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Ventura/Grenda 669 in service

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Hi there, here is a shot of (669) now with Ventura stickers on an route 843 to Mossgiel Park

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Still not overly keen on the sides as its too plain. I do like the blue better than the current dark blue but if there was more on the sides it would be good.
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What's with the Dandenong on the upper rear OS venturatiger :?: I'm sure I haven't seen that on any buses before :?
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My guess dandenong night rider but I'm not to sure
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josh01 wrote:My guess dandenong night rider but I'm not to sure
I would have thought it's to an attempt to keep some local branding (ie Moorabbin Transit buses would have Moorabbin etc).

As for the bland side, probably decided it will be covered by an advert soon enough anyway, and the current stripes would suffice.

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Craig wrote:
josh01 wrote:My guess dandenong night rider but I'm not to sure
I would have thought it's to an attempt to keep some local branding (ie Moorabbin Transit buses would have Moorabbin etc).

As for the bland side, probably decided it will be covered by an advert soon enough anyway, and the current stripes would suffice.

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I can see a gap in the chrome painted trim along the side of the bus suggesting you might be on the money (although it was probably like that from the previous livery).
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That "chrome trim" you mention (I think) is in fact hinges, as those panels hinge open for ease of access, whereas the middle panel are simply screwed on and do not hinge.
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Tas Bus Nut wrote:That "chrome trim" you mention (I think) is in fact hinges, as those panels hinge open for ease of access, whereas the middle panel are simply screwed on and do not hinge.
And they are actually rubber hinges.
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I think it looks very classy...

Moreover, from an artistic, aesthetic point of view, it is strongly suggestive of forward motion in a modern world, which would be very pleasing to the management at Ventura, who are rather averse to drivers reversing buses.. :wink:

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I also think it looks very smart and modern and should be adopted across the Ventura Group, It looks fresh and will still look good in 10 years time. The only thing is maybe add a bit of red in there.
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The number G669 appears on the offside above the driver's window. I wonder whether this was an oversight as I understand the "Dandenong" branding was intended to replace the operator name.

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Looks much better from this angle and I'm starting to like it a lot. As Mercedes said, a little more colour on the side would be nice. However that would make it look even more like a ripoff of the Seymour Coaches livery.
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Maybe they could put the red in as I suggested above to a) give it more colour and b) separate it from the Seymour livery.

Also the Knox City Council community buses sport the same blue and yellow colour scheme, I can't find a photo, but they are the same colours.

But nevertheless, a very nice effort by Grentura.
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Perhaps add a light blue shade to it to keep the light and dark blues with the yellow? will just add a bit more i reckon
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Interesting to note the latest Ventura news letter suggests that the marketing department is considering its options regarding livery, and the plan is to decide on a livery that will be painted on all new buses delivered across all 15 depots. So who knows, perhaps this 669 is just an experiment, and might not be the ultimate final product. Only time will tell.
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If Ventura are going to the ex Grenda fleet like this at least you will know which part of the Ventura network it came from.
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I'm not sure why, but I really like this, even though it's really not much of a change from the original Grenda livery.

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To me it looks like its missing something where the old Grenda signage was.
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SmartBusfan wrote:To me it looks like its missing something where the old Grenda signage was.
Maybe putting a blue Ventura logo (similar to on the front and rear) in that spot would be a good idea.
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Mitch wrote:I'm not sure why, but I really like this, even though it's really not much of a change from the original Grenda livery.

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With a change over from Grenda TO Ventura, why would they keep the Grenda livery more predominant. I would have thought, and going by reports in some media, that EVENTUALLY all buses would be Ventura livery, with Grenda disappearing altogether, however, in saying that . . .
V981 wrote:Interesting to note the latest Ventura news letter suggests that the marketing department is considering its options regarding livery, and the plan is to decide on a livery that will be painted on all new buses delivered across all 15 depots. So who knows, perhaps this 669 is just an experiment, and might not be the ultimate final product. Only time will tell.
it looks like Ventura may :?: :?: opt for a completely new livery version :?:
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How could they even think of changing a colour scheme which has been around as they put everywhere on their buses "since 1924" Its been the same basic blues since then & to change it drastically would make Ventura just another name rather than a proper branding. When people think of Ventura, the first thing in your mind is the 2 blues. Same is said for the Grenda depots, when most people are asked what they think of Peninsula, straight away you think of the light blue livery, or Moorabbin the dark green. Not this silly corporate livery which lost the face of what the group started with. To change it to anything else would make it just another corporate trying to go cheaply. The way Venturas latest Volgrens look in their 2 blue livery is basically amazing. The same basic style livery with Ventura & maybe the dandenong bit on it would be enough.
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RailwayBus wrote:
SmartBusfan wrote:To me it looks like its missing something where the old Grenda signage was.
Maybe putting a blue Ventura logo (similar to on the front and rear) in that spot would be a good idea.
Yeah, that would look quite good.
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How could they even think of changing a colour scheme which has been around as they put everywhere on their buses "since 1924" Its been the same basic blues since then & to change it drastically would make Ventura just another name rather than a proper branding. When people think of Ventura, the first thing in your mind is the 2 blues. Same is said for the Grenda depots, when most people are asked what they think of Peninsula, straight away you think of the light blue livery, or Moorabbin the dark green. Not this silly corporate livery which lost the face of what the group started with. To change it to anything else would make it just another corporate trying to go cheaply. The way Venturas latest Volgrens look in their 2 blue livery is basically amazing. The same basic style livery with Ventura & maybe the dandenong bit on it would be enough.
Ummm... because maybe they want to change the livery to something more modern reflecting the liveries of both of the existing large companies that now make up Ventura. The Ventura / Grenda situation is not the same as large Ventura taking over small companies like Ivanhoe or US Buslines. It is large Ventura merging with large Grenda. I would speculate that maybe someone has decided this may require a different approach to ordering more two tone blue buses with the small companies name on the side ala National, US or Ivanhoe. Probably rightly so.

As for the comments about Moorabbin being known in the area for the 2 tone green, I suspect that there are many people in the area for whom the livery of a just over 20 year old company may not actually register terribly much, especially given I don't even think it was the orginal livery. Some of us still remember the more striking liveries of Blue and Silver, Southland Bus Services or Sandringham Bus Company, companies which were around much longer.

Then there are those who don't care what the livery is, as long as the bus turns up on time, the service is frequent and gets them to where they want to go on time without it taking a lot longer than driving...
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krustyklo wrote:As for the comments about Moorabbin being known in the area for the 2 tone green, I suspect that there are many people in the area for whom the livery of a just over 20 year old company may not actually register terribly much, especially given I don't even think it was the orginal livery. Some of us still remember the more striking liveries of Blue and Silver, Southland Bus Services or Sandringham Bus Company, companies which were around much longer.

Then there are those who don't care what the livery is, as long as the bus turns up on time, the service is frequent and gets them to where they want to go on time without it taking a lot longer than driving...
Absolutely right..

For 99.99999% of the bus-using population, they couldn't care less about the livery, type of bus, nationality of driver, which company owns it, etc, as long as the bus turns up approximately on time and gets them where they want to go in around about the time the timetable refers to.
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Peter1805 wrote:
krustyklo wrote:As for the comments about Moorabbin being known in the area for the 2 tone green, I suspect that there are many people in the area for whom the livery of a just over 20 year old company may not actually register terribly much, especially given I don't even think it was the orginal livery. Some of us still remember the more striking liveries of Blue and Silver, Southland Bus Services or Sandringham Bus Company, companies which were around much longer.

Then there are those who don't care what the livery is, as long as the bus turns up on time, the service is frequent and gets them to where they want to go on time without it taking a lot longer than driving...
Absolutely right..

For 99.99999% of the bus-using population, they couldn't care less about the livery, type of bus, nationality of driver, which company owns it, etc, as long as the bus turns up approximately on time and gets them where they want to go in around about the time the timetable refers to.
Yep! Most regular passengers only look out for one thing on the outside of the bus, and that is the correct route number on the front and that's all. (Though some would argue that people even do this, lol)
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