Rails wrote:I will say that I think that the Metro would have been better running along the Airport line to Revesby rather than the Bankstown line. However I understand why they did it this way. I still think that post 2030 the Airport line should be converted to Metro or at a minimum Single Deck trains.
I'm one of those people, so ** you. I have a differing opinion and have a right to be heard. Time will tell whether the right decisions have been made.Rails wrote:Its all history now and I don't know why certain people cant get past this stuff but the original NW Metro proposal was not superior to what we are getting! Is this for real? What part is better?
The small 5 carriage max trains running 22-24 TPH without decent changes?
The duplication of a corridor to Epping just opened in the form of the ECRL?
Lack of direct access for the NWRL to Macquarie Uni, Macquarie Park, North Ryde and Chatswood?
Lack of direct access for the NWRL St Leonards, Crows Nest, North Sydney and Barangaroo?
Not building a proper Barangaroo station?
Continuing to service the important ECRL corridor with 4-6TPH unreliable and slow loading DD?
Trying to interchange a very large number of NWRL passengers bound for these locations at Epping to that 4-6 TPH?
Limiting the Shore with as low as 14 TPH just as you're building units along the rail line?
Entrenching the Cityrail tradition of branching and mixing lines instead of separating and enabling rationalisation?
Not implementing a true backup path for the Shore line that so often breaks the system due to that entrenched tradition?
Giving in particular North Sydney but also St Leonards/ Crows Nest modern stations that can actually deal with the crowds that use them?
Not building a line that will actually allow for the much needed upgrade of Wynyard And Town Hall?
Missing out on running 30 TPH reliable, automated, fast loading SD trains along the Global economic Corridor from the CBD to the Shore and ECRL?
Serving a single direction, peak only corridor vs a corridor that is well utilised in both directions throughout the day?
Serving a small number of passengers at commuter stops like Top Ryde, Monash Park, Gladesville, and Drummoyne with 22-30 TPH over major employment destinations that all of Sydney accesses like Macquarie Park, North Ryde, Chatswood, St Leonards and North Sydney?
If you're one of those people that believe that people only use trains to get from the outer suburbs to the CBD you may think it better.
If you're one of those people who believe that Single Deck trains can only be used for short spaced inner suburban trips you may think its better.
If you're one of those people that believe Sydney trains is the pinnacle of transport and cant be improved on then you may think its better.
If you're one of those people that believe that a 15 min service is good PT and no one ever changes trains then you may think its better.
If you're one of those people that thinks that 6 months of bus replacement outweighs substantial long term benefits then you may think its better.
If you're one of those people that feels that Sydney trains is a protected species, never to be touched rather than a train line owned by the people that should work for the people then you may think its better.
If you're one of those people you're not to be listened to.
quaidy wrote:Problem is that there is nothing very exciting along the East Hills line, at least the Bankstown line has some preexisting larger urban districts (marrickville, campsie, Bankstown) and room to upscale.
quaidy wrote:
Problem is that there is nothing very exciting along the East Hills line, at least the Bankstown line has some preexisting larger urban districts (marrickville, campsie, Bankstown) and room to upscale.
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Fleet Lists wrote:It looks like a draft to me as there does not appear to be a link to it yet from the news home page - it can be found by a search but that is not unusual for a draft so whether it is mid 2019 or whatever other sources you are referring to, it is open to the May/June timeslot.
I think it will come up with a different URL when it is formally released.
If you need assistance you can approach a Customer Journey Co-ordinator or use the video help point at a Metro Station.
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rogf24 wrote:I just saw it passing Chatswood station. Wow
tonyp wrote:It would be nice on that page if, under "getting to the station", they put buses at the top of the list rather than last. Obviously TfNSW doesn't "think public transport" very well.
I falter a little over their claim to be the first fully accessible railway in Australia. I suppose they are in a semantic sense, comparing a single line with entire systems elsewhere, so they've chosen their words carefully. However, they have a very close challenger in Perth and - if one compares a single line with a single line - the 110 km north-south line in Perth would trounce them. One important way in which they are following Perth is to become the second railway system in Australia in which it is possible to ride a wheelchair or trolley between the platform and the train carriage without the aid of a ramp.
simonl wrote:
What are the non-accessible parts of the Perth network? I was surprised to notice even the old parts of the network had negligible vertical gap boarding. Didn't see an exception to this, although I didn't see that much of it.
simonl wrote:Only 4000 spaces, thought it was going to be more than that! A lot of the new stations except Castle Hill have low density nearby, so not sure what they are thinking here.
rogf24 wrote:I just saw it passing Chatswood station. Wow
Frosty wrote:Interesting they have a small fence separating Sydney Trains & Metro Tracks I wouldn't know why though ?
mandonov wrote:It's for operator safe working. These are two separate systems operated from two separate control centres, so if there is track work on one but not the other then there needs to be separation to protect workers. Similarly if there's an emergency and passengers need to walk along the track, there needs to be physical separation.
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