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Happy New Year and welcome to a new decade. Thought I create a new thread of Australian Aviation for the new year

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Two new things this week!
Cathay Pacific are adding a second daily a350-900 flight to Sydney, replacing the Boeing 777 that previously operated this run. Still 4 daily flights

https://www.executivetraveller.com/cath ... -to-sydney

And another foreign airline is beginning flights from Avalon Airport. This time from Bali
Airline: Citilink
It’s actually beginning very soon, first flight begins January 24!
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Lots of flights have been cancelled from China (mainland) to Australia due to the coronavirus outbreak. One noticeably rather big news that popped up yesterday is Virgin Australia axing flights for good from Hong Kong from March 2, 2020, ending shortly after Melbourne is from next Monday (11th February, 2020). I'm not surprised, to be honest, I could see it coming with all the protests that have happened and now, THIS!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights

I reckon we might see further service reductions if the coronavirus continues to spread. Airline after airline have reduced their services from the majority of Australian airports (Melbourne, Sydney etc). I hope not, but if it continues it's definitely going to impact Australian tourism and some businesses will not like to hear such news
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It has just been announced that Virgin will suspend all flights as from tomorrow except one return Sydney Melbourne flight.
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And even VIRGIN AUSTRALIA'S Sydney to Melbourne flight is only running 6 times a week, with the service not running on Saturdays.
Virgin Australia is suspending all domestic flights except for a single Sydney-Melbourne return service, which will run once per day except for Saturdays.
Clearly Virgin are desperately trying to save cash, and yes that's not surprising, given all these restrictions and a significant reduction in travel (plus also the immediate suspension of TigerAir Australia, its subsidiary, and the lay off of all its pilots). Let's hope they get some funding to keep them going during and after the virus pandemic. I do wonder whether they will get the $1.4 billion loan they have asked the Government for.
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Not too many people are going to fly interstate if they will be subject to isolation, or complete rejection.
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A sign of the times...
Yesterday, Sunday 19.4.20, an Air Services Beech was doing "circuits and bumps" using Mascot's "third" runway.
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Around midday Monday 4.5.20, "skywriting" appeared over Sydney with "Happy sky day". What interests me is why the plane involved did not appear on the flightradar24 app. It was very high - barely visible to the naked eye.
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A lot of interesting unusual visitors to Australia over the past couple of months.

Sydney has had:
- Austrian airlines
- Saudia
- Edelweiss air
- Suparna airlines (special cargo flight from Wuhan)
- KLM
- Condor
- Antonov Design Bureau
- LOT Polish Airlines
- Sri Lankan Airlines (cargo flight)
- Iberia

Melbourne:
- El Al Israel Airlines
- Condor
- PIA Pakistan International Airlines
- HiFly A340
- Korean Air
- Asiana Airlines
- Lion Air

Brisbane
- Nepal Airlines
- Omni Air International
- Condor
- Qatar Airways

Perth
- Condor
- El Al Israel Airlines

Adelaide:
- Lion Air

Darwin:
- Omni Air International

There’s probably more I’ve missed.
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Lots of interesting operators indeed! Thanks for compiling that list, its a shame we've been in quarantine instead of out photographing all our visitors.
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Interesting that where the runway is not up to scratch they use extra wheels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZbmnYqkA9g
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Not everyone may be aware of 'Flight Radar 24'. Do a search and worth a look.
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Todays edition of The Australian has an article by Robyn Ironside, Aviation Editor, about Rex lodging a statement with the Australian Stock Exchange that it proposes to raise funds to compete with Qantas and Virgin on the Melbourne - Sydney - Brisbane 'Golden Triangle' route. Proposed start of March 2021 is quoted.

While this has been mentioned previously in the papers and media, one aviation commentator states that with 60,000 aircraft grounded across the world, the lease for a second hand Airbus A320 or Boeing 737NG could be as little as $50,000 a month. Mention is made of a possible fleet of 5 - 10 aircraft.

Of more interest to me in the article was mention of Rex having entered into a non-binding agreement with Avions De Transport Regional (ATR) to replace its current fleet of ageing 60 SAAB 340's with ATR42 and ATR72 turboprops.

Another aviation consultant is quoted as saying " Let's just hope they don't end up collapsing as a result of this new venture, and take those regional services (that they currently operate) down with them."
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As freight becomes more time sensitive, I see direct flights with 50/50 freight and passengers in the future.
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Or maybe for the next couple of the years at least or so. I expect air freight cargo will still be a high demand for a while
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Another rare visitor to is Mongolian Airlines 737 (Reg. JU-1015) which has just arrived in Perth today.
The one who catches the Perth Stadium bus like an illegal immigrant by only to gunzel for buses & trains and/or to go anywhere else.

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eddy wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:58 pm As freight becomes more time sensitive, I see direct flights with 50/50 freight and passengers in the future.
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Just a thought bubble.

I wonder if a high wing 747 with front opening and just two huge engines and many wheels could operate out of freight hubs including passengers at the rear directly to smaller airports.

This may make future freight hubs very different.

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Evidently it was a fire in the freight in Africa that caused the end of the 747 combi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcGHgJ-Q4M

Here this guy thinks they may come back again https://simpleflying.com/combi-planes-comeback/

I believe if they do then they would operate from freight hubs with the front opening for faster freight transfer perhaps in containers and passengers at the rear.
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4 Cathay Dragon A320's flying into Darwin this morning from Hong Kong. Guessing Darwin is a refuelling stop before continuing onwards.
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I'm hearing 39 Cathay Pacific aircraft will be arriving and parked at Alice Springs by the end of August. Apparently 5 Airbus A320's passed through Darwin yesterday 12 August with another 6 due today. Elsewhere its been posted that up to 100 aircraft from various airlines will be there by the year end.
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Cebu Pacific have also been parking some of their aircraft at Alice Springs (ATR propellers, A320’s, A321’s) even some very young aircraft that are at least 2 years old
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UPDATED LIST OF AIRLINES THAT HAVE MADE SPECIAL VISITS
Sydney has had:
- Austrian airlines (Repatriation Service)
- Saudia (Repatriation Service)
- Edelweiss air (Repatriation Service)
- Suparna airlines (special cargo flight from Wuhan)
- KLM (Repatriation Service)
- Condor (Repatriation Service)
- Antonov Design Bureau (Cargo flight)
- LOT Polish Airlines (Repatriation Service)
- Sri Lankan Airlines (cargo flight CMB - MEL - SYD)
- Iberia (Repatriation Service)
- Vietnam Airlines (B787X special - cargo flight?)
- South African Airways (Repatriation Service)
-American Airlines (I know they do passenger service, but due to Covid-19, they are now providing cargo using a 777)
- Philippine Airlines (B777 a rare to find - Cargo)
- Hainan Airlines (B787-9 a rare to find - Cargo)
- MIAT Mongolian Airlines (B767 - Repatriation service)

Melbourne:
- El Al Israel Airlines (Repatriation Service)
- Condor (Repatriation service)
- PIA Pakistan International Airlines (repatriation service)
- HiFly A340 (repatriation service, special service (ASY??)
- Korean Air (repatriation service)
- Asiana Airlines (Repatriation service - previously flew scheduled passenger service earlier this year)
- Lion Air (Repatriation Service)
- Nepal Airlines (Repatriation Service)
- Thai Airways (I swear I saw an a350 making a visit to MEL)
- Vietnam Airlines (Special: B787X cargo flight to MEL)
- Emirates SkyCargo (now a regular on Tuesdays - used to be a rare thing to spot)
- Philippine Airlines (B777 a rare to find - Cargo)
- Hainan Airlines (B787-9 a rare to find - Cargo)
Brisbane
- Nepal Airlines (Repatriation Service)
- Omni Air International
- Condor (Repatriation Service)
- Qatar Airways (Repatriation services - daily. Extended to October)
- Japan Airlines (Cargo flights)
- Antonov Design Bureau (Cargo flight)
Perth
- Condor
- El Al Israel Airlines (Repatriation service)
Adelaide:
- Lion Air (flew an A330 NEO - repatriation service)
- Antonov Design Bureau

Darwin:
- Omni Air International
- Cathay Dragon (fuel/stopover)
- ATI Transport International (Diversion enroute to HKG)
- Volga Dnepr (Cargo flight)

Toowoomba West Wellcamp
- Singapore Airlines (Cargo - once a week)
- Cathay Pacific (Cargo - ramped up flights. Even using a350, B777)
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Alice Springs: Airlines/Aircraft stored
Cebu Pacific (A320, A321, ATR)
Cathay Pacific (A330,B773)
Cathay Dragon (A320, A321)
Singapore Airlines (A380)
Scoot (B787-8, A320)
NokScoot (B777-200) [may be there for a little while I imagine given they ceased operations]

Avalon: Airlines/Aircraft Stored
Qantas: A330, B737
Jetstar: A320, A321, B787 (most of them)
Virgin Australia: A330, B737

———————————————————————————————————
SPECIAL CARGO FLIGHTS (they may have been mentioned above)
Sydney:
- Suparna Airlines
- Antonov Design Bureau
- Polar Air Cargo (additional services from Guam)
- Air Transport International (ATI)
- Emirates
- Airwork (New Zealand)
- Sri Lankan Airlines
- Singapore Airlines Cargo (came twice a day)
- Fedex (additional services)
- Kalitta Air (now operating daily services to Sydney)
- American Airlines
Melbourne:
- Vietnam Airlines
- Japan Airlines
- Qatar Cargo
- Emirates SkyCargo
- Cathay Pacific Cargo/Cathay Pacific
- Polar air Cargo

Adelaide:
- Singapore Airlines
- Cathay Pacific
- Antonov Design Bureau
Brisbane
- Antonov Design Bureau
- Japan Airlines
- Eva Air

Darwin:
- Qantas Freight
- ATI (Air Transport International)

Cairns:
- Qantas Freight

Toowoomba
- See above


Perth;
- Qatar Cargo
- Cathay Pacific

More to come
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