Knoll faces Liberal Party revolt on bus cuts

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Merc1107 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:55 pm I wouldn't call it good news if it means the existing network will be left entirely alone - something has to be done about the falling patronage (the Coronavirus won't have helped - but in theory the statisticians can calculate what patronage would've been with some simple adjustments). Whether that means another new network proposal or a more localised approach with the operator's input, I have no clue.
I agree, well at least I will be able to get to work and a date :wink: with out needing to pull my "limo out.
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Well, the so called "Bus Stops Fiasco" has been dumped, as has the planned closures of the SA Service Centres - there was probably a near cabinet revolt over these two proposals, noting how unpopular they both were with the general public.
Common sense has prevailed and probably fear of an electoral backlash at the next election. Our Transport Minister has lost out all round!!
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So does this mean the proposed new routes are off the table?
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Skexis wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:00 pm So does this mean the proposed new routes are off the table?
Yes.
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jibb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:39 pm

The Premier Stephen Marshall has announced that the proposed cuts to bus routes and stops has been cancelled and will not go ahead--good news.
Great, so Adelaide’s 20 year old and outdated system will remain dysfunctional

While I agree with most that the New Network wasn’t perfect, I believe with a few adjustments in some areas (and a rethink of route numbers in the OSCA, ONCA, and Hills) it could have modernised our system
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All route numbers need simplifying..
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jibb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:31 pmNot now
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jibb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:11 pm All route numbers need simplifying..
It gets a little confusing when you have been around for so long and they use existing route numbers for new different/other routes like for example the 734 used to go up to Blackwood.
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Tim Williams wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:35 pm Well, the so called "Bus Stops Fiasco" has been dumped, as has the planned closures of the SA Service Centres - there was probably a near cabinet revolt over these two proposals, noting how unpopular they both were with the general public.
Common sense has prevailed and probably fear of an electoral backlash at the next election. Our Transport Minister has lost out all round!!
That's because most people of "age :roll: vote for them and they want to keep there voters.
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Big Engine Mechanic wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:16 pm
jibb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:11 pm All route numbers need simplifying..
It gets a little confusing when you have been around for so long and they use existing route numbers for new different/other routes like for example the 734 used to go up to Blackwood.
734 has never gone to Blackwood.
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The Phonj wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:46 pm
Big Engine Mechanic wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:16 pm

It gets a little confusing when you have been around for so long and they use existing route numbers for new different/other routes like for example the 734 used to go up to Blackwood.
734 has never gone to Blackwood.
Yer it did I use to catch that bus to work and back for 5 years ! Like 20 years ago
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The Phonj wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:46 pm
Big Engine Mechanic wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:16 pm

It gets a little confusing when you have been around for so long and they use existing route numbers for new different/other routes like for example the 734 used to go up to Blackwood.
734 has never gone to Blackwood.
I agree it never did-it was always an Outer South Route. This person is getting his route numbers mixed up.
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Big Engine Mechanic wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:48 pm Yer it did I use to catch that bus to work and back for 5 years ! Like 20 years ago
I think you’ll find that was the 738 and 739

https://web.archive.org/web/2005040518 ... ttable.pdf
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Lt. Commander Data wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:00 pm
Big Engine Mechanic wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:48 pm Yer it did I use to catch that bus to work and back for 5 years ! Like 20 years ago
I think you’ll find that was the 738 and 739

https://web.archive.org/web/2005040518 ... ttable.pdf
That says 2005/06
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jibb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:58 pm
The Phonj wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:46 pm

734 has never gone to Blackwood.
I agree it never did-it was always an Outer South Route. This person is getting his route numbers mixed up.
The only thing I said wrong was blackwood, I used to walk into blackwood, it went through eden hills along shepherds hill road.
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Most embarrassing my partner at the time even rang up metro to find out where I was when I missed the bus, I clearly remember it being 734, big argument about it, had a chat with the bus driver about it the next day back when you could talk to the bus drivers, I had the same bus driver everyday he was really friendly to everybody and on his last day before retirement, he pranked everyone by wearing thease odd glasses and personally got off the bus to give everyone a hug at each stop.
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The info on the new website's been pulled but you can still see some thumbnail images here:

https://www.dpti.sa.gov.au/search?q=bus ... &sa=Search

This paper gives some background and case studies https://www.saplanningportal.sa.gov.au/ ... ltants.pdf
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That's if you pay for that newsletter.
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PaxInfo wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:08 pm The expanded Go Zone map can be found here:
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No it can't. Paywalled.
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I hereby call for Stephan Knoll to resign. Anyone care to second?
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Skexis wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:55 pm I hereby call for Stephan Knoll to resign. Anyone care to second?
That's what I ment paywalled. I agree, the only thing I like about him is how he does his hair and smart dress. You can tell he is still growing into a man and that will take many years to come, some people take a lifetime to learn differences.
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The whole problem with the government is there are too many chiefs and not enough indians.
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