[Sept/Oct 2020] SA transport observations

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Noticed St Agnes Depot 246 ex Southlink 2201 out in service today very unusual to see a St Agnes NL 202 out on a Sunday morning shift
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It's likely that the allocation was done based on driver preference.

Scania 1385 was out on a late shift around the beginning of this year during the service cuts, and was also out on a Sunday in late September last year.
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New Scania Bustech 1076 entered service this afternoon.
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jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:26 pm New Scania Bustech 1076 entered service this afternoon.
What are these replacing?
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TA3001 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:07 pm
jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:26 pm New Scania Bustech 1076 entered service this afternoon.
What are these replacing?
MAN SL 202's that were hurriedly retired a couple of months ag.
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jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:26 pm New Scania Bustech 1076 entered service this afternoon.
Now Morphettville's MAN NL202 Volgrens 1351-1353-1355 have been withdrawn.
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I thought the government didn't pay for replacements for privately owned vehicles.
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jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:48 pm
jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:26 pm New Scania Bustech 1076 entered service this afternoon.
Now Morphettville's MAN NL202 Volgrens 1351-1353-1355 have been withdrawn.
Now 2 more retirements;- Volvos B10BLE 1305 and 1306
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jibb wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:54 pm
jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:48 pm

Now Morphettville's MAN NL202 Volgrens 1351-1353-1355 have been withdrawn.
Now 2 more retirements;- Volvos B10BLE 1305 and 1306
Was this planned or a consequence of the fire in Henley Beach earlier?
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jibb wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:48 pm Now Morphettville's MAN NL202 Volgrens 1351-1353-1355 have been withdrawn.
I saw 1354 in traffic this afternoon
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1356 and 1357 have been out of service for quite some time-not sure if they have been retired?
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So buses no longer see 25 years of service then I assume.

When is 2745 (the newest MAN) earmarked for withdrawal?
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Temporary closures of the Belair, Outer Harbor and Grange lines

When: From Sunday 27 September 2020 to Monday 28 September 2020

Affecting: BEL, OUTHA, GRNG

Due to essential electrical maintenance works at Adelaide Railway Station, a range of rail closures will be in place from approximately 7.30pm Sunday night 27 September 2020.
https://adelaidemetro.com.au/Announceme ... ange-lines
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TA3001 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:04 pm So buses no longer see 25 years of service then I assume.
Anything decent should at least last around 25 years.
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25 years is maximum age - there is no requirement to retain the bus in service for that long
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1whoknows wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:40 am 25 years is maximum age - there is no requirement to retain the bus in service for that long
There may be no requirement to retain a bus in service for that long but in greace monkey talk it is well known that decent lasts at least 25 years and anything beyond that is good.
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The latest Scania Bustech to enter service this afternoon-1077.
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A number of MAN NL202 buses from Busways Lonsdale Depot are on loan to Torrens Transit's Edinburgh West Depot during the Rail subs.
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Just past Elizabeth (Hewittson Road)-look up on Google maps
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2MSJ wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:39 am Where is Edinburgh West?
Supposed to be Edinburgh North :!:
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jibb wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:11 am A number of MAN NL202 buses from Busways Lonsdale Depot are on loan to Torrens Transit's Edinburgh West Depot during the Rail subs.
These buses now have the prefix "R" in front of the fleet number.
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How long are the busways loans for rail subs for?

There are now closures and subs everyday until October 2021 from the admet update:

https://adelaidemetro.com.au/Announceme ... res#Future

Temporary partial and full closures of the Gawler rail line are required between October 2020 and October 2021 to facilitate works for the project that cannot be safely undertaken with trains operating in the corridor.

Summary of future Gawler lone closures:

Monday 12 October 2020 to Christmas Day 25 December 2020, inclusive (approx 2.5 months) Partial closure between Adelaide Railway Station and Salisbury Interchange

Boxing Day 26 December 2020 to Monday 25 January 2021, inclusive (approx 1 month) Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway Station

Australia Day 26 January 2021 to Friday 9 April 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months) Partial closure between Mawson Interchange and Gawler Central Station(April school holidays)

From Saturday 10 April 2021 to Saturday 24 April 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks) Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway Station

Sunday 25 April 2021 to Friday 2 July 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months) Partial closure between Mawson Interchange and Gawler Central Station

(July school holidays) Saturday 3 July 2021 to Sunday 18 July 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks) Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway Station

Monday 19 July 2021 to Friday 24 September 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months) Partial closure between Salisbury Interchange and Gawler Central Station

(September school holidays) Saturday 25 September 2021 to Sunday 10 October 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks)
Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway Station

I realise they have spare buses in school holidays, however school terms coming up will leave them tight on available numbers without coach top up?

Apologies -reformatted for accuracy
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I imagine some buses will need to be used for train substitute services on the Harbor and Grange Lines and possibly all lines when wires are put up on the rest of Adelaide Yard
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thedom wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:54 pm How long are the busways loans for rail subs for?

There are now closures and subs everyday until October 2021 from the admet update:

https://adelaidemetro.com.au/Announceme ... res#Future

Temporary partial and full closures of the Gawler rail line are required between October 2020 and October 2021 to facilitate works for the project that cannot be safely undertaken with trains operating in the corridor.

Summary of future Gawler lone closures:

Monday 12 October 2020 to Christmas Day 25 December 2020, inclusive (approx 2.5 months)

Partial closure between Adelaide Railway Station and Salisbury InterchangeBoxing Day 26 December 2020 to Monday 25 January 2021, inclusive (approx 1 month)

Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway StationAustralia Day 26 January 2021 to Friday 9 April 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months)

Partial closure between Mawson Interchange and Gawler Central Station(April school holidays) From Saturday 10 April 2021 to Saturday 24 April 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks)

Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway StationSunday 25 April 2021 to Friday 2 July 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months)

Partial closure between Mawson Interchange and Gawler Central Station(July school holidays) Saturday 3 July 2021 to Sunday 18 July 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks)

Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway StationMonday 19 July 2021 to Friday 24 September 2021, inclusive (approx. 2.5 months)

Partial closure between Salisbury Interchange and Gawler Central Station(September school holidays) Saturday 25 September 2021 to Sunday 10 October 2021, inclusive (approx. 2 weeks)
Full line closure, closed Adelaide Railway Station to Gawler Central Railway Station

I realise they have spare buses in school holidays, however school terms coming up will leave them tight on available numbers without coach top up?
The formatting of the list of closures seems to have gone awry.

The full line closures Adelaide - Gawler Central are during the school holidays (Sep/Oct 20, Jan, Apr, July, Sep/Oct 21). The partial closures are at other times and (I guess) will continue to be weekday late evenings and overnight as they have been up to now. So the greatest demand for rail sub buses will be in the school holidays.
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