Timetable and Route Changes, 23/8/2020

[swtt]

So far there seems to be a few identified viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90154&start=125 already:

• 400/400N - diverts into Junior Kingsford interchange, reversion to old route in the Prince of Wales Hospital precinct
• 370 - reversion to old route in the Prince of Wales Hospital precinct

In addtion:

• 533 - three additional short runs from Olympic Park Station in the very early morning to Ryde @ 0528, 0549, 0609

More will be added as they're discovered.

[Fleet Lists]

In another thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90274&p=1066014&hil ... v#p1066014 Transdev changes to routes 923 924 and 926.

[Fleet Lists]

There is now a news item on Transport Info https://transportnsw.info/news but it goe nowhere. So keep an eye out for it.

[Fleet Lists]

Found a better link http://transportnsw.info/news/2020/bus- ... -in-august but still not going anywhere.

[Fleet Lists]

Just noticed a new timetable for N71 which now operates to Richmond seven days a week https://transportnsw.info/routes/detail ... /n71/23N71

[swtt]

There is now a news item on Transport Info https://transportnsw.info/news but it goe nowhere. So keep an eye out for it.

Every time there's TT/route changes, this happens. They aren't very used to posting things without creating a glitch I presume.

[Xplorer]

Peak hour peak direction 194s to be renumbered as 194X, remaining services to travel via Cammeray and stay as 194
L70 to remain as L70 though, not renumbered to 270x like L90 to 190x

[J_Busworth]

There is also the introduction of the new N92 from Town Hall to Tallawong.
https://transportnsw.info/routes/detail ... /n92/23N92

Stopping Town Hall, Wynyard, Macquarie Park, then all stations to Tallawong

[swtt]

More discoveries:

• 600 - minor changes to TTs. Some additional trips very early morning. Overnight services now extended from Castle Hill Station to Pennant Hills Station.
• 610X/610N - it seems that 610N will be discontinued from 23/8. No new TT listed, but heaps of additional overnight 610X trips.

[marcnut1996]

The https://transportnsw.info/news/2020/bus ... -in-august link works and show the changes.

[tonyp]

I simply can't understand the rationale for continuing to operate 891 now that the tram is connecting UNSW.

[Fleet Lists]

https://transportnsw.info/news/2020/bus ... t#homepage is now working

There is also a new N31 between Liverpool and Leppington. Route 348 also returned to High Street.

Ans a number of other changes.

There is no mention of this being a rationalisation of routes as a result of the light rail - I think that is still to come.

[swtt]

Yeah - if it were to be the rationalisation of routes, then you'd also have the flood of Inner West routes that need to be changed, namely M10 (--> 440) and M50 (--> 508?).

[J_Busworth]

There has been an indefinite delay on changes to the network as a result of the Light Rail. The only light rail related changes this time round are putting routes back to pre-construction routes through Randwick. It makes sense to have routes operate the same route in each direction, rather than on opposite sides of UNSW and the Hospital.

At this stage I wouldn't expect many big network wide changes in Region 9 until late this year or early next year.


It is good to see proper dedicated Nightride for the North West and South West rail links, as well as extra services in that South West growth zone.

[tonyp]

There has been an indefinite delay on changes to the network as a result of the Light Rail. The only light rail related changes this time round are putting routes back to pre-construction routes through Randwick. It makes sense to have routes operate the same route in each direction, rather than on opposite sides of UNSW and the Hospital.

At this stage I wouldn't expect many big network wide changes in Region 9 until late this year or early next year.


It is good to see proper dedicated Nightride for the North West and South West rail links, as well as extra services in that South West growth zone.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was put back until after the next election, if ever. They probably chose the 400 just to have something to put through the interchange so that it doesn't completely look like a giant white elephant. It would help on that front to put the rest of Anzac Pde services through it too, not to mention giving users a choice, especially if they want to diffuse crowds in buses into more spacious trams to increase the personal distancing.

[TSE_SecretAni]

I just notice that route 869 will have an additional weekday early morning, weekday evening and weekend services from the service changes from 23rd of August. Weekends service frequency will run every 30 mins instead of 1 hour and over 120 additional weekly services.

[Qantas94Heavy]

Interesting to see they seem to have given up on their 'experiment' replacing NightRide buses with regular route buses, making an N92 route instead of 610N/620N. Are there any changes slated for 607N?

On a side note, I still don't get why they're so rigid about only having NightRide stops for railway stations.

I simply can't understand the rationale for continuing to operate 891 now that the tram is connecting UNSW.

Indeed, especially given that I think the university is still closed. It looks like they are currently running a reduced 'holiday' schedule though.

In fact the pre-construction route actually caused more traffic congestion, as the sheer numbers of alighting passengers using the pedestrian crossing ended up frequently blocking the road.

[swtt]

I think the special non NightRide "N" routes work when there's no railway replacement. 610N was not quite the same as 610X in route it took after Castle Hill. I suspect more "N" routes will pop up where there's no railway equivalent and there's a deviation to the usual route, e.g. 410N if there was to be an overnight, all stop version of the 410 (between Burwood and Bexley Nth where 410 is limited stops)

[swtt]

Re: Route 194/194X:

Service frequency increased to 30 mins during off peak, evenings and weekends

Currently the 194 seems to operate every 15 min during the weekday off peak, and the new TT has a 30 min off peak frequency.

That's NOT a service frequency increase for weekday off peak.

[Aurora]

On a side note, I still don't get why they're so rigid about only having NightRide stops for railway stations.

It is a rail replacement so should only stop at railway stations. However there are selected stops on selected routes which are in additional to railway station stops.

[Mr OC Benz]

Re: Route 194/194X:

Service frequency increased to 30 mins during off peak, evenings and weekends

Currently the 194 seems to operate every 15 min during the weekday off peak, and the new TT has a 30 min off peak frequency.

That's NOT a service frequency increase for weekday off peak.[/img]

The current service frequency is 60 mins off-peak so it is an increase to 30 mins. Not sure why the online timetable is showing 15 mins. COVID extras perhaps or just an error? The FCL version on their website shows the current base frequency: https://forestcoachlines.com.au/wp-cont ... 190429.pdf

[swtt]

Re: Route 194/194X:



Currently the 194 seems to operate every 15 min during the weekday off peak, and the new TT has a 30 min off peak frequency.

That's NOT a service frequency increase for weekday off peak.[/img]

The current service frequency is 60 mins off-peak so it is an increase to 30 mins. Not sure why the online timetable is showing 15 mins. COVID extras perhaps or just an error? The FCL version on their website shows the current base frequency: https://forestcoachlines.com.au/wp-cont ... 190429.pdf

That's a pretty glaring error!

[Fleet Lists]

That must have snuck in since this April 2019 timetable https://web.archive.org/web/20190427230 ... 190428.pdf

[Cazza]

Route 194 is currently running every 15 mins off-peak, however, I'm not sure why or when this change happened. I have always remembered it running at 60 min headways off-peak (and weekends), as per the timetables above. It could possibly to do with extra Covid services but I don't see the need for much additional capacity during off-peak. 30 min headways 7 days seems like a much more suitable frequency for the service.

The later night services as well as additional stops made along Eastern Valley Way are definitely more than welcome too. However, it is not at all timed with Route 207 to provide a combined 15 min frequency which is a bit disappointing.

[Qantas94Heavy]

That must have snuck in since this April 2019 timetable https://web.archive.org/web/20190427230 ... 190428.pdf

There seems to be a more recent one for Jan 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20200116031 ... 200128.pdf

Given that it's crept in only in the past couple of months, seems likely that these are extra COVID services.