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Admet should be getting 5 Scania K360UA artics delivered every year with Custom CB80 bodies for a little while. Does anyone know about any more artics being delivered? Torrens Transit have 1183-1189 at Morphetville and Mile End depots. What is the plan for numbering the next deliveries and when they are planned to be delivered? Also, how do the vehicles get delivered from NSW? Thanks


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Custom no longer manufacture CB80s. However, they could possibly have the new Endeavor body which according to Custom's website does come in an 18m articulated version.
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385BUZ wrote:Custom no longer manufacture CB80s. However, they could possibly have the new Endeavor body which according to Custom's website does come in an 18m articulated version.
Thank you. I have been wondering this. The department said that 5 buses will be manufactured interstate each year so I assumed that these would be Custom buses


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So do CC still build buses? This explains the absence of additional jackpot artics this year. I was expecting 1190 to enter service at some point.
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TA3001 wrote:So do CC still build buses? This explains the absence of additional jackpot artics this year. I was expecting 1190 to enter service at some point.
CC still built buses.

Torrens Transit have not got any buses over xx89 so I don’t know about 1190 being the next vehicle. They might though


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Custom Coaches still manufacturs buses and coaches-is owned by a finance group
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TA3001 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:01 pm So do CC still build buses? This explains the absence of additional jackpot artics this year. I was expecting 1190 to enter service at some point.
They DO NOT build CB80s or SB50s anymore. They instead build Endeavours as their low-floor route bus offering, and Adventurers as their School/Charter offering.

See their website for details. custombus.com.au
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Darwin have received 2 new CB80 Mercedes-Benz units this year, so not sure about that.
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Merc1107 wrote:Darwin have received 2 new CB80 Mercedes-Benz units this year, so not sure about that.
Torrens Transit had 1189 delivered in April this year


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385BUZ wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:17 pm
They DO NOT build CB80s or SB50s anymore. They instead build Endeavours as their low-floor route bus offering, and Adventurers as their School/Charter offering.
Standard case would have been sufficient to portray your message. But anyhow, I hope these new models don't have that infamous bell tone that has even annoyed at least one driver from what I can tell.

I'm sure they won't even come close to the standards of the current crap being delivered with nice sturdy backrests that don't vibrate, normal window lines, and exceptional ride quality.
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It's possible that despite the contract featuring 50 artics, they may not necessarily be delivered on a yearly basis.
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busrider wrote:It's possible that despite the contract featuring 50 artics, they may not necessarily be delivered on a yearly basis.
The Department contract details online states that 5 artics will be delivered each year


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The contract also says that there'll be 29 rigids per year, and so far this year they're at 38 rigids. Maybe some of the artic orders were converted to rigids, or there's been a variance in how many buses get delivered each year. Either way, I think we'll be waiting a while for new artics.
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1046-1082 makes for 37, unless 1083 is in service. The bus from the same body manufacturer in the hills is from 2014 according to the fleet lists.

And I thought that the ten year contract specified 400 buses, which makes for roughly 40 per year on average.
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You're right, 1046 to 1082 is 37. 1083 and 1084 are in service now too, so that makes it 39, and there's at least one more new unit currently sitting at Scania.

The figure of 400 new buses was from the old contract that the Labor government signed, the newer contract signed by the Liberal government only has 340 buses.

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Custom Coaches no longer exists. It became Custom Bus about 8-9 years ago (around the same time the CB80 came out) and more recently appears to be morphing into Custom Denning. It is not owned by a finance company but by Englishman Scott Dunn who until recently also owned Telford Tours in Sydney.
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Merc1107 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:24 pm Darwin have received 2 new CB80 Mercedes-Benz units this year, so not sure about that.
They were manufactured at the start of the year up to about May(?)
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4 new Scania buses sitting at Scania Wingfield.
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Doesn't make any sense. There is nothing in service right now that is nearing 25 years excluding 1333.

But unfortunately I have heard a rumour of the CNG NLs being next in line for the scrap heap at least up to mid next year.

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You might find the Gawler rail line closures have something to do with it.
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Also its not actually compulsory to keep a bus until 24y/11m before withdrawing it.
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And it’s a much, much better look to the public if the fleet is new. Considering the PMC 160 body on NL202s looks like an 80s design, the public perception of those buses must be poor
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Lt. Commander Data wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:13 pm And it’s a much, much better look to the public if the fleet is new. Considering the PMC 160 body on NL202s looks like an 80s design, the public perception of those buses must be poor
Sadly yes, those buses do look much older than they are, but they are still beautiful vehicles - it will be sad to see the last of them go.
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the public perception of those buses must be poor
I think gunzels are a bit out of touch with reality, the public sees their bus showing 106 or 228F or whatever and they catch it assuming it’s going to their destination. They don’t worry whether it’s redfront or yellow front, whether it’s Custom or BusTech, Scania, Volvo, MAN or Merc. It’s a bus that gets them home. I drove an NL diesel on Friday and had positive comments about how good the air conditioning was, I’ve driven an 18.280 when passenger said how good it was to catch one of the new buses. And believe me people in wheelchairs or gophers love the NLs (diesel or CNG) with the wide rear door opening straight into the wheelchair area instead of squeezing and bashing through the very narrow winding front entry on a Scania to get to the wheelchair area. To the general public a bus is a bus.
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I was riding an NL202 diesel recently, and one passenger remarked that the bus was old, and would probably break down at some point. Hell, one day about 6 years ago I was at TTP waiting for a 560, and some old woman complained that a "bloody old bus" (NL202) had shown up. Are those random people also out of touch with reality?
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