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I visited the area concerned at about 10.15 this morning with 3 buses parked there none of which I had seen before. Photos taken of al three. The one bus which could be identified in the article I had seen before but was not there. So a fifth one is still to be identified.

I now have taken photos of 13 of these buses in the last three months.
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iamthouth wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:11 pm TfNSW spokesperson is wrong and council is right. State road, TfNSW decide.
Turning on the State Roads reference layer on https://maps.transport.nsw.gov.au/egeom ... ccess-bus/ shows that.

Lynch is also right, the spots are not line marked, so longer vehicles can park. Residents or car owners do not have a higher right to the parking there.
TfNSW accreditation conditions stipulate that the operator must have nominated off street parking for all their vehicles.

Street parking is regulated by traffic acts/regulations which can be enforced by councils regardless of whether state or local. Generally vehicles over 4.5 t GVW are limited to 1 hour.
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The three buses I took photos of this morning in the Kinsway.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 516250480/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 515987003/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 516251245/
And XO89IG which was identified in the article and of which I took a photo in December last year
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 396765489/
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Universal Bus Service is a name only registered 12/2/2022 and as all the buses concerned were registered after that date, it looks as though they would not have operated with Maianbar Bundeena Bus Service under their current registrations.
XO89IG which is the bus that carries the Maianbar identification caried the TV 1110 registration from 2019 to 2022 which does appear to have been with Maianbar.
XO05IH ex TV319A, XO80IH ex TV320A and XO81IH ex TV321A may also have been in that situation.
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There are several others in Port Hacking Road.
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boronia wrote: TfNSW accreditation conditions stipulate that the operator must have nominated off street parking for all their vehicles.
That is my understanding. But if the buses are not displaying accreditation details, are they accredited at all? If Universal are performing work for the Department of Education as indicated, they would need to be accredited. Bit of a faux pas from Maianbar Bundeena BS to not remove its accreditation before disposing of a bus. Bit like selling a car or vacating a property, you make sure that all the relevant authorities are aware that you are no longer the owner / lessee.
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1whoknows wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:31 am There are several others in Port Hacking Road.
Yes I mentioned this in my first post on this. There are four of them.
Two of them are - taken on 23rd December
XO02IH https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 415694693/

XO96BK https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 415530981/
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Linto63 wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:25 am
boronia wrote: TfNSW accreditation conditions stipulate that the operator must have nominated off street parking for all their vehicles.
That is my understanding. But if the buses are not displaying accreditation details, are they accredited at all? If Universal are performing work for the Department of Education as indicated, they would need to be accredited. Bit of a faux pas from Maianbar Bundeena BS to not remove its accreditation before disposing of a bus. Bit like selling a car or vacating a property, you make sure that all the relevant authorities are aware that you are no longer the owner / lessee.
""They are performing a service for schools and the community, and I don't think they are taking away parking space from anyone.""
No mention of the Department of Education. They are probably dealing direct with schools who may not be aware of accreditation requirements.
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Maybe not government schools per se, but schools that are probably majority government funded, not GPS or similar. Speaking of which, it appears that Kinetic has lost its long held Scots College work, with a few North Sydney Bus Charters vehicles stabled in the eastern most platform at Edgecliff Interchange during the day this week as Kinetic vehicles previously did. Kinetic, or Marrickville Bus Lines as it was then, has held this contract since ABC Coachlines when bust in the late 1980s, and was the beginning of its transforming from a route operator with a handful of buses to the 70 vehicle charter operator its is today.

Operators parking buses in streets causing problems with the locals is nothing new. Recall North & Western stabling buses on the streets of Gladesville was a constant issue for the local council in the 1990s. The operator had purchased a site next to the State Transit's Ryde depot in Buffalo Road, but the council wouldn't approve the development application, so it just went around in circles for years.
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It was a long tradition with HHBC. Church Street Depot (Manny photo I think)):

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They provided a bit of shade as I walked along this footpath to school.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:44 am
1whoknows wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:31 am There are several others in Port Hacking Road.
Yes I mentioned this in my first post on this. There are four of them.
Two of them are - taken on 23rd December
XO02IH https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 415694693/

XO96BK https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 415530981/
XO96BK has now been replaced in Port Hacking Road by MO99BK - still need to get a photo of it.
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Linto63 wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:16 am Operators parking buses in streets causing problems with the locals is nothing new. Recall North & Western stabling buses on the streets of Gladesville was a constant issue for the local council in the 1990s. The operator had purchased a site next to the State Transit's Ryde depot in Buffalo Road, but the council wouldn't approve the development application, so it just went around in circles for years.
Bowden's Tamarama was another operator who got the ire of locals with a few of his buses often parked along Carrington Rd at the top of Queens Park.
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Just heard on the radio that Transit Systems have won the Bankstown line conversion bus replacement contract
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:22 pm Just heard on the radio that Transit Systems have won the Bankstown line conversion bus replacement contract
No surprises there, biggest operator in Sydney with heaps of buses and drivers. Even then they’ll still said there will be shortages for the closure, so most likely they’ll draft in other operators too.
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BAMBAM wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:23 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:22 pm Just heard on the radio that Transit Systems have won the Bankstown line conversion bus replacement contract
No surprises there, biggest operator in Sydney with heaps of buses and drivers. Even then they’ll still said there will be shortages for the closure, so most likely they’ll draft in other operators too.
Transit Systems would have enough buses to do the contract even if they need to have to dead run buses between Sydenham and Smeaton Grange but they could only use all 4 region 6 depots along with Bankstown and South Granville for buses with Hoxton Park and Macquarie Fields as stand by for if those 6 depots don't have enough buses
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:22 pm Just heard on the radio that Transit Systems have won the Bankstown line conversion bus replacement contract
Which radio station, if you don't mind me asking?
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What impacts will this have on 870/871/872, buses get cancelled without notice with no info on the apps.
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Transport Buff wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:13 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:22 pm Just heard on the radio that Transit Systems have won the Bankstown line conversion bus replacement contract
Which radio station, if you don't mind me asking?
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boxythingy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:15 pm What impacts will this have on 870/871/872, buses get cancelled without notice with no info on the apps.
In theory It would not have anymore impact on these routes than on any other routes but what will happen is anyone's guess.
As stated some services or routes will be outsourced to other operators. As long as it is not too much to U-G Mobility as this could give them another excuse to further postpone the return to full timetables.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:29 pm
XO96BK has now been replaced in Port Hacking Road by MO99BK - still need to get a photo of it.
Got a photo of it today.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 520187590/

There was another swap at Port Hacking Road but all had a previous photo taken,

At The Kingsway there was a fourth bus today XO89IG of which I had a previous photo which does not show the Maianbar accreditation it carries. But in the windscreen it still showed its previous rego TV 1110.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 396765489/

The only other bus on which I have seen the Maianbar accreditation is XO03IH of which I took a photo on 6th December but has not been seen at either Port Hacking Road or the Kingsway.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/193972346 ... 154655013/
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boxythingy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:15 pm What impacts will this have on 870/871/872, buses get cancelled without notice with no info on the apps.
There would most likely be timetable alterations to cater for the conversion replacement period
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:23 pm
boxythingy wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:15 pm What impacts will this have on 870/871/872, buses get cancelled without notice with no info on the apps.
There would most likely be timetable alterations to cater for the conversion replacement period
One would hope NOT.
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https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-a ... -for-wilba
Outback bus service secured after Bourke goes wild for Wilba
Published9 Feb 2024

A community bus named Wilba will remain on the streets of Bourke following confirmation of funding to extend a trial of the popular public transport service.

Wilba, the Empower bus, has carried out more than 2,000 trips in its first 12 months of operation and enabled hundreds of local residents to access safe and reliable transport at an affordable price in a town with no other public transport options.
Full PDF is available at https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system ... elease.pdf
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Fleet Lists wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:33 pm https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-a ... -for-wilba
Outback bus service secured after Bourke goes wild for Wilba
Published9 Feb 2024

A community bus named Wilba will remain on the streets of Bourke following confirmation of funding to extend a trial of the popular public transport service.

Wilba, the Empower bus, has carried out more than 2,000 trips in its first 12 months of operation and enabled hundreds of local residents to access safe and reliable transport at an affordable price in a town with no other public transport options.
Full PDF is available at https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system ... elease.pdf
They had a setback last year when their first bus was stolen and burnt out.

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Fleet Lists wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:26 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:23 pm There would most likely be timetable alterations to cater for the conversion replacement period
One would hope NOT.
There would be timetable changes on the rail network due to the Bankstown line being converted to metro so why not do wholesale system wide timetable changes for all modes
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