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There was a picture on FB earlier today of a bus with stickers on the seats showing where people could sit.
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boronia wrote:There was a picture on FB earlier today of a bus with stickers on the seats showing where people could sit.
Was the photo in a transport related Facebook group or was it on a public transport related Facebook page
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Here is that green safe seat sticker spotted on Image
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Campbelltown busboy wrote:Surprising that governments haven't yet got contracted bus operators to measure 1.5 metres between seats witch would probably mean one person every 3rd or 4th seat witch would restrict the capacity of a 50 seat bus to 10 or 15 seats
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Is the bus in the video modeled by Precision? If so, it looks like way less of an eyesore on the inside than any Adelaide one.
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As far as I can tell, it is an older Bustech VST model, probably dating late 90s-early 2000s. Back when they manufactured windowlines you could see out of...
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Adelaide and Sydney have no such restrictions and Melbourne has yet to issue advice to service providers.
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Bus Suggestions wrote:As far as I can tell, it is an older Bustech VST model, probably dating late 90s-early 2000s. Back when they manufactured windowlines you could see out of...
I suspect it represents just a generic bus. I don't think State Transit has any Bustechs from that era but Nowra Coaches has one. It was quite a good design, before Bustech lost the plot.

I can't see these new limits working very well in Sydney. Traffic gridlock from all the extra people driving will bring everything to a halt, including the buses that will be caught up in it, then everybody will want to use public transport again.
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So a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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I think this article is free to read but it comes from Newcastle Herald
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/stor ... /?cs=17267
Social-distancing measures limiting public transport capacity do apply on the privatised Newcastle network, but Transport for NSW says no school student will be left without a ride.

The government announced a string of measures on Monday to help prevent the potentially rapid spread of COVID-19 when public transport use increases as society returns to normal.

They included reduced passenger limits which drastically cut the capacity of buses, trains, ferries and trams.

Only 12 people will be allowed on a bus and 32 in a train carriage. Similar limits are expected on Newcastle's trams and ferry. Green stickers will be placed on seats to spread passengers out.

Monday's announcement centered on the usually jam-packed Sydney network, but Transport for NSW confirmed the passenger limits would apply in the Hunter.

"Physical distancing measures will be rolled out across the state with the deployment of green dots to take place over the coming days," a TfNSW spokesperson told the Newcastle Herald.

Bus drivers will likely ignore the rules, and have been instructed to do so, to allow school children to use the network as required.

The passenger limits had drawn concern from parents about how students would commute to school when they return en masse on Monday. Transport for NSW said the limits did not apply to dedicated school buses.

"There are currently no physical distancing restrictions on dedicated school services," the agency said.

"No school student will be turned away from public transport, even if this means physical distancing won't always be possible on dedicated services. School children and people who require assistance, such as those with disability, will be given priority access, even if this means a service goes over physical distancing capacity."

Transport Minister Andrew Constance said on Tuesday no school students should be left behind.

"We can't have school kids left anywhere," he said

"There's got to be a bit of common sense apply.

"We've said with school kids, 'don't leave them anywhere isolated on the network'. With schools going back, we do run specialised services for school kids, generally, but there are other kids who have to use the broader network and ultimately we want to give them priority."

Richard Olsen, NSW branch secretary of the Transport Workers' Union, urged the community to respect drivers and staff.

"Bus drivers are doing their job to keep people moving, we would ask that bus passengers take responsibility for their own safety aboard a bus, and not to take out any frustrations they have on a driver," Mr Olsen said.
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Lets just remember the good news (for us)
Australia's deaths per million of population is just 3 (NZ as well)
USA - currently running at 286 per million.
Belgium - over 500 per million.
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Ah, today's "What gives you the S&#T's!?" is the fact that the Federal Government allowed a ship (a live export ship, came from UAE) to dock at Fremantle, with knowledge of people on board with symptoms of Covid 19, and just happened to forget to tell the WA State Government about it.
Mark McGowan's Facebook Page wrote:"We had hoped today we would be able to announce another day of zero COVID-19 cases, after the four we recorded yesterday.

Unfortunately, instead I have some serious news to outline. So please bear with me.

There is currently a situation evolving as we speak at Fremantle Port regarding a live export ship – the Al Kuwait - that docked at Fremantle Port last Friday, the 22nd of May.

The Al Kuwait departed United Arab Emirates on the 7th of May, with a total of 48 crew on board.

This morning, seven crew members were tested for COVID-19.

Six have tested positive – all males – and are now being moved off the ship to a Perth hotel for quarantine.

This is a fast evolving situation today, involving WA Health, WA Police, Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development and Fremantle Port as well as Border Force and Australian Maritime Safety Authority.

For the time being, the remaining 42 crew members, who I am advised are currently ‘well’, will remain on board the ship and will be monitored and undergo health assessments as required.

But I suspect it is more than likely that more crew members may also become infected.

This is an extremely concerning situation that we find ourselves in.

But because of the work of all Western Australians, we are in the best possible position to deal with this type of situation.

We flattened the curve of COVID-19, we significantly reduced any community spread of the virus and our hospital system is well prepared.

A WA Health team is on board the ship to further assess the crew and provide advice around health and infection control going forward.

I know many of you will have questions – just like I had when this first came to my attention today.

Straight away I had thoughts of the cruise ship saga, and I thought these kind of situations were behind us.

It goes to show that strong border controls are important as we continue to handle this worldwide health crisis.

Now, I will just explain how we got to this point, based on a briefing I have received.

I’m advised the ship was granted permission to enter the Port of Fremantle by the Federal Government – through the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture on the 20th of May.

At that time, the pre-arrival report that was lodged by the ship reported three crew members with elevated temperatures.

On the 22nd of May, the ship provided an updated report to the Australian Border Force which included one crew member with a high temperature, plus three showing similar symptoms in last the 15 days.

This was when final clearance was provided by the Commonwealth for the ship to berth. At this point, the Fremantle Port Authority was not made aware of the health concerns.

A Fremantle Port worker, wearing PPE – went on board on the 22nd to help steer the ship into a berth at the Port – as per usual process. This person and any relevant close contacts are now in isolation.

It wasn’t until Sunday evening, that the Fremantle Port Authority learnt of some health issues on the ship.

This came by word of mouth from another worker at the port - and the information was then reported through the usual channels.

And now we find ourselves in this situation, which we are working as quickly as possible to get to the bottom of.

Clearly, this is not good.

We want to get to a resolution as soon as possible, so the ship is in a position to leave our port.

The Police Commissioner has reached out the Australian Border Forcer Commissioner and the Federal Department of Agriculture to try and get an understanding as to why the ship was allowed to berth at our port.

It was intended that live sheep be loaded onto the ship in coming days, before departing before the Federal Government’s 1 June mandatory three-month live export pause comes into effect.

The ship was due to export 56,000 sheep to Kuwait and the UAE. All of these sheep are currently being held in a feedlot in Baldivis and will not be able to return to farm due to biosecurity regulations.

This is a live situation that we are working on with the Federal Government and the exporter.

I want to stress that we are well prepared for this situation, and have strong processes in place to manage all crew members.

We will continue to do everything we can to protect Western Australians, and prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our State."
Really sad to see the Federal Government doesn't care for the health, and cares more about the money.

Cheers! :wink:
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That criminal live animal export industry needs to be a thing of the past. It's okay to send poor hapless animals to be mistreated in third world countries with no regulations in animal treatment for a quick buck at pathetic rates. Another pathetic non value added export Australia relies on.
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Off The Rails wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:49 pm Ah, today's "What gives you the S&#T's!?" is the fact that the Federal Government allowed a ship (a live export ship, came from UAE) to dock at Fremantle, with knowledge of people on board with symptoms of Covid 19, and just happened to forget to tell the WA State Government about it.
Mark McGowan's Facebook Page wrote:"We had hoped today we would be able to announce another day of zero COVID-19 cases, after the four we recorded yesterday.

Unfortunately, instead I have some serious news to outline. So please bear with me.

There is currently a situation evolving as we speak at Fremantle Port regarding a live export ship – the Al Kuwait - that docked at Fremantle Port last Friday, the 22nd of May.

The Al Kuwait departed United Arab Emirates on the 7th of May, with a total of 48 crew on board.

This morning, seven crew members were tested for COVID-19.

Six have tested positive – all males – and are now being moved off the ship to a Perth hotel for quarantine.

This is a fast evolving situation today, involving WA Health, WA Police, Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development and Fremantle Port as well as Border Force and Australian Maritime Safety Authority.

For the time being, the remaining 42 crew members, who I am advised are currently ‘well’, will remain on board the ship and will be monitored and undergo health assessments as required.

But I suspect it is more than likely that more crew members may also become infected.

This is an extremely concerning situation that we find ourselves in.

But because of the work of all Western Australians, we are in the best possible position to deal with this type of situation.

We flattened the curve of COVID-19, we significantly reduced any community spread of the virus and our hospital system is well prepared.

A WA Health team is on board the ship to further assess the crew and provide advice around health and infection control going forward.

I know many of you will have questions – just like I had when this first came to my attention today.

Straight away I had thoughts of the cruise ship saga, and I thought these kind of situations were behind us.

It goes to show that strong border controls are important as we continue to handle this worldwide health crisis.

Now, I will just explain how we got to this point, based on a briefing I have received.

I’m advised the ship was granted permission to enter the Port of Fremantle by the Federal Government – through the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture on the 20th of May.

At that time, the pre-arrival report that was lodged by the ship reported three crew members with elevated temperatures.

On the 22nd of May, the ship provided an updated report to the Australian Border Force which included one crew member with a high temperature, plus three showing similar symptoms in last the 15 days.

This was when final clearance was provided by the Commonwealth for the ship to berth. At this point, the Fremantle Port Authority was not made aware of the health concerns.

A Fremantle Port worker, wearing PPE – went on board on the 22nd to help steer the ship into a berth at the Port – as per usual process. This person and any relevant close contacts are now in isolation.

It wasn’t until Sunday evening, that the Fremantle Port Authority learnt of some health issues on the ship.

This came by word of mouth from another worker at the port - and the information was then reported through the usual channels.

And now we find ourselves in this situation, which we are working as quickly as possible to get to the bottom of.

Clearly, this is not good.

We want to get to a resolution as soon as possible, so the ship is in a position to leave our port.

The Police Commissioner has reached out the Australian Border Forcer Commissioner and the Federal Department of Agriculture to try and get an understanding as to why the ship was allowed to berth at our port.

It was intended that live sheep be loaded onto the ship in coming days, before departing before the Federal Government’s 1 June mandatory three-month live export pause comes into effect.

The ship was due to export 56,000 sheep to Kuwait and the UAE. All of these sheep are currently being held in a feedlot in Baldivis and will not be able to return to farm due to biosecurity regulations.

This is a live situation that we are working on with the Federal Government and the exporter.

I want to stress that we are well prepared for this situation, and have strong processes in place to manage all crew members.

We will continue to do everything we can to protect Western Australians, and prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our State."
Really sad to see the Federal Government doesn't care for the health, and cares more about the money.

Cheers! :wink:
They were doing so well, now its 6 cases :evil: dang it
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12 cases. We had 2 remaining cases on Sunday, then 4 new ones (family that flew in from Doha) on Monday, and then 6 today.

Cheers! :wink:
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Off The Rails wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:49 pm Ah, today's "What gives you the S&#T's!?" is the fact that the Federal Government allowed a ship (a live export ship, came from UAE) to dock at Fremantle, with knowledge of people on board with symptoms of Covid 19, and just happened to forget to tell the WA State Government about it.
Mark McGowan's Facebook Page wrote:"We had hoped today we would be able to announce another day of zero COVID-19 cases, after the four we recorded yesterday.

Unfortunately, instead I have some serious news to outline. So please bear with me.

There is currently a situation evolving as we speak at Fremantle Port regarding a live export ship – the Al Kuwait - that docked at Fremantle Port last Friday, the 22nd of May.

The Al Kuwait departed United Arab Emirates on the 7th of May, with a total of 48 crew on board.

This morning, seven crew members were tested for COVID-19.

Six have tested positive – all males – and are now being moved off the ship to a Perth hotel for quarantine.

This is a fast evolving situation today, involving WA Health, WA Police, Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development and Fremantle Port as well as Border Force and Australian Maritime Safety Authority.

For the time being, the remaining 42 crew members, who I am advised are currently ‘well’, will remain on board the ship and will be monitored and undergo health assessments as required.

But I suspect it is more than likely that more crew members may also become infected.

This is an extremely concerning situation that we find ourselves in.

But because of the work of all Western Australians, we are in the best possible position to deal with this type of situation.

We flattened the curve of COVID-19, we significantly reduced any community spread of the virus and our hospital system is well prepared.

A WA Health team is on board the ship to further assess the crew and provide advice around health and infection control going forward.

I know many of you will have questions – just like I had when this first came to my attention today.

Straight away I had thoughts of the cruise ship saga, and I thought these kind of situations were behind us.

It goes to show that strong border controls are important as we continue to handle this worldwide health crisis.

Now, I will just explain how we got to this point, based on a briefing I have received.

I’m advised the ship was granted permission to enter the Port of Fremantle by the Federal Government – through the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture on the 20th of May.

At that time, the pre-arrival report that was lodged by the ship reported three crew members with elevated temperatures.

On the 22nd of May, the ship provided an updated report to the Australian Border Force which included one crew member with a high temperature, plus three showing similar symptoms in last the 15 days.

This was when final clearance was provided by the Commonwealth for the ship to berth. At this point, the Fremantle Port Authority was not made aware of the health concerns.

A Fremantle Port worker, wearing PPE – went on board on the 22nd to help steer the ship into a berth at the Port – as per usual process. This person and any relevant close contacts are now in isolation.

It wasn’t until Sunday evening, that the Fremantle Port Authority learnt of some health issues on the ship.

This came by word of mouth from another worker at the port - and the information was then reported through the usual channels.

And now we find ourselves in this situation, which we are working as quickly as possible to get to the bottom of.

Clearly, this is not good.

We want to get to a resolution as soon as possible, so the ship is in a position to leave our port.

The Police Commissioner has reached out the Australian Border Forcer Commissioner and the Federal Department of Agriculture to try and get an understanding as to why the ship was allowed to berth at our port.

It was intended that live sheep be loaded onto the ship in coming days, before departing before the Federal Government’s 1 June mandatory three-month live export pause comes into effect.

The ship was due to export 56,000 sheep to Kuwait and the UAE. All of these sheep are currently being held in a feedlot in Baldivis and will not be able to return to farm due to biosecurity regulations.

This is a live situation that we are working on with the Federal Government and the exporter.

I want to stress that we are well prepared for this situation, and have strong processes in place to manage all crew members.

We will continue to do everything we can to protect Western Australians, and prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our State."
Really sad to see the Federal Government doesn't care for the health, and cares more about the money.

Cheers! :wink:
SA was doing really well too - until today when a person travelling from Victoria broke our streak. Can only assume this means Victoria has very slack testing facilities if we detected almost immediately. Obviously not as bad as the WA situation, but disappointing nonetheless
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Isn't it interesting that NSW and perhaps Victoria are beating their chests over border closures? Obviously they're upset about the negative publicity following their clusters of cases....
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There should be a body temperature scanner installed at every station on the Sydney suburban and intercity rail networks all NSW regional train stations and ferry wharves to check the temperature of passengers that use the train or the ferry. There also should be something like a thermal fever checking device installed in all NSW buses and Sydney light rail trams to check the temperature of all passenger that use the bus or light rail
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The Sydney Transport Info website normally contains a string of various events for which travel arrangements are shown but of recent times there have been none but today one has appeared https://transportnsw.info/events/2020/0 ... d#homepage for the 22nd Biennale of Sydney: NIRIN at Cockatoo Island from Tuesday 16 June to Sunday 6 September . So things are returning to normal.
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In my humble opinion masks are worn by westerners to protect themselves but by Asians to protect others and also the virus is spreadable before it shows in symptoms so testing people is closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

An open letter to WHO from many doctors https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opin ... sion-67702 suggests the virus can go 10 metres so the 1.5m distancing is really a bit of a joke.

It may become mandatory to wear a mask in public like 100 years ago.
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Try telling that to Australians. They won't forgo their pleasures just like Americans, whereas other nationalities age prepared to survive. Our self indulgent natures will be our undoing and Asian countries know it.
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