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Re: TV plates

Postby Daniel » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:24 am

Here you go LB608:
http://fleetlists.busaustralia.com/NSW-active_TV.php
Sure, we don’t have every TV plate but we do the best we can.
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:31 am

Thank You DANIEL
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am

TV 9929 12/8/2018 Brighton Coach Coaster

TV 9939 ? Higer
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:30 pm

TV 9959 27/8/2018 Dunn Group Australia Yutong
Tv 9960 27/8/2018 Dunn Group Australia Yutong
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:04 pm

TV 9964 M/B NCV3
TV 9965 Toyota Communter
Getting closer to 9999
TV9382 6/9/2018 Cenwestours Forbes M/B 0303-3
TV 9966 Fuso Rosa
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:02 am

TV 9887 Berry Bus Service 14/9/2018 Denair
TV 9249 Rover Motors Denning Phoenix
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Re: TV plates

Postby stajourneyman » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:53 pm

So, do we have any word yet on the new series of plates?

Something has to break shortly, as they've been in the 9900 series since July.
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:32 pm

The last 2 plates have not been issued before,so i guess they are using all the unused ones first
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Re: TV plates

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:06 pm

There are plenty of lower number plates available for reissue.
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Re: TV plates

Postby stajourneyman » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:15 pm

Actually, I have no idea why there are so many unissued plates throughout the series.

You would think that they would be issued somewhere over the next year or so at the latest.

There are numerous TV plates that should have been issued years ago that have never seen the light of day.
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Re: TV plates

Postby stajourneyman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:02 pm

I notice that the distribution of TV.99xx series plates seems to have stalled.

There have been no reported sightings of additional plates for well over a month now.

Do we have any word yet on the future beyond TV.9999?

Is the NSW bus industry about to be inflicted with those hideous new National Heavy Vehicle plates?

If so, would it just be those that would qualify for TV plates, or across the board?

Would they replace existing plates within the first 12 months ie when rego falls due, or just be handed out for fresh truck and bus registrations?

So many questions! :? :? :?
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Re: TV plates

Postby LB608 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:27 pm

There have been alot issued in the 64xx to 99xx series in the past month mostly in the 98 series
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Re: TV plates

Postby bjg154 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:40 am

stajourneyman wrote:Is the NSW bus industry about to be inflicted with those hideous new National Heavy Vehicle plates?

The short answer is no.

From http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/registration/hv-registration-changes.html:

A national heavy vehicle plate will be issued in NSW whenever:
a new heavy vehicle is registered
an unregistered heavy vehicle is re-registered
an interstate(without the national heavy vehicle plates) vehicle transfers into NSW
a lost, damaged, destroyed or stolen number plate is replaced
This does not include heavy tow trucks, public passenger buses and NSW Conditional Registration Scheme customers.
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Re: TV plates

Postby burrumbus » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:22 am

So our great system of TV ,metropolitan and country mo plates will remain.Great stuff.There are still plenty of gaps in the issues of TV plates -so I do not think there will be much change for a fair period.
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Re: TV plates

Postby Linto63 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:23 pm

A Murrays BCI is carrying the TV9991 plates. At least those who have been getting themselves worked up over what happens next don't have long to wait. :D My bet, would be recycle those that have been handed back in.
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Re: TV plates

Postby stajourneyman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:29 pm

Linto63 wrote:At least those who have been getting themselves worked up over what happens next don't have long to wait.


Err, ...that's probably overstating things a little bit!

In my situation, at least, I am reasonably curious as to what the future holds, given that the current series has been in use for well over 50 years.

That curiousity has been dampened, somewhat, with them now dredging up an unknown quantity of unissued plates for an unknown future period.

Of more curiousity, however, is the situation with the new heavy vehicle plates.

So,... it originally seemed that ALL heavy vehicles across Australia were to to comply with the wearing of these plates.

If I have it right, it now seems that Queensland buses and coaches DO need to wear them (some already allocated), but NSW ones DO NOT.

In fact, NSW heavy vehicles, ie trucks AND buses, can wear personalised plates if they choose.

Without starting a constitutional argument, I would have thought that what the Commonwealth says, goes.
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Re: TV plates

Postby boronia » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:07 pm

Vehicle registration and road usage are state controlled. All these "national" laws are not binding on the states, they can only agree to co-operate. West Australia has rejected the scheme (and lots of others) altogether, so it is possible that other states can apply "exemptions".
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Re: TV plates

Postby gen man » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:33 pm

Linto63 wrote:A Murrays BCI is carrying the TV9991 plates. At least those who have been getting themselves worked up over what happens next don't have long to wait. :D My bet, would be recycle those that have been handed back in.


They also have:
TV9988
TV9989
TV9990.
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Re: TV plates

Postby Linto63 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:53 pm

stajourneyman wrote:Err, ...that's probably overstating things a little bit!
You have asked the same question half a dozen times in the past 18 months. If somebody here does know, they obviously aren't going to share. The recycling of returned plates is probably the most plausible scenario, this is what has happened with the m/o plates. There probably will come a time when this is option is exhausted, but that could be decades away.

stajourneyman wrote:Of more curiousity, however, is the situation with the new heavy vehicle plates.
My understanding is that they are a replacement for the Federal Interstate series, the green on yellow NV23AB, QV23AB etc plates, the first letter representing the state where issued. Recall they sometimes appeared on coaches many years ago, but can't recall seeing any in recently.
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Re: TV plates

Postby boronia » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:29 pm

THey are an extension of the old Federal plates, (and the even older IS* plates that were around in the 1970s). The old plates could only be used on trucks operating solely on interstate haulage.

In my situation, at least, I am reasonably curious as to what the future holds, given that the current series has been in use for well over 50 years.
The current TV series began around 1982-83 and initially used 3 digit numbers from TV-000, so they could issue TV-0000 to 0999 straight off, before recycling cancelled plates.
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Re: TV plates

Postby Linto63 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:15 am

Three digit TV plates were around in the 1970s being gold lettering on a black background. They began to be issued in the current black on metallic yellow in about 1980.
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Re: TV plates

Postby boronia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:52 pm

The gold/black plates were withdrawn at the time and replaced by the black/yellow style. They were allocated in batches to the six metro companies that had tourist licences. I was driving for one of the companies at the time of the change over, which would put it about 1982 (I might dig out my old log books for reference). The country issued gold plates lasted a couple of years longer before they were all replaced.
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Re: TV plates

Postby bjg154 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:42 pm

boronia wrote:The country issued gold plates lasted a couple of years longer before they were all replaced.

There were at least a couple of gold-on-black TV plates that lasted much longer.

Kiama Coachlines operated a MAN 22.360 with Coach Design from new in 5/1994 on gold-on-black TV 624 plates. Another Kiama MAN, this one a midi with an Alan B. Denning body, became TV 624 from the late 1990s until 7/2009, but I don't know the colour of the plates when used on that coach.

Meanwhile, in 2008 Jindabyne Coaches was operating a Toyota Coaster on gold TV 629 plates. I don't know when this registration expired.
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Re: TV plates

Postby burrumbus » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:36 pm

TV 629 plates did indeed adorn that Coaster owned by a Mr.Dykstra.They were historical plates dating back to at least the 1960'S on vehicles owned by early Snowy Mountains bus pioneer Rudy Hamer.
For Ben.TV 624 MAN/ABD did indeed wear the gold on black plates too.That particular bus worked much of the public route timetable from new.
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Re: TV plates

Postby Daniel » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:46 pm

As predicted, RMS are starting to re-issue gaps in the TV plate range starting in the low 1000s. TV 1089 is one example on a Higer.
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