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The latest on New South Wales restrictions as from 15 April
https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-a ... -increases
More aboard as public transport capacity increases
Published15 Apr 2021

More people will be able to climb aboard public transport next week when capacity increases across all services to help support the State’s COVID-19 recovery.

Passengers are reminded that mask wearing is still strongly recommended on public transport when physical distancing can’t be guaranteed.

Minister for Regional Transport and Roads and Acting Minister for Transport and Roads Paul Toole said the next stage of the COVIDSafe Transport Plan rolling out on Monday would see capacity increased to about 75 per cent on city services and a return to 100 per cent capacity on regional services.

“Health advice now allows public transport services to increase capacity, which means people can now sit next to each other on their trip,” Mr Toole said.

“We know the fight against COVID isn’t over, so we’ll keep green dots on services in case we need them again down the track.

“We’ve already started to see people returning to the network, and this announcement will give customers even more confidence to use our services in a COVID-safe way.”

From Monday:

A Waratah train will now be able to carry 122 customers per carriage, up from 86
A typical two-door bus will be able to carry 66 customers, up from 42
A L1 light rail will now be able to carry 156 customers per carriage, up from 54
A Freshwater ferry will be able to carry 800 customers, up from 543.

Mr Toole said TrainLink regional rail and coach services would be booked at 100 per cent capacity from Monday, providing even more travel options for those wanting to explore regional NSW.

“It’s only through the support of our customers who have followed the COVID-safe measures across the network for the past 12 months that we’re able to take this next step forward,” Mr Toole said.

Transport for NSW Chief Operating Officer Howard Collins said other measures of the COVIDSafe Transport Plan would continue, including the enhanced cleaning regime to help keep customers COVID-safe across all services in the State.

“We are still asking customers to plan ahead before they leave home, register their Opal card for contact tracing when needed and follow good hygiene practices including staying home if unwell,” Mr Collins said.

“Wearing a face mask is still an important part in limiting the spread of the virus if there is an outbreak, and remains strongly recommended on public transport, especially during those busier times on the network.”
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eddy wrote: If the general population saw the devestating results of polio or smallpox there would be no need to make anything compulsury.
And yet in countries outside Australia with bad Covid outbreaks, people are still being stupid.
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moa999 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 12:18 pm
eddy wrote: If the general population saw the devestating results of polio or smallpox there would be no need to make anything compulsury.
And yet in countries outside Australia with bad Covid outbreaks, people are still being stupid.
We don't yet know the long-term effects of "long COVID". I know someone who is now almost 70 and has increasing effects of post-polio syndrome from having had that disease as a child.
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Although I am old and do not worry about the normal flu shot I think rather than put any doctor on the spot by asking his advice guys should get the AZ jab now as it is no more dangerous than driving.
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SBD wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 1:17 am

We don't yet know the long-term effects of "long COVID". I know someone who is now almost 70 and has increasing effects of post-polio syndrome from having had that disease as a child.
That worries me. It's the permanent effects that are unknown.
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Our unions presenting a consistent front (not) on covid management:

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The RTBU has met with the State Transit Authority and gone through the Risk Assessment process in regards to rear door loading in the current environment. That process has made it clear that there is no way for WHS to sign off on rear door loading, even with so few passengers. If people make the decision to rear door load and someone gets hurts, they are fully responsible and would be open to legal action. TfNSW agrees and for this reason the Union does not encourage the practice.
https://tramandbusexpress.com.au/faqs-f ... -covid-19/

Brisbane
The Rail, Tram and Bus Union's Tom Brown said the RTBU supported the council's preference for rear-door boarding for the majority of passengers during the pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/brisbane ... ar-AAKdn8n

TWU

NSW
The TWU and our members see that rear door loading, on buses fitted with front and rear doors, is an incredibly dangerous option for the safety of passengers.
The loading of buses by the rear door should only occur in specific sites and with full supervision at the entry point by a marshall or guide provided by Transport for NSW.
https://coastcommunitynews.com.au/centr ... vironment/

ACT and other states and territories
(ACT is part of the NSW Branch of the TWU)
The Transport Workers Union advocates rear door loading, except where disable or elderly are not able to rear door load.
https://www.bussa.asn.au/wp-content/upl ... dition.pdf

Included because its position is usually in line with unions:

NSW Labor Party
Mr Minns [then Shadow Transport Minister] suggested passengers on buses should enter and exit from the rear door to ensure drivers are protected.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... cbe1a56276

It can be noted that rear door loading is normal in any case on specific or all services in WA, SA, Victoria, ACT and Queensland. Under covid management, use of the front door is permitted for disabled people requiring the ramp. Perth buses have a suitable double-leaf, stepless rear door enabling access by all except wheelchairs. Brisbane buses have a single leaf, stepless rear door. Melbourne and Adelaide have single leaf rear doors, often with stairs in Adelaide. Canberra has single leaf rear doors, many with stairs including all new buses. NSW doesn't allow rear door boarding except under the supervision of bus stop marshalls and, while it has many city buses with double leaf rear doors, many newer buses have stairs at the rear door. NT and Tasmania don't allow rear door boarding at all.
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The differences in attitude between branches of the same entity are quite surprising.

Are Sydney bus stops really that different (or dangerous?) compared to everywhere else so as to warrant this militant attitude? Or are they paranoid about backflipping on an issue they've held such a staunch position on?
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I know one thing. We are not a clever country.
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Wahh hahahaha remember this? What a legend and a star!!
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There are many people who are sick of the lockdowns so I suggest that if doors are opened then doctors and nurses should just let nature take its course with people who do not want even the AZ jab.
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Bring back the common cold I say. Where's that been hiding through all this ?
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It sends a bad message when TV has paid sports people getting priority vaccine and going around the world while others are in lockdown, also politicians could refuse their own income so people know they identify with them.
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Centralian wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:06 pm Bring back the common cold I say. Where's that been hiding through all this ?
Bring back the years I had in the 1990s where I didn't get any.
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Who got vaccinated here? How did you get it?
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I got first shot of Astra and 2nd on 2/9/21
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EvgeniosOut wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm Who got vaccinated here?
I'm done, and currently in quarantine due to having been at a tier 1 exposure site when the infected case arrived. Two negative tests so far, so hoping the third one will be the same.
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A large part of Sydney is in hard lockdown for the next month witch means that overall obversions and maybe even general discussion entries in the Sydney/NSW discussion threads might be really low for the whole month of August
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Happily, a majority of the country doesn’t live in Sydney
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Lt. Commander Data wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:06 pm Happily, a majority of the country doesn’t live in Sydney
The Conversation has an article about how the rest of the country would suffer if Sydney's industrial base was surrounded by a Ring of Steel as Daniel Andrews proposed. Supposedly we (outside of Sydney) would suffer shortages of poultry, mushrooms, pork products and petrol, but we would have plenty of toilet paper.

The way they are going, I wonder if it's worth giving it a go for a fortnight, then only opening the gates for accredited transport operators for the following fortnight. As far as I can tell, linehaul truck and train drivers haven't been spreading the virus around, only removalist and delivery drivers. Presumably inside Sydney would have to survive on chicken, mushrooms and pork.
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And its remarkable easy to do as (Central Coast excepted) there's only about a dozen or so choke points - the bridges across the Hawkesbury, the Colo Road, the roads at Victoria Pass and an equivalent point on the Bilpin Road, then nothing until down around Alymerton then west of Albion Park and below Kiama. That sews up Sydney, the Gong and Blue Mountains.
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I wonder how the Taliban handle a lockdown now they are city folk?
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They should have no trouble implementing whatever restrictions they want since they are well practised and people, particularly women have no rights.

That is on Joe Biden and his p### weak administration.
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Personally, don't think it's worth another twenty years, trillion dollars and countless lives myself. All that time and money, and the Taliban were clearly never really defeated at all.

Were the Afghanis in a position to hold them off, did they really want a life without the Taliban in charge?
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Nobody has ever "won" in Afghanistan, not the US, not the Brits, even the Russians were in there for 20 years and never got the job done. Just let em stew in their own hell.
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1whoknows wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:49 am Nobody has ever "won" in Afghanistan, not the US, not the Brits, even the Russians were in there for 20 years and never got the job done. Just let em stew in their own hell.
What about the awesome people there who Australian soldiers told about countless times. They're caught up in it. Do you think the TB (like a disease tuberculosis) will be confined there and the rest of the world well be fine and dandy? They aim to be global as well.
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