Looking for info on our 1953 Morris Bus

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chrisall
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Looking for info on our 1953 Morris Bus

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Hi, first post and straight in with a request for info on our recently acquired bus. This handsome fellow is a 1953 Morris with the 4L straight six Austin (Sheerline?) engine. The body is by Motor Body Builders, which was a subsidiary of the Scarborough Bus Service. The old rego stickers show the number KWN813 which is Kwinana regional number. We believe he was at one time a school bus somewhere in WA

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At some point he was converted to a motorhome. All of the original interior was removed and most of the windows either removed or plated over.

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We have since gutted the interior and made a start on reinstating the windows as we like the original exterior look.

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We would love to find out any info about our bus, or pictures of the same model in general so we can see how various bits are supposed to look. Cheers!
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Hi Chrisall, welcome to the board! Most buses in WA can have their history found on the website http://www.perthbus.info. A search using the search facility in the website turned up 0 records for the bus (the website is volunteer-maintained and not government-supported, so records will be incomplete). A search for MBB (initials for Motor Body Builders) turned up various buses but none sporting the same body model as your bus pictured. There have turned up, however, various Austin buses with differing front moulding, so perhaps the front was rebuilt at some point? Out of curiosity (and to assist with finding further information), when did you acquire the bus, who from and where? Could you also find the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)? It should be on a metal plate somewhere, most likely in the engine bay or interior near the front.
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Re: Looking for info on our 1953 Morris Bus

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Bus Suggestions wrote:Hi Chrisall, welcome to the board! Most buses in WA can have their history found on the website http://www.perthbus.info. A search using the search facility in the website turned up 0 records for the bus (the website is volunteer-maintained and not government-supported, so records will be incomplete). A search for MBB (initials for Motor Body Builders) turned up various buses but none sporting the same model as your bus pictured. Out of curiosity (and to assist with finding further information), when did you acquire the bus, who from and where? Could you also find the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)? It should be on a metal plate somewhere, most likely in the engine bay or interior near the front.
Thanks for the quick response. I did check on that site and found our bus from an old gumtree advert where we first saw it https://www.perthbus.info/report.php?vid=LPG_MORRIS and also a very similar looking 1954 one https://www.perthbus.info/report.php?vid=1954MORRIS I am struggling to find any other pics or info online.

I got it from Carnarvon WA a few months ago. The previous owner had it listed on gumtree and that's from where that perthbusinfo pic is taken from. I believe he got it off a banana plantation up there a couple of years earlier and was going to use it as a motorhome, however plans changed etc.

The VIN is 7/66313 and the type is 5FPA/53. Interestingly although it has a Morris badge on the front the chassis plate is from the Austin Car Company (Australia) PTY of NSW. I guess that would be the original importer of the chassis & running gear onto which MBB added the body locally in Perth.

Cheers!
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Unfortunately, neither a search for the VIN or body type on http://www.perthbus.info or the national (national except for WA, also volunteer-maintained) Busaustralia fleetlists (http://www.fleetlists.busaustralia.com/index.php) came up with any results other than what has been brought forward. I recommend contacting the previous owner of the bus for information and asking for any potential leads to other previous owners, who may be able to provide more information on the bus. Eventually, you might come full circle to the Scarborough Bus Service!
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Re: Looking for info on our 1953 Morris Bus

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I can't help with any more similar Morrises, but here's a very similarly-bodied Austin but with a shorter wheelbase; owner & location unknown; photo from c2007:
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Here's another with a longer wheelbase:
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Both would appear to have been bodied by Motor Body Builders.
This Austin is also recorded as having an MBB body, photographed in Jerramungup in 2014:
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Get the gen, see the shots: www.perthbus.info
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Re: Looking for info on our 1953 Morris Bus

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I can't help with any more similar Morrises, but here's a very similarly-bodied Austin but with a shorter wheelbase; owner & location unknown; photo from c2007:
49e7wbwity0w85001.jpg
Here's another with a longer wheelbase:
498qyxyglzcww5001.jpg
Both would appear to have been bodied by Motor Body Builders.
This Austin is also recorded as having an MBB body, photographed in Jerramungup in 2014:[/color]
490rnth0fkkk45001.jpg
Get the gen, see the shots: www.perthbus.info
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