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How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

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Re: How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

Postby Merc1107 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:26 pm

tonyp wrote:This is the Perth model. I hope they plan and implement it properly and pull it off as successfully as Perth. Sydney and Canberra are also heading down this path.
It's also worth noting that while a lot of Perth's travel is based on interchange, there are a handful of instances where this isn't the case given forcing interchange so close to the city can often result in longer journey times. So I echo your sentiments here in hoping they plan and implement it properly, recognising where a one-seat journey has its merit.
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Re: How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:51 am

The only problems with some of these connections mentioned above is lack of infrastructure. It's not just a case of simply adjusting bus services.

Stop 14 at Mitcham has no indent on the eastern side and articulated buses could block access to the car park entrance on the western side. Plus where would buses turn around from an outbound trip to an inbound trip?

At Glenelg, you cannot have buses starting and finishing at stop 16 on Jetty Rd as this would have to be a timepoint and you can't have a bus blocking the whole road waiting for the clock to tick over. It isn't that far from the tram stop to the bus stops at Moseley Square/Glenelg Interchange, but a lot more directional signage is needed to promote tram & bus services to each other.

With Blackwood & surrounding areas served by buses, unfortunately it is far quicker to travel by car to the city than an indirect, slow train service, plus a connecting bus. If you travel to anywhere south of about Currie St/Grenfell St or towards Pulteney St it is also quicker to travel by car than by bus, train, and a city connector bus or similar.

Train services need to be made faster. Seaford trains should not have to crawl out of stations because of the signalling system. Once the doors close, it should be full power and the top speeds in places are a little lower than desirable. Having so many stations close together certainly doesn't help either. Unfortunately in SA it is too political to close stations to benefit the majority when the minorities always whinge so loudly.

Tram services must have priority through the city, and not be held up so much between Glenelg and the city. You only need to look at Melbourne or the Gold Coast to see how tram priority should work.

Bus infrastructure is severely lacking in places. Bus interchanges that are welcoming and inviting, bus driver toilet facilities & bus lanes or 'B' lights are severely lacking which impacts reliability and travel times, and puts people off from using public transport.
$2,500 fines for vehicles illegally using red Bus Only lanes - could cut the state's debt real quickly if they extended that to regular Bus Lanes!
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Re: How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

Postby jibb » Thu May 02, 2019 10:25 pm

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Re: How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

Postby Eurostar » Sun May 12, 2019 8:23 pm

Remove the 222 services. Change the 224 to run to and from the city via Port Wakefield Road. Change the 228F to 228. Extend 225M to Gepps Cross via Mawson Lakes Boulevard, extend 229 (feeder) to Gepps Cross (25). Maintain the 224X and 228X but change 225F/X, 229F/X to 225 and 229 to maintain the Main North Road Go Zone.
Next station is Victoria Square. Change here for all trains.
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Re: How bus revamp will get commuters moving faster.

Postby TA3001 » Wed May 15, 2019 12:55 am

Deducting 10 minutes from the schedules of inbound 178s, and 5 minutes from that of inbound 174s in arvo peak may help a little.

There is far too much dwelling with Payneham Rd services in afternoon peak, particularly inbound. It's the same schedule as outbound, but with a third of the patronage, and less potential delays.
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