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Just to remind people.
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This is good news for our South Australian friends
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-20/ ... y/12903834

South Australia to end coronavirus lockdown three days early after pizza worker's 'lie'
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He must be the most hated man in the state. He better go live elsewhere.
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Interesting view if your on the nsw/qld border police stop you for i d and having a permit people shove their mobiles out the widow at police as its on their phone then they look at it wave you through............your car is still running and its in gear with the hand brake on ....................And yet you get booked for the same thing in NSW CAR ENGINE RUNNING YOUR STOPPED USING PHONE. i do not use a mobile . JUST A THOUGHT AS i SEEN IT AT THE BORDER TODAY WILL ASK POLICE ON THE WAY BACK!
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captainch wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:09 pm Interesting view if your on the nsw/qld border police stop you for i d and having a permit people shove their mobiles out the widow at police as its on their phone then they look at it wave you through............your car is still running and its in gear with the hand brake on ....................And yet you get booked for the same thing in NSW CAR ENGINE RUNNING YOUR STOPPED USING PHONE. i do not use a mobile . JUST A THOUGHT AS i SEEN IT AT THE BORDER TODAY WILL ASK POLICE ON THE WAY BACK!
That sounds like the majority of folks. If it was me, and I had a digital permit that was on the phone, I'd personally turn the engine off and get out the car to show it to them.

Not gonna let money hungry governments cash in even further, due to an unwelcome virus finding it's way to Australia.
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i AGREE but the trouble is they tell you to STAY IN YOUR CAR do not get out but they don't say turn your engine off put hand brake on. SO TODAY AFTER GOING THROUGH THE BORDER QLD INTO NSW we stopped and walked back asked to speak to the officer in charge was told were he was asked him the question was told its exzempt because it would cause futher delays so he said if you have problems talk to your local member which I WILL DO AS ITS 2 DIFFERANT CASES SO 3 MILES DOWN THE ROAD i can be pulled up by the police and booked for have my mobile in my hand while the engine is running and hand brake not on.!
still going to see my local member on monday!
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That sounds like a catch 22. I'd want to carry a written permit in that scenario. It sounds like the government is exploiting a loophole to cash in and bring in more revenue. It would be similar to an essential worker's permit to leave 'home'.

t's not the cop's fault. They usually just follow orders.
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It certainly is TA3001.

I have crossed the QLD-NSW border a few times and I have always opted for printing a border pass.
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ON speaking to my local member today he spoke with the POLICE MINISTER and they CAN book you for the phone offence in NSW but can turn a blind eye in this case .........All you need is a good LAWYER to chalange this not that I'M condoning using your moblie while driving!
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If you can spread Covid-19 a few days before any symptoms then I think it is too late after symptoms arise therefore, I suggest random checking with out having to isolate unless positive result.
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Re: Opal Discussion and Observations

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ScaniaGrenda wrote:I doubt we'll see "protests / riots" because of masks being made compulsory, England and United states residents have no problems wearing them and really the only people chucking the grumps over being forced to use masks are your conspiracy theorists / anti mask wearers.

I use mine when going into public or on public transport. Unfortunately if you read some of the recent posts in the lunch room it's clear people still aren't getting the message and are still continuing to sneeze / cough into the open.

Edit: About costs too I partly buy it but don't buy it 100%, while this is off topic all I will state is that the Government has plenty of money to wash away on less important things & nothing is said but apparently when it comes to the real important issue suddenly it's a cost problem and can't be done or only in a limited small amount that's so small you might as well not even have bothered doing anything.
Before we make masks compulsory for passengers, let's first mandate staff to wear one.

I still see lots of bus drivers without a mask.

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CityRail wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:58 pmBefore we make masks compulsory for passengers, let's first mandate staff to wear one.

I still see lots of bus drivers without a mask.
If you are going to mandate mask wearing, it should be everyone, not just staff. Until such time as (if) it needs to become compulsory, adults can make their own risk assessment.
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CityRail wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:58 pm.Before we make masks compulsory for passengers, let's first mandate staff to wear one.

I still see lots of bus drivers without a mask.

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Bus drivers are well insulated from passing passengers, and have only very brief interaction as they pass, with no physical contact. The risks would be no greater, probably less, than walking past someone the street.

Passengers can be sitting in the one spot for extended periods of time, and would be touching surfaces used by others. A much higher risk of transmission.
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This discussion had absolutely nothing to do with Opal.
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I went up Sydney today and even though the train was half full only a couple of Asians and me wore a mask even though there was a lady at Central offering free ones out.

It is a bit more like snorkelling where you take slower deeper breaths (although I am half dusted) but once you get used to feeling odd you forget about it and when you get home you know you may have protected someone from getting it.
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Re: Opal Discussion and Observations

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I heard that, that's probably the first time I've heard Howard Collins speak. I think they should also publish lists of Opal card numbers that the contact tracers have been unable to contact due to lack of registration or out of date contact details. Too bad, no journo asked him a question about TfNSW providing masks to travellers.
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Why should TfNSW provide masks? They are readily available just about everywhere. And have to be worn in many other places.
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Perhaps transfer part of this to a new thread about provision of free masks

It should be based on the same principle as why one can obtain free condoms at specific health organisations because it good for public health.

Unfortunately COVID-19 is seen as one or more of the below rather than being solely a public health issue as it should and only be treated all along:

- China's fault
- NSW is reckless
- Victoria started it all
- West is Best etc

I have also noticed that as soon as masks were made mandatory, almost everyone was wearing a mask in public (not just in indoor areas). Imagine how many cases we would be seeing now if this was mandated sometime between March and December 2020 :roll:
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boxythingy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm
I have also noticed that as soon as masks were made mandatory, almost everyone was wearing a mask in public (not just in indoor areas). Imagine how many cases we would be seeing now if this was mandated sometime between March and December 2020 :roll:
Despite the sudden "demand" for masks, there does not seem to have been any noticeable shortage in shops in the last few days.
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Westerners still think a mask is primarily there to protect the user when it is 90% more effective in protecting others
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So if two people wearing masks are in close contact there would be 91% combined effectiveness.
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boxythingy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm Perhaps transfer part of this to a new thread about provision of free masks

It should be based on the same principle as why one can obtain free condoms at specific health organisations because it good for public health.
Maybe we should all get free umbrellas and raincoats, because not getting wet clothes would be good for public health LOL
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boronia wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:55 pm So if two people wearing masks are in close contact there would be 91% combined effectiveness.
I dont know about that as I was only referring to aerosols in an enclosed space.
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boronia wrote:
boxythingy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm Perhaps transfer part of this to a new thread about provision of free masks

It should be based on the same principle as why one can obtain free condoms at specific health organisations because it good for public health.
Maybe we should all get free umbrellas and raincoats, because not getting wet clothes would be good for public health LOL
There's a greater rationale during a pandemic to go into debt to provide basics to ensure people have the PPE required to ward off a wicked virus
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boxythingy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm
It should be based on the same principle as why one can obtain free condoms at specific health organisations because it good for public health.
That would certainly be totally effective but how do you get it over your head? :shock:
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