CBD & South East Light Rail

[Passenger 57]

Reminds me of a line from a previous work place:
Q. What's the difference between an urgent problem and an un-urgent one?
A. About an hour.

[Fleet Lists]

Some posts have been moved to viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90154 about the bus network

[Jurassic_Joke]

Trams tonight completely overcrowded, like actually packed full, doors couldn’t close on the one I was on, due to football in Moore Park tonight. Happy to see this light rail really getting patronage it deserves.

[lunchbox]

The stair landings on the Moore Park footbridge ar so badly designed they retain pools of rainwater about 10mm deep. Does nobody follow up these design faults? All it needs is a man (woman?) with a 5mm dia masonry drill.
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[tonyp]

I find many concreters nowadays are highly skilled at pitching slopes in the wrong direction. What happened to the old spirit level?

[Merc1107]

They're adept at laying concrete that cracks within 6 months, too!

I've been to former defence towns where houses made of concrete, concrete and more concrete abound. 50yrs had transpired since those houses were built, and most showed no signs of any degradation... Clearly, things ain't what they used to be. That wretched, "She'll be roight maaaaaaaayte" attitude will be the demise of our country.

[hornetfig]

I find many concreters nowadays are highly skilled at pitching slopes in the wrong direction. What happened to the old spirit level?

It's the stair nosing, added afterward, which causes water retention. The stairs at Moore Park weren't even poured in-situ, so there's no excuse for poor concreting.

[matthewg]

They're adept at laying concrete that cracks within 6 months, too!

And welding rail in such a fashion that the welds 'dish' in 12 months instead of 12 years.

The problem is everything is given to the 'lowest bid' contractor who then has to rush through the job in order to get to the next job and make enough money to survive.
Very few trades now spend the time to do a neat and though job - if they spend the time they don't make enough money, or if they factored that into their quote they don't get the job in the first place. I'm sure most of the guys on the ground would love to spend the time to do a 'proper job', but they don't get the opportunity to.

Have to wonder where all the billions went - it certainly wasn't to ensure the sub contractors had the opportunity to do a top-quality job.

[Swift]

So they're basically going for the base factor of cost, like everybody does these days. Not too advanced after all are we?

[Jurassic_Joke]

Looks like the front row of seats closest to the driver are again available for passengers on the Citadis trams and the restrictive tape around the cab has also been removed (more standing room!). Same goes for L1’s Urbos trams

[Transtopic]

Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.

[Swift]

We once were a can do city. Now we're a we can't because city.

[tonyp]

Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.

Not too much traffic congestion in 1861. Nevertheless the 2nd generation tram system covered Circular Quay - Central in 15 minutes with twice as many stops as CSELR (stopping basically at the corner of every block). L2/L3 seem to have got this section down to 13-14 minutes now so it's moving forward. L1 is at least 5 minutes too slow along its length too.

[Glen]

Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.

They must have been very fast horses!

[marcnut1996]

Late night maintenance works for the L3 tomorrow night and Thursday night. L2 services will run as usual.

L3 replacement buses will not stop at Surry Hills, with the closest stop at Chalmers Street.
https://transportnsw.info/news/2021/bus ... -kingsford

[Jurassic_Joke]

Late night maintenance works for the L3 tomorrow night and Thursday night. L2 services will run as usual.

L3 replacement buses will not stop at Surry Hills, with the closest stop at Chalmers Street.
https://transportnsw.info/news/2021/bus ... -kingsford

Ticket readers are located in all replacement buses. Customers will need to tap on when boarding a replacement bus and tap-off when arriving at your stop with a valid ticket or contactless payment.

A standard light rail fare applies on-board light rail replacement buses.

I like how they remind people of this now after the many years of essentially “free” trips on rail buses with all Opal readers “closed” or just not on the bus at all

[Swift]

The middle state on the eastern side had to live up to it's middle of the road status. Mediocrity is and shall continue to be it's religion.

[boronia]

Ticket readers are located in all replacement buses. Customers will need to tap on when boarding a replacement bus and tap-off when arriving at your stop with a valid ticket or contactless payment.

A standard light rail fare applies on-board light rail replacement buses.

I like how they remind people of this now after the many years of essentially “free” trips on rail buses with all Opal readers “closed” or just not on the bus at all

Passengers on these services would mostly have a long experience of tapping on/off on buses, so should not be an issue, unlike train travellers.

[boronia]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/dri ... 57nm3.html

Surry Hills is hardly CBD, but good that no serious injuries

[Linto63]

Surry Hills is hardly CBD, but good that no serious injuries

200 metres from Central station, its on the fringes of the cbd.

[Cazza]

https://youtu.be/ma8P5HexczA

[Linto63]

Continuing from viewtopic.php?p=1077984#p1077984

Problem is that there is not a lot of peripheral for car or trams drivers vision courtesy of the road being built on a shelf with a cliff-face on one side from which the light rail tunnel emerges and the concrete walls on the other side that carry the line over the Eastern Distributor. Line speed is only 30km/h, so it might add 20 seconds to the journey time, not a big deal in the overall scheme.

[Cazza]

Perhaps it just needs boom gates like on the Glenelg line?

But then you may have the problem of cars not stopping for pedestrians and bikes because they are accustomed to stopping for boom gates for trams.

[Cazza]

Continuing from viewtopic.php?p=1077984#p1077984

Problem is that there is not a lot of peripheral for car or trams drivers vision courtesy of the road being built on a shelf with a cliff-face on one side from which the light rail tunnel emerges and the concrete walls on the other side that carry the line over the Eastern Distributor. Line speed is only 30km/h, so it might add 20 seconds to the journey time, not a big deal in the overall scheme.

But it is. 20 seconds may not seem like much, but if there’s a way to not have trams needing to slow down to near walking speed and fundamentally increase the safety of that area, why not undertake it? I won’t lie, when I watched that cab ride video, I was pretty shocked when I saw that speed. It once again just shows it being a knee jerk reaction more than anything else, and proves how much more of a culture shift is needed before we see (for whatever reason) the burden of cars put back onto public transport.

[Linto63]

To increase the range of vision for drivers (both car and tram) that would allow speed limits to rise would require the retaining wall on the eastern side to be moved, the tram bridge to have its walls removed (which I am guessing based on their thickness are for strength purposes) and houses demolished on the western side. There is no reason it couldn't be done, but realistically it won't.

Like it or loathe it, Sydney is a car orientated city, the current administration's road building program makes it pretty clear they don't intend changing it. As with most infrastructure projects, compromises had to be made.