presence on the 998/999’s of recent?

I was under the impression that all Swan’s full Circles were operated by CV, but clearly not.
also is anyone notice that malaga shift on circle route is gradually has less shift compare than before. with the shift replace by Bayswater shift.

because 5 year ago malaga has all path shift on circle route. however in 2016 bayswater came and replace some malaga shift. Also the Stirling - UWA short use to be all Path shift but not some of them replace by Claremont/SP shift
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I recall some talk a while ago that Path were turning Baysie into a Circle Route-prioritised depot, with a number of Bayswater's non-Circle shifts being moved to Malaga.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:51 am Anyway, the circle route is managed by Canning, so that explains why this area has one of the highest boarding figures.
Managed by, yes, but that doesn't mean that any pax boarding a bus anywhere on the circle counts as a Canning contract boarding. I'll happily admit I don't know how patronage on the circle is measured but I'd be very surprised if that's the case.
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2900 has its own moustache now.
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2300-2305 entered service in Kalgoorlie with TransGoldfields today, three more will make their way out there in coming days.
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Does that mean it's adios for all of the Kal NHs?

Also, what is the ratio of CV and Beckenham shifts on 998/999?
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Enviro 500 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:33 pm Also, what is the ratio of CV and Beckenham shifts on 998/999?
Based on nothing but my own experience, the FULL circles seem roughly split across the three operators pretty evenly. If I had to break them down I'd estimate:

35% Fremantle
30% Morley/Bayswater
25% Canning
10% Claremont/Shenton Park

Beckenham does no full circles that I am aware of, but short circles are much more diverse and often use a bus from a local depot.
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2050, presumably 2051 and 2052 as well, have returned from refurb.
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1HEO810 (ex-1824) was spotted around the WACA this evening.
The one who catches the Perth Stadium bus like an illegal immigrant by only to gunzel for buses & trains and/or to go anywhere else.

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