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PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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There's upcoming changes with the regular and school services from 3 February 2020. Please note this does not include the upcoming northern suburb changes for Mirrabooka and Wanneroo Road areas.
Transperth website wrote: Changes to Transperth Services across the network

Mon 03 Feb

From Sunday 3 February 2020, the following services will undergo changes:
  • Routes 23, 24, 81, 82, 83, 84, 97, 100, 101, 322, 341, 342, 535, 558, 600 will undergo time changes only
  • Routes 27, 28, 85, 96, 102, 228, 241, 340, 519 and 990 will undergo time changes and operate with additional service
  • Route 25 will undergo time changes and operate with fewer services
  • Route 531 will undergo minor route change for deviations to Emmanuel Catholic College / Jandakot Primary School
  • Route 536 will undergo time changes and undergo a route change to now terminate adjacent to Hammond Park Secondary College
  • Route 560 will undergo time changes and commence a 12 month trial of off-peak deviations to the Warnbro Centre.
  • Routes 998 and 999 will undergo time changes throughout the week with additional services on Saturday and Sunday.
Routes 591, 593 and 594 will undergo stand changes at Mandurah Station as follows:
  • Route 591 will now depart Stand B4
  • Route 593 will now depart Stand B2
  • Route 594 will now depart Stand B2
Transperth services will also be expanded to serve the following new schools:
  • Alkimos College with routes 483, 484 and 490
  • Bob Hawke College with routes 28, 85, 96, 97 and School Special 728)
  • St John Bosco College with Route 519
  • Hammond Park Secondary College with Routes 535 and 536
  • Southern Hills Christian Grammar School with trial School Special 730
Transperth website wrote: School Special Changes for Term 1 2020

Mon 03 Feb

From Monday 3 February there will be changes to a significant number of school services across the Transperth network. These changes are made in order to offer the best possible service across the network.

Students intending to travel to school via public transport should:
  • If this is your first time using Transperth to get to school visit our Get On Board website for more information for students and parents
  • Plan your journey prior to the start of school. The JourneyPlanner will be updated with the new school services two weeks prior to the start of school. Remember to change the date in the JourneyPlanner to the first day of school
  • Not every school will undergo changes, however all students should plan their journey before starting the new school year.
Please note that as services change, this information will be updated. Please continue to check back until the start of term.
Timetables updated:
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Not sure if this belongs here, but given the significance of the disruptions, I figured it's worth sharing (if only for posterity). The "Highway to Hell" event on Sunday 1st March, 2020 will result in significant service disruptions and deviations being put in place, as stated on the Transperth Website.

If anyone has a camera handy and is free on the day, it would be well worth making an outing to document both the special event services and the service deviations for freeway buses. In the latter case, I don't think any regular services have travelled this far south on the freeway since the opening of the Mandurah line in December 2007.

In brief (check the posted link for exact times and details):
Route 100 & 910: Will terminate on Clydesdale Street per the 148 & school-day 510 extension, and loop around Neil McDougall Park to resume their normal services.

Route 114: Services towards Perth will operate the usual route to Booragoon Bus Station, then deviate via Riseley Street and Leach Highway to access the Kwinana Freeway. Return services will not enter Booragoon Bus Station, and a temporary bus stop will operate opposite the bus station. It does not appear the route will service any additional stops on the detour.

Route 115: Services to and from Perth will use Leach Hwy to access the freeway and Booragoon Bus Station will not be serviced at all. It does not appear the route will service any additional stops on the detour.

Route 148: All services to be canceled due to lack of access to Canning Highway.

Route 205 & 206: Services to be truncated to Murdoch Station.

Route 500: All services cancelled after lunch.

Route 501: Services towards Fremantle will not enter Booragoon Bus Station, and use the temporary stop on Marmion St. opposite the station.

Route 510: Afternoon services will terminate at Bull Creek (access via Leach Hwy).

CircleRoute: Will not service Barry Marshall Parade (Murdoch University), and will instead service Murdoch Drive & South Street to resume normal routing. All interim stops will be serviced.

Additionally, there will be Special Event services running to cater for this event, also stated on the Transperth Website, although no timings or route information (including whether the services are express or not) are mentioned at this time. The routes are:
- Bull Creek Station to Tompkins Park
- Murdoch University (acting as Park & Ride) to Wireless Hill
- Fremantle Station to Leopold Hotel
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A bit of regional news, here:
Transwa Website wrote: Additional road coach service
On Thursday 23 January 2020 the Premier Mark McGowan and Transport Minister Rita Saffioti announced Transwa will be implementing a trial for a non-stop road coach service between Mandurah and Bunbury, commencing in May 2020.

In addition it was announced Australind passengers will also receive compensation if the train is delayed for more than an hour due to mechanical or electrical issues with the train. The compensation will be in the form of a trip credit.

For more information please refer to the Ministers Media Statement.
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Transperth Website wrote: Karrinyup Bus Station is Moving
From Tuesday 25 February the current Karrinyup Bus Station will close to facilitate works at Karrinyup Shopping Centre.

Karrinyup Bus Station will move into the median strip on Karrinyup Rd. Traffic lights are being installed to ensure passengers can safely cross Karrinyup Rd. Karrinyup Bus Station will remain here for approximately 18 months. During this time services will depart from the following stands:

Stand 1
Route 422 to Scarborough Beach Bus Station
Route 424 to Stirling Station
Route 650 to Optus Stadium.

Stand 2
Route 423 to Stirling Station
Route 425 to Stirling Station
Route 422 to Stirling Station.

Stand 3
Route 423 to Warwick Station, via Hillarys Boat Harbour
Route 425 to Warwick Station.
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Wanneroo Road and Mirrabooka bus changes commence from 8 March 2020.
Transperth Website wrote:
Northern Suburbs Service Changes

Sun 08 Mar

From Sunday 8 March 2020, there will be changes to services in the northern suburbs, including those running along Wanneroo Rd and services in the Mirrabooka area.

These changes include significant improvement to some sections of Wanneroo Rd, the introduction of new routes 374, 375, 448 and 449, major changes to routes 355, 376, 385 and 386 as well as the withdrawal of routes 352, 365, 372 and 469.

If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please visit transperth.wa.gov.au or call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.

Services will undergo the following changes:

Wanneroo Road Improvements

Routes 384, 385, 386, 387, 388 and 389

Services in this area are being improved to run more hours during the day at a more consistent frequency.

Routes 384, 385, 386, 387, 388 and 389 will combine to provide the following service:

Monday to Friday peak – services run every 4-7 minutes with additional limited stop buses running every 10-12 minutes
Monday to Friday daytime – every 7-8 minutes
Saturday and Sunday daytime – every10 minutes
Trips will be extended to run from 7.00am to 11.00pm on Sundays
A high frequency service (meaning a bus at least every 15 minutes) will run from 5.00am until 10.00pm on weekdays, 7.00am to 8.00pm on Saturdays and 8.00am until 7.00pm on Sundays.

New Routes

Route 374 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station via Madeley and Girrawheen

Based on the feedback received during the consultation period, the proposed route has been amended in Darch to travel along Regency Av.

Additionally, several trips will deviate via Newpark Shopping Centre.

The route will travel between Whitfords Station and Mirrabooka Bus Station, partially replacing routes 352, 365 and 372.

Route 374 will run throughout the week as follows:

Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak and on weekends.
Deviations or appropriately timed trips will be running to and from the following schools:

Girrawheen Senior High School
John Septimus Roe Anglican School
Ashdale Secondary College
Kingsway Christian College.

Route 375 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station via Finchely and Hainsworth Av

This service will run between Alexander Heights Shopping Centre and Mirrabooka Bus Station, partially replacing routes 365, 372 and 377 with a small number of trips will deviating via Bloodwood Dr.

Route 375 will run throughout the week as follows:

Every 10-20 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 60 minutes on weekends.
Deviations will be running to and from the following schools:

Ashdale Secondary College
Kingsway Christian College
Balga Senior High School.

Route 448 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Warwick Station via Giralt Rd and Blackmore Av

This service will run between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Warwick Station via Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Av partially replacing routes 365, 385 and 386.

Based on feedback received during consultation, Route 448 will run every 30 minutes (instead of the originally planned every 60 minutes) during the day on weekdays.

Route 448 will run on the following frequency:

Every 20 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 60 minutes on weekends.
Connections to School Special 755 for Greenwood Senior High School will run before and after school.

Route 449 – Warwick Station to Malaga Industrial Area via Beach Rd

This service will run between the Malaga industrial area and Warwick Station via Beach Rd.

Route 449 will run Monday to Friday as follows:

Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
Appropriately timed trips will be running to and from Mercy College and Balga Senior High School.

Major Route Changes

Route 355 – Ellenbrook Town Centre to Whitfords Station via Henley Brook Bus Station

This service will also undergo a major route change as follows:

Will no longer travel along Gnangara Rd between Wanneroo Rd and Mirrabooka Av (replaced by Route 376 in this section)
Will travel through the the Wangara industrial area on Distinction Rd and Prindiville Dr, replacing Route 469
Route 355 will also undergo time changes throughout the day with an additional short trip running from Whitfords Station to the Wangara industrial area in early morning.

Route 376 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station

The timetable has changed with some trips now extending from Landsdale to Whitfords Station. This extension replaces Route 355 on Gnangara Rd through Landsdale and Wangara, and Route 352, providing a link between Landsdale and Whitfords Station

There will be no changes to the route between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Landsdale.

Route 376 will now run at the following frequencies:

Between Landsdale and Mirrabooka Bus Station

Every 10-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 30 minutes on Saturdays
Every 60 minutes on Sundays.
Between Landsdale and Whitfords Station

Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
No weekend trips will run.
Deviations or appropriately timed trips will be running to and from the following schools:

Mercy College
John Septimus Roe Anglican Community School
Ashdale Secondary College
Kingsway Christian College.

Routes 385 and 386 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Perth Busport

Routes 385 and 386 will travel a new route between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Princess Rd with these services now running via Hepburn Av, Highclere Bvd, Girrawheen Av and Princess Rd.

Based on the feedback received during the consultation, a small number of trips will deviate to serve Newpark Shopping Centre.

New Route 448 replaces routes 385 and 386 on Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Av while Route 371 continues to service residents on Treen St, Culloton Cr and Camberwell Rd.

Additional trips run on all days of the week, with improved frequency during peak periods and trips every 30 minutes on Saturdays and Sundays.

Withdrawn Routes

Route 352 – Landsdale to Whitfords Station

This service has been withdrawn.

Passengers who catch Route 352 now have the following options:

Route 374 runs between Darch, Madeley and Whitfords Station
Route 376 runs between Landsdale and Whitfords.

Route 365 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station

This service has been withdrawn.

Passengers who catch Route 365 now have the following options:

Route 448 will travel along Giralt Rd
Routes 374, 385 and 386 travel along Marangaroo Dr, Girawheen Av and Princess Rd
Routes 374 and 375 travel between Balga Av and Mirrabooka Bus Station
See the route 374, 375 and 448 section for more detail on schools services.

Route 372 – Mirrabooka Bus Station to Marangaroo

This service has been withdrawn.

Passengers who catch Route 372 now have the following options:

Routes 374, 385 and 386 travel along Hepburn Av, Highclere Bvd and Marangaroo Dr
Routes 374 and 375 travel between Marangaroo Dr and Mirrabooka Bus Station
See the route 374 and 375 section for more detail on schools services.

Route 469 – Whitfords Station to Wangara

This service has been withdrawn.

Passengers currently catching Route 469 and travelling between Ellenbrook Town Centre and Whitfords Station can catch Route 355 which will serve a greater area of Wangara.

General Service Changes

Route 60 - Elizabeth Quay Bus Station to Morley Bus Station

Will undergo a route change to operate via Beaufort St, Newcastle St and William St in both directions
New stops have been added on Beaufort St after Aberdeen St (from Perth) and on William St before Brisbane St (to Perth).

Route 344 – Warwick Station to Morley Bus Station

The timetable has changed with services now running more frequently on Saturdays, with a trip every 30 minutes.

Route 346 – Morley Bus Station to Noranda

The timetable has changed with a small number of trips withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 347 – Morley Bus Station to Noranda

The timetable has changed with a small number of trips withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 354 - Yokine to Mirrabooka Bus Station

Will undergo time changes.

Route 370 - Perth Busport to Mirrabooka Bus Station

Will undergo time changes to improve coordination with Route 970

A stop will also be added in both directions on Chesterfield Rd.

Route 371 – Warwick Station to Morley Bus Station via Mirrabooka Bus Station

The timetable has changed with additional trips running on all days
Frequency has been increased from every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes on Saturdays.

Route 377 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station

Route 377 will no longer service the following streets:

Rawlinson Dr
Bloodwood Dr
Jefferson Dr
Marangaroo Dr (between Jefferson Dr and Mirrabooka Ave).
They will instead be serviced by Route 375.

Route 377 will replace School Special 753 from Balga Senior High School in the afternoon

Route 377 will also undergo minor time changes including additional trips operating in the afternoon peak.

Route 378 – Alexander Heights to Mirrabooka Bus Station

A small number of trips with low patronage will be withdrawn.

Route 384 – Mirrabooka Bus Station to Perth Busport

The timetable has changed with additional trips running on all days of the week. This includes improved frequency during peak periods, evenings and trips every 30 minutes on Sundays.

A deviation is also running to service Servite College after school.

Route 387 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport

The timetable will change, including time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services.

Short trips between Warwick Station and Northlands Plaza Shopping Centre will no longer run on weekends due to low patronage.

Based on the feedback received during consultation, most trips proposed to be withdrawn have been reinstated and will continue to run.

Route 388 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport

Will undergo time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St to minimise wait times in this section.

A number of trips will be withdrawn due to poor patronage including running less frequently on Saturdays, down from every 30 minutes to every 60 minutes. The withdrawn trips will be partially replaced by additional trips on routes 371 and 386.

Route 389 – Wanneroo to Perth Busport

The timetable will change with services underging time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St, reducing wait times in this section.

A small number of trips will also be withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 390 – Joondalup to Banksia Grove via Tapping

Will undergo time changes including changes to trips for Joseph Banks Secondary College

One trip to Tranquil Dr near Flynn Dr will now terminate at Viridian Dr near Tumbleweed Dr

One Saturday evening trip will be withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 391 – Joondalup to Banksia Grove via Carramar

Will undergo time changes including changes to trips for Joseph Banks Secondary College

One Saturday evening trip will be withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 450 –Warwick Station to Landsdale via Kingsway City Shop Centre

Will undergo time changes to run every 30 minutes on Saturdays. A small number of additional trips will also run on weekdays

Additional trips to cater for Ashdale Secondary College and Kingsway Christian College will run before and after school.

Route 467 – Whitfords Station to Joondalup Station

Time changes on all days of the week with a small number of additional trips running.

An earlier trip will run on weekdays with a number of later trips running on all days of the week.

Route 468 – Whitfords Station to Joondalup Station

Time changes on all days of the week with a small number of trips withdrawn due to poor patronage. These resources will be used to run additional Route 467 trips.

Routes 389 and 467 provide an alternative option for many passengers.

Route 970 - Perth Busport to Mirrabooka Bus Station

Will undergo time changes, improving coordination with Route 370 and Wanneroo Rd services..

How are schools affected?

Ashdale Secondary College

Routes 352 and 372 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services.

Ashdale Secondary College will be served by the following services:

New Route 374
New Route 375 (deviating service)
New Route 375 (deviating service)
Amended Route 376 (deviating service)
Existing Route 450 (additional capacity added)

Balga Senior High School

Routes 365, 372 and School Special 753 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services.

Balga Senior High School will be served by the following services:

Route 371 (deviating service)
New Route 374
New Route 375 (deviating service)
Route 377 (afternoon only service, replacing School Special 753)
New Route 449 (a short distance away on Beach Rd)

Girrawheen Senior High School

Routes 365 and 372 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services

Girrawheen Senior High School will be served by the following services:

Route 344
New Route 374
Amended Route 385 (limited stops service)
Amended Route 386

John Septimus Roe Anglican School

Routes 365 and 372 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services.

John Septimus Roe will be served by the following services:

New Route 374
Amended Route 376
Morning School Special 772 (unchanged)
Morning School Special 773 (unchanged)
Afternoon School Special 774 (unchanged)

Kingsway Christian College

Routes 352 and 372 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services.

Kingsway Christian College will be served by the following services:

New Route 374
New Route 375 (deviating service)
New Route 375 (deviating service)
Amended Route 376 (deviating service)
Existing Route 450 (additional capacity added)

Mercy College

Routes 365 and 372 have been withdrawn and replaced with new services.

Mercy College will be served by the following services:

Amended Route 376 (route changes have occurred)
New Route 449

Woodvale Secondary College

Due to Woodvale Secondary College changing their finish times, there will be changes to the following services:

Route 447 (deviating service)
Route 466
Route 467
School Special 750.

Stand Changes

Mirrabooka Bus Station

Services will run from the following stands:

1 370 – Perth Busport via Flinders St, 970 – Perth Busport via Flinders St
2 354 – Dog Swamp Shop Centre via Nollamarra Shop Centre, 384 – Perth Busport via Nollamara Shop Centre and Wanneroo Rd
3 960 – Curtin University Bus Station via Alexander Dr, ECU Mt Lawley and Perth Busport
4 374 – Whitfords Station via Girrawheen Av and Madeley
5 375 – Alexander Heights Shop Centre via Finchley Cr and Hainsworth Av
6 376 – Whitfords Station via Mirrabooka Av and Gnangara Rd
7 371 – Warwick Station via Balga
8 415 – Stirling Station via Amelia St
9 377 – Alexander Heights Shop Centre via Koondoola Av
10 371 – Morley Bus Station
11 School Specials, 378 – Alexander Heights via Alexander Dr, 652 – Perth Stadium Bus Station (Limited Stops Event Bus Service)
12 67 – Elizabeth Quay Bus Station, 68 – Elizabeth Quay Bus Station

Whitfords Station

Services will run from the following stands:

1 467 – Joondalup Station via Pearsall, Hocking and Ashby, 468 – Joondalup Station via Wanneroo Rd
2 355 – Ellenbrook Town Centre via Wangara, Gnangara Rd and Henley Brook Bus Station, 374 – Mirrabooka Bus Station via Madeley and Girrawheen Ave, 376 – Mirrabooka Bus Station via Gnangara Rd and Mirrabooka Av
3 445 – Warwick Station via Coolibah Dr, 446 – Warwick Station via Allenswood Rd, 447 – Warwick Station via Moolanda Bvd
4 443 – Warwick Station via Giles Av, 444 – Warwick Station via Gibson Av
5 441 – Warwick Station via Seacrest Dr, 442 – Warwick Station via Waterford Dr
6 460 – Joondalup Station via Oceanside Prom, 461 – Joondalup Station via Dampier Av
7 462 – Joondalup Station via Bridgewater Dr, 465 – Joondalup Station via Trappers Dr, 466 – Joondalup Station via Timberlane Dr
8 463 – Joondalup Station via Gradient Wy, 464 – Joondalup Station via Eddystone Av

Warwick Station

Services will run from the following stands

1 Drop off stand
2 344 – Morley Bus Station via Alexander Heights and Ballajura, 371 – Morley Bus Station via Mirrabooka Bus Station, 447 – Whitfords Station via Moolanda Bvd
3 441 – Whitfords Station via Seacrest Dr, 442 – Whitfords Station via Waterford Dr
4 443 – Whitfords Station via Giles Av, 444 – Whitfords Station via Gibson Av
5 445 – Whitfords Station via Coolibah Dr, 446 – Whitfords Station via Allenswood Rd
6 423 – Stirling Station via Hillarys Boat Harbour and Karrinyup Bus Station, 450 – Landsdale via Kingsway City Shop Centre
7 387 – Perth Busport via Eglinton Cr, Balcatta Rd and Wanneroo Rd, 388 – Perth Busport via Beach Rd and Wanneroo Rd, 448 – Kingsway City Shop Centre via Blackmore Ave and Giralt Rd, 449 – Malaga via Beach Rd
8 425 – Stirling Station via Carine and Karrinyup Bus Station, 427 – Stirling Station via Gwelup and North Beach Rd, 428 – Stirling Station via Balcatta

FAQs

Why are changes being made?

Transperth undertake regular reviews of the bus network to ensure that routes are still aligned with demand. The changes improve the alignment of bus service provision with demand, providing more direct routes and new connections, which is expected to increase patronage.

Why are some routes being withdrawn or reduced?

Routes are only being withdrawn or reduced where there is low demand. In most cases alternative services exist or new services are being introduced to replace withdrawn services. Reductions have allowed enhancements to be introduced including a new direct service linking Malaga with Warwick along Beach Rd and increases to frequency on many routes.

Why are new routes being introduced or frequencies enhanced?

Transperth have identified a number of areas where demand for bus services is increasing so additional trips have been added to many routes. New routes have been added to provide more direct connections between key activity centres.

How much are these changes costing?

The changes are designed to be cost neutral and it is anticipated that increased patronage will improve sustainability of the network.
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PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Mr OC Benz wrote:Wanneroo Road and Mirrabooka bus changes commence from 8 March 2020.
Other stuffs that's not mentioned from Transperth website:

Route 376 will having a minor route modifications in Landsdale to run in the Eastern side of Broadview instead of the Western side of the road. (EDIT: checked with the online timetable and there's no change to the route for that part, seems likely it's drawing error of the route map there, and will be available in the next update dated 15/03/2020.)

Route 60 will having a minor route modifications, and it's no longer travel through Brisbane Street. Newcastle Street and William Street will be used instead. Stop 10216 [William Street before Brisbane Street] will be reinstated by this route change. Should it be possible to adding back the stops in William Street (including stop 10217 [William Street after Monger Street], and a new bus stop at William Street for North bound) to restore back the Northbridge services.

Timetable 139 (routes 593/594) have their times swapped each other for last two columns for Sundays from Mandurah bound.

(Those links below are currently not working until Transperth rectify the naming issue for those filenames, which literally read as effective 3 August 2020. Once they fixed them those links will be working again.)

Timetables updated:
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Is William Street now 2-way after Newcastle Street?
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Enviro 500 wrote:Is William Street now 2-way after Newcastle Street?
Yep, it was upgraded a couple of months ago.

I was really hoping the 60 would continue the entire length of William St. I don't understand the need for the small deviation via Beaufort st.
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Minor updates for 28 and the Yellow CAT in response to heavy school service patronage effective today:
Transperth Website wrote:Route 28 and Yellow CAT - Additional Trips
Mon 24 Feb
From Monday 24 February, the Yellow CAT and Route 28 will run additional short services for students at Perth Modern School, Bob Hawke College and Shenton College as well as the wider community travelling from Perth into Subiaco.

The additional 28 services will also provide an alternative to heavily patronised Yellow CAT services.

The additional services will operate as follows:

Route 28

Morning
Departing Perth Busport at 8.20am to Jolimont via West Perth and Subiaco.
This trip will terminate at Stop 11496 adjacent to Shenton College.

Afternoon
Departing Roberts Rd adjacent to Bob Hawke College at Stop 28069 at 3.18pm travelling to Perth Busport.
Departing Shenton College at Stop 11515 at 3.20pm travelling to Perth Busport.

These two trips are in addition to the existing 3.08pm departure and will stop at all stops to Perth including Stop 12788 adjacent to Perth Modern School arriving at approximately 3.20pm and 3.35pm.

Perth Modern students are encouraged to make use of this service.

Yellow CAT

Additional buses will run on the Yellow CAT particularly during the busy morning and afternoon school peaks. Where possible, passengers, particularly students should consider catching the additional Route 28 services.
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shinjiman wrote: Timetables updated:
It's worth noting those links are broken as someone has altered the filenames to the format:

Bus Timebable nnn 20200803.pdf (i.e. in YYYYDDMM format instead of the usual YYYYMMDD). I sent a message to their web site about this, this morning.
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Timetable links as on the website: Also not mentioned on the service changes, the 384-389 Wanneroo Rd trunk has had the timing point moved from Wanneroo Rd/Amelia St (Stop 12340 T, Stop 16396 (385/386) and 12369 F (387-389)) to Wanneroo Rd/Harrison St (Stop 12344 T and 12364 F).
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busdriver12 wrote:
shinjiman wrote: Timetables updated:
It's worth noting those links are broken as someone has altered the filenames to the format:

Bus Timebable nnn 20200803.pdf (i.e. in YYYYDDMM format instead of the usual YYYYMMDD). I sent a message to their web site about this, this morning.
Transperth Bus Timetable 102 file links (Route 60)
Transperth Bus Timetable 102 file links (Route 60)
Transperth Timetable PDF link per route 60.PNG (6.1 KiB) Viewed 8320 times
That's makes the one literally effective at 3 August 2020 per the online timetable per route so that Transperth needs to fix this one to rectify that on their end.
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Also not mentioned on the service changes, the 384-389 Wanneroo Rd trunk has had the timing point moved from Wanneroo Rd/Amelia St (Stop 12340 T, Stop 16396 (385/386) and 12369 F (387-389)) to Wanneroo Rd/Harrison St (Stop 12344 T and 12364 F).
Also worth to note that the route 389 will be re-listed from Bus Timetable 82 (385, 386, 389) to Bus Timetable 81 (387, 388, 389).

Bus Timetable 74 will have the routes re-listed (from routes 365/372 to routes 374/375)

Bus Timetable 80 will have the routes re-listed (from routes 352/450 to routes 448/449/450)

Route 469 will be removed from Bus Timetable 73.
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Went to mirrabooka today. Want to inform people who curious which new route is operated by

374 - SWan Transit (Wangara, Joondalup) - Saw 1223 doing it at Mirrabooka after Doing 970
375 - Path Transit (Morley, Bayswater) - Saw 2773 just arrive at Mirrabooka - Before, i thought this route gonna be operated by SWan because it follow 372 route (SWan) but it was a Path route (maybe because Alexander Hts is closer to Path depot Malaga rather than Wangara depot)
448 - SWan Transit (Wangara, Joondalup) - Saw 2148 doing it at Warwick
449 - Path Transit (Morley, Bayswater) - Saw 1409 doing it at Warwick (the desto it display Ballajura, Guandalupe Drive like 362)

although i not sure about other route like 376 is this still Path route or Move to SWan because terminated at Whitfords.
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375 only goes to Alexander Heights where it can interchange with the 377 and other Morley routes, thus making it sensibly go to Path Morley rather than Swan Joondalup (372 went up to Darch where it was in proximity of other Joondalup routes such as 450). Even though it follows the 372, it doesn't follow it far enough into Joondalup territory. I'd imagine, as the 376 still runs through Alexander Heights, that it stayed with Path - it's still predominantly in Morley contract territory.
Case note - I also saw 1223 doing a 448 (8:18 AM Warwick departure). The shift, if you were watching during AM, probably went 448F-385T-970F-374F. No surprises which routes ended up in which contract otherwise.
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So is that why Joondalup has excess capacity and is in a position to move 12 buses to Malaga?

All the same, if 2858-64 weren't destined for Joondalup, they could have been registered as 2779-85 for Malaga instead.
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Enviro 500 wrote:So is that why Joondalup has excess capacity and is in a position to move 12 buses to Malaga?
Remembering these changes were intended to be cost-neutral (i.e. robbing Peter to pay Paul), then the changes seem to have resulted in Joondalup doing less service work. I would guess there is also the possibility that rescheduling some services for better coordination could have saved some buses, too.
Enviro 500 wrote:All the same, if 2860-64 weren't destined for Joondalup, they could have been registered as 2779-83 for Malaga instead.
What would be the point of that?
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Enviro 500 wrote:
All the same, if 2860-64 weren't destined for Joondalup, they could have been registered as 2779-83 for Malaga instead.
Seems we're getting a bit off topic, but where did anyone say 2860-64 were destined for Joondalup? Much more likely they're Claremont-bound to replace more NHs. Why would Malaga need extra B8s instead? As Merc1107 said, these changes were intended to be cost-neutral so neither depot should need any additional buses to essentially cover the same amount of running, otherwise there would be no point in changing things in the first place.
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pasha241 wrote:Went to mirrabooka today. Want to inform people who curious which new route is operated by

374 - SWan Transit (Wangara, Joondalup) - Saw 1223 doing it at Mirrabooka after Doing 970
375 - Path Transit (Morley, Bayswater) - Saw 2773 just arrive at Mirrabooka - Before, i thought this route gonna be operated by SWan because it follow 372 route (SWan) but it was a Path route (maybe because Alexander Hts is closer to Path depot Malaga rather than Wangara depot)
448 - SWan Transit (Wangara, Joondalup) - Saw 2148 doing it at Warwick
449 - Path Transit (Morley, Bayswater) - Saw 1409 doing it at Warwick (the desto it display Ballajura, Guandalupe Drive like 362)

although i not sure about other route like 376 is this still Path route or Move to SWan because terminated at Whitfords.
That's one makes me surprised as well as the route 375 operated by Path Malaga instead of Swan Wangara.

For the route 376, only half of weekday trips are extending to Whitfords Station, there’s some short trips runs between between Whitfords and Alexander Heights as well, the rest of them including the weekend trips are terminating in Landsdale.

As said above, those information can be found in the Spatial Data from Transperth Website, located in the routes.txt file.
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Squiddy wrote:
Enviro 500 wrote:
All the same, if 2858-64 weren't destined for Joondalup, they could have been registered as 2779-85 for Malaga instead.
Seems we're getting a bit off topic, but where did anyone say 2858-64 were destined for Joondalup? Much more likely they're Claremont-bound to replace more NHs. Why would Malaga need extra B8s instead? As Merc1107 said, these changes were intended to be cost-neutral so neither depot should need any additional buses to essentially cover the same amount of running, otherwise there would be no point in changing things in the first place.
Because 2857 is at Joondalup and I assume that the next seven are also there.
sylar wrote:If there was excess buses in Joondalup they could have simply moved them to Shenton Park and withdraw more NH's from there.
Actually Shenton Park can take the 12 B7s from Joondalup and Malaga can get 12 newly-minted B8s, including what was later registered 2858-64.
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Enviro 500 wrote:Because 2859 is at Joondalup and I assume that the next five are also there.
Seeing as I rode 2859 on a 103 to Nedlands yesterday I find that hard to believe. Don't 'assume' anything when you don't have a clue what you're talking about. As far as I know 2861+ haven't even been delivered yet. Now can we get back on topic please?

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Update for Lesmurdie Senior High School, with school special 741 withdrawn and replaced with new route 281 as of this Monday.
Transperth Website wrote:Lesmurdie SHS Service Changes
Sun 15 Mar
From Sunday 15 March new Route 281 will start running for students attending Lesmurdie Senior High School. With the new route starting we will also be withdrawing School Special 741 and reducing the number of trips running on Route 282.

Morning services
The Route 282 trip departing Stop 13677 (Welshpool Rd after Hale Rd) at 7.56am will be withdrawn. The trip departing at 8:01am will continue to run.
Passengers can instead catch new Route 281 will depart Darling Range Sports College at 7.52am and arrive at Lesmurdie SHS arriving at 8.25am.
Route 283 departing departing Stop 13677 (Welshpool Rd after Hale Rd) at 8:06am will continue to deviate via Lesmurdie Senior High School.

Afternoon services
School Special 741 departing Lesmurdie Senior High School at 3:09pm will be withdrawn.
New Route 281 will depart Lesmurdie Senior High School Stand 1 (Stop 26172) at 3.09pm and arrive at Darling Range Sports College arriving at 3:40pm.
Passengers can also catch Route 282 at 3.05pm or School Special 741 departing at 3.12pm.

If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.
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Does anyone know if the new Route 281 will appear in Timetable 94 similar to Route 279 appearing in Timetable 89? They both operate on school days only. Does the fact that they are numbered 2XX and not 7XX means that the services get published in a printed bus timetable and not just listed on the Transperth website?
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Does anyone know if the new Route 281 will appear in Timetable 94 similar to Route 279 appearing in Timetable 89? They both operate on school days only. Does the fact that they are numbered 2XX and not 7XX means that the services get published in a printed bus timetable and not just listed on the Transperth website?
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