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by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

It will be the end of 149 years (if they waited another month it would be 150) of almost continuous ferry operation on the Lane Cove River. Started by the Jouberts of Hunters Hill in 1871. 1925: now Sydney Ferries Ltd and the depot at Figtree House. Lady Denman is now in the maritime museum at Jervi...
by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: NSW Electric Bus Plan
Replies: 71
Views: 9814

Re: NSW Electric Bus Plan

Got a ride on one of the new electric buses a few days ago - didn't record the fleet number, are there different models in service under the current trials, or are they all the same? (I saw there are 5 in use.) I was on #389 from Pyrmont to the City, and was pleasantly surprised how quiet it was go...
by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

This reminds me, my only published letter to the editor in the SMH is a complaint on the subject of how little information was publicly available about this Lane Cove River ferry service, despite it being a government regulated service (and partially subsidised due to inclusion in the School Studen...
by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

Just looking back in the history, Charles Rosman took over Sydney Ferries Lane Cove River services in 1950. Noakes, the present owners of Rosmans, took over in 2008 and now Rosmans only does charter so I'm figuring they divested the river service after 2008. That would fit in with Captain Cook takin...
by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

This was a Rosmans service. I haven't kept track of it but Captain Cook must have taken it over at some stage.
by tonyp
Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: From another thread off-topic

The drift of some of the professional commentary I've seen is that these changes should have been introduced gradually and with plenty of consultation, as they did in Perth, rather than as one big revolutionary change that would terrify the natives. Perhaps it's not too late to try again.
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: From another thread off-topic

I see we're suddenly on "another thread off topic" but it's still about the bus deliveries, just focused on the artics component of that. May be you and I should start discussions by email. You're welcome to get in touch Tim. The south coast is the most beautiful part of NSW - unbiased opinion of co...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: From another thread off-topic

So while the combo design has drawbacks in terms of dwell time and ease of movement for mobility-impaired passengers, it is very clear they offer benefits when large numbers of passengers are travelling a greater distance. The Canberra combos, which have no centre door and a double-leaf rear door (...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: From another thread off-topic

In all the bus designs I've looked at over the years, given all parameters being the same in the comparison, a bus with a stepless gangway has the same number of seats as one with steps. It's the number and width of doors that has an effect on seating capacity. Edit: I'm trying to establish whether ...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: NSW Electric Bus Plan
Replies: 71
Views: 9814

Re: NSW Electric Bus Plan

Having travelled on them a fair bit, both here and overseas, you must be a hard person to please if you find them noisy.With its London and subsidiary having also purchased electrics, Transit Systems have probably already done quite a bit of evaluating. The BYDs I've ridden in are noisy. The Yutong...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: CBD & South East Light Rail
Replies: 5470
Views: 847248

Re: CBD & South East Light Rail

lunchbox wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:40 pm What's the purpose of the exterior orange light on the 4 x quarter panels of the Eastern Suburbs trams??
Are they part of a set of side marker lights along the sides of the tram so that they don't get T boned at night?
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: NSW Electric Bus Plan
Replies: 71
Views: 9814

Re: NSW Electric Bus Plan

eddy wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:34 pm
The thing that worried me was they weighed nearly 15t which only allowed 1t for passengers or they would be overloaded.
That's the problem with battery buses. That and interior space/seating. The Europeans do that best.
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: NSW Electric Bus Plan
Replies: 71
Views: 9814

Re: NSW Electric Bus Plan

Think most of the Euro electrics are on too wide a base. A few orders means nothing to the Chinese bus manufacturers It's the drive train and/or power system that they're sourcing in Europe, not the actual chassis as I understand. Otherwise the local manufacturers wouldn't have made the deals if th...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: Scania/Custom Deliveries

Well it is International Day of People with Disability today and mobility impairment extends to a lot more needs than some token gesture to just wheelchairs down the front. Nearly 20% of the population have some form of mobility issue, besides which being stairless is a general benefit to movement a...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: NSW Electric Bus Plan
Replies: 71
Views: 9814

Re: NSW Electric Bus Plan

Sewing up deals with Chinese companies is now fraught with risk, as well as being politically highly unpopular. The government should be looking to those local manufacturers who have partnered with European electric bus/component manufacturers and giving them a chance to produce and trial their prod...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

Re: Scania/Custom Deliveries

The O-Bahn video is from 2014 and thus predates the introduction of all-door loading on the O-Bahn. Yes I know. The point was to show what it might be like with double deckers which are very slow loading and unloading. It would be interesting to see a video from the same position today since all-do...
by tonyp
Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: From another thread off-topic
Replies: 20
Views: 413

From another thread off-topic

DD's would have worked well on the O-Bahn services (few stops and express running, with high passenger loads) but the bridges and tunnel were not built for DD's. Evidently not, according to this video (and commentary) that shows the extraordinary dwell times on the O Bahn even with Combos (starts 3...
by tonyp
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

The Steyne isn't going to be union crewed which is why it isn't getting the headlines. That was somehow sorted on previous cruises. The ship obviously requires a very specialised engineering crew that knows the boat. Damage is possible if people unfamiliar with it are on the job unsupervised. Anywa...
by tonyp
Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

Quite honestly I think from a few years after the big boats are gone, if not sooner, most tourists won't give a fig about the type of boat and will be grateful for both the ride (which is still 20 minutes out on the water) and getting to Manly and back to the Quay quicker and more frequently so they...
by tonyp
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:27 am
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: Scania/Custom Deliveries
Replies: 61
Views: 2025

Re: Scania/Custom Deliveries

Is the Phoenix actually a low floor or a low entry? The rear side window cutouts on the Endeavour are probably the same on the inside face of the side bulkhead as the CB 80. It's just that the bonded glazing on the outside has been applied in a continuous straight line. Same as the Volgren Optimus. ...
by tonyp
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Ferry Observations 2020
Replies: 123
Views: 18339

Re: Ferry Observations 2020

It was talk of whether the Emeralds would ever be icons like the Routemaster that lead to the tangent. The iconic Manly ferries that everybody associated with Sydney were the PJMS Co. ones and their predecessors from Phantom in 1859 through to South Steyne and North Head with the latter running unt...
by tonyp
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Discussion - Adelaide / SA
Topic: Scania/Custom Deliveries
Replies: 61
Views: 2025

Re: Scania/Custom Deliveries

Tonyp's point regarding the step free access for all door boarding on the artics is valid, but I am not familiar with roads in the Shoalhaven region (despite having attended a couple of BusNSW conferences there!), but as an example of road profile problems here in Adelaide, a few of the bus routes,...

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