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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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For those of you who utilise Transwa services, effective as of September 30th:
https://www.transwa.wa.gov.au/Home/Plan ... -esperance

The lowdown:
1. The Esp-Kal bus used to leave Esperance at 2pm on a Sunday, with the return service leaving Kalgoorlie at 2.30pm on Monday
2. Then the Sunday bus time was changed to 8am, with the return service still the same time on Monday
3. It was not that long ago (this year) that the Sunday morning bus returned on Sunday evening, meaning if you went up on Friday & didn't come home on Sunday, you'd have to wait until Wednesday for the next service
4. And now there's no more services on Sunday: up & back on Mon, Wed & Fri
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Henley Brook Bus Station is finally opening on 3rd November, about 1 and a half weeks from now.
Transperth Website wrote:Henley Brook Bus Station opens and changes to routes 335, 336, 337, 353, 355 and 955
Sun 03 Nov
Henley Brook Bus Station will open on Sunday 3 November, resulting in changes to routes 335, 336, 337, 353, 355 and 955 and School Special 750.

These services will undergo a route change and no longer service Ellenbrook Transfer Station, which will close.

Henley Brook Bus Station will open with:

Improved passenger shelter
Passenger pick up and drop off areas
Public toilets
Bike parking facilities
Over 300 parking bays.

Services will depart from the following stands:

Stand 2
Route 335 to Midland Station
Route 353 to Bassendean Station via Brabham and Dayton
Route 355 to Whitfords Station
School Route 750 to La Salle College via Swan Christian College.

Stand 3
Route 955 to Morley Bus Station via Bassendean Station.

Stand 4
Route 336 to Ellenbrook (Galatea Pass) via Ellenbrook Town Centre
Route 337 to Ellenbrook Town Centre via Aveley.

Stand 5
Route 335 to Ellenbrook Town Centre
Route 355 to Ellenbrook Town Centre
School Route 750 to Ellenbrook Town Centre.

Stand 6
Route 955 to Ellenbrook North via Ellenbrook Town Centre.
Updated timetables have not yet been made available to the website, nor has the station access map.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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Bus Suggestions wrote:Henley Brook Bus Station is finally opening on 3rd November, about 1 and a half weeks from now.

Updated timetables have not yet been made available to the website, nor has the station access map.
The online timetables are updated on Monday, and the PDFs should be around the corner by Thursday.

Showing that there's no time changes through, only the stop changes in the new PDFs.

Timetables updated:
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Is 300 parking bays really going to be sufficient?


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Henley Brook is, I believe, the first and only station to have the bus route/information panel map uploaded to the website: Henley Brook Bus Station Map
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The station access map and parking map for Henley Brook Bus Station is available now.

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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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Some proposed came out of nowhere. Must be something related with the reshuffle contract next january and i was shock to see the proposed change and some route they replace.
Transperth website wrote: Proposed changes to Wanneroo Rd and Mirrabooka area services

Mon 11 Mar - Fri 22 Mar

We are inviting the public to comment on proposed changes to routes 344, 355, 371, 376, 377, 378, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389 and 450, in addition to the introduction of routes 374, 375, 448, 449 and the withdrawal of routes 352, 365, 372 and 469.

These proposed changes would provide more direct services and improved access to the Joondalup Line, Perth CBD and activity centres, including Mirrabooka Shopping Centre.

They would also improve the coordination of bus services along Wanneroo Rd reducing wait times, while better matching service levels to demand.

We will be available to discuss the proposed service changes at:

Kingsway City Shopping Centre
Thursday 21 November - 2.00pm to 7.00pm
Saturday 23 November - 9.00am to 1.00pm

Mirrabooka Square Shopping Centre
Saturday 23 November - 9.00am to 5.00pm

Perth Busport
Monday 25 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Whitfords Station
Tuesday 26 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Warwick Station
Wednesday 27 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Mirrabooka Bus Station
Thursday 28 November - 2.30pm to 5.30pm

Alexander Heights Shopping Centre
Thursday 5 December - 2.00pm to 7.00pm

If you are unable to attend the sessions but would like to provide feedback, you can e-mail communityconsultation@pta.wa.gov.au before 5.00pm on Friday 20 December 2019. Please note you will not receive a reply to your submission.

Services are proposed to undergo the following changes:

Route 344 – Warwick Station to Morley Bus Station
Would undergo minor time changes.

Route 355 – Ellenbrook Town Centre to Whitfords Station
Time Changes and Minor Route Change
Would no longer operate on Gnangara Rd between Wanneroo Rd and Mirrabooka Ave and be replaced by an extended Route 376 in this section
Would operate centrally through the Wangara Industrial Area on Distinction Rd and Prindiville Dr replacing the Route 469
Would undergo minor time changes
Route 355 Map.

Route 371 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Additional trips would run Monday to Friday
Frequency would be increased from every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes on Saturdays.

Route 374 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station
New Route
A new service would run between Whitfords Station and Mirrabooka Bus Station via Gnangara Rd, Russell Rd, Ashdale Bvd, Evandale Rd, Highclere Bvd, Girrawheen Av and Balga Av, partially replacing routes 352, 365 and 372
Route 374 is proposed to operate weekdays and weekends as follows:
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak and on weekends.
Route 374 Map.

Route 375 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station
New Route
A new service would run between Alexander Heights Shopping Centre and Mirrabooka Bus Station via Jefferson Dr, Hainsworth Av, Finchley Cr, Fernhurst Cr, Arkana Rd and Majella Rd, partially replacing routes 365, 372 and 377
Route 375 is proposed to operate weekdays and weekends as follows:
Every 10-20 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 60 minutes on weekends.
Route 375 Map.

Route 376 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes and Major Route Change
Route 376 would operate the same route between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Landsdale with a proposed extension from Landsdale to Whitfords Station replacing Route 355 on Gnangara Rd through Landsdale and Wangara
Route 376 would also replace Route 352 in providing a link between Landsdale and Whitfords Station
Route 376 is proposed to operate on weekdays and weekends as follows:

Between Landsdale and Mirrabooka Bus Station
Every 10-15 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 30 minutes on Saturdays and every 60 minutes on Sundays.

Between Landsdale and Whitfords Station
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
No weekend service.
Route 376 Map.

Route 377 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes and Minor Route Change
The service would no longer serve Rawlinson Dr, Jefferson Dr and Marangaroo Dr (between Jefferson Dr and Mirrabooka Ave) and would be replaced by Route 375 in this area
Would undergo minor time changes
Route 377 Map.

Route 378 – Alexander Heights to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes
A small number of trips with low patronage would be withdrawn.

Route 384 – Mirrabooka Bus Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Additional trips would run on weekdays.

Routes 385 and 386 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Perth Busport
Time Changes and Major Route Change
Would travel a new route between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Princess Rd. These services would run via Hepburn Ave, Highclere Bvd, Girrawheen Ave and Princess Rd
New Route 448 would replace routes 385 and 386 on Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Ave while Route 371 will continue to service residents on Treen St, Culloton Cr and Camberwell Rd
Would run additional trips on weekdays
Would run an improved 30 minute frequency on Saturdays
Routes 385 and 386 map.

Route 387 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would no longer operate short trips between Warwick Station and Northlands Plaza Shopping Centre on weekends due to low patronage
Minor time changes with some trips withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 388 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St reducing wait times in this section
A number of poor performing trips would be withdrawn
Would run on a reduced frequency on Saturdays from every 30 minutes to every 60 minutes. The withdrawn trips would be partially replaced by additional Route 386 trips.

Route 389 – Wanneroo to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St reducing wait times in this section.

Route 448 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Warwick Station
New Route
A new service would run between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Warwick Station via Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Ave partially replacing the routes 365, 385 and 386
Route 448 is proposed to operate on Monday to Friday as follows:
Every 20 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak.
Route 448 Map.

Route 449 – Malaga Industrial Area to Warwick Station
New Route
A new service would run between Malaga Industrial Area and Warwick Station via Beach Rd.
Route 449 is proposed to operate on Monday to Friday as follows:
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
Route 449 Map.

Route 450 – Landsdale to Warwick Station
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to run every 30 minutes on Saturdays.
However based on these propose there are some route that i would change a bit or increase frequency
- 449 (I think this route should extend to Bennett Springs) to make bennett springs/north beechbooro residence had connection service to Malaga/Ballajura
- 448 (I think this route should run weekend too) it is because in the weekend residence along old 386 route (Between Beach rd until Kingsway) especially around Giralt Rd) does not have weekend service along this route.

TBH i am bit dissapointed with the Proposed change i think they should keep 365 because now there is no Connection between Kingsway and Mirrabooka

and also i quite interesting who will operated this route. 376 is path route. But this route will extended to Whitfords, Will this route affected by Contract changes and move to SWan. and also 375 the route is run west of Mirrabooka Ave (Transdev Side/SWan Side after Jan) but terminated at Alexander Heights (Path Area)
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pasha241 wrote:Some proposed came out of nowhere. Must be something related with the reshuffle contract next january and i was shock to see the proposed change and some route they replace.
Transperth website wrote: Proposed changes to Wanneroo Rd and Mirrabooka area services

Mon 11 Mar - Fri 22 Mar

We are inviting the public to comment on proposed changes to routes 344, 355, 371, 376, 377, 378, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389 and 450, in addition to the introduction of routes 374, 375, 448, 449 and the withdrawal of routes 352, 365, 372 and 469.

These proposed changes would provide more direct services and improved access to the Joondalup Line, Perth CBD and activity centres, including Mirrabooka Shopping Centre.

They would also improve the coordination of bus services along Wanneroo Rd reducing wait times, while better matching service levels to demand.

We will be available to discuss the proposed service changes at:

Kingsway City Shopping Centre
Thursday 21 November - 2.00pm to 7.00pm
Saturday 23 November - 9.00am to 1.00pm

Mirrabooka Square Shopping Centre
Saturday 23 November - 9.00am to 5.00pm

Perth Busport
Monday 25 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Whitfords Station
Tuesday 26 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Warwick Station
Wednesday 27 November - 3.00pm to 5.30pm

Mirrabooka Bus Station
Thursday 28 November - 2.30pm to 5.30pm

Alexander Heights Shopping Centre
Thursday 5 December - 2.00pm to 7.00pm

If you are unable to attend the sessions but would like to provide feedback, you can e-mail communityconsultation@pta.wa.gov.au before 5.00pm on Friday 20 December 2019. Please note you will not receive a reply to your submission.

Services are proposed to undergo the following changes:

Route 344 – Warwick Station to Morley Bus Station
Would undergo minor time changes.

Route 355 – Ellenbrook Town Centre to Whitfords Station
Time Changes and Minor Route Change
Would no longer operate on Gnangara Rd between Wanneroo Rd and Mirrabooka Ave and be replaced by an extended Route 376 in this section
Would operate centrally through the Wangara Industrial Area on Distinction Rd and Prindiville Dr replacing the Route 469
Would undergo minor time changes
Route 355 Map.

Route 371 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Additional trips would run Monday to Friday
Frequency would be increased from every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes on Saturdays.

Route 374 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station
New Route
A new service would run between Whitfords Station and Mirrabooka Bus Station via Gnangara Rd, Russell Rd, Ashdale Bvd, Evandale Rd, Highclere Bvd, Girrawheen Av and Balga Av, partially replacing routes 352, 365 and 372
Route 374 is proposed to operate weekdays and weekends as follows:
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak and on weekends.
Route 374 Map.

Route 375 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station
New Route
A new service would run between Alexander Heights Shopping Centre and Mirrabooka Bus Station via Jefferson Dr, Hainsworth Av, Finchley Cr, Fernhurst Cr, Arkana Rd and Majella Rd, partially replacing routes 365, 372 and 377
Route 375 is proposed to operate weekdays and weekends as follows:
Every 10-20 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 60 minutes on weekends.
Route 375 Map.

Route 376 – Whitfords Station to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes and Major Route Change
Route 376 would operate the same route between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Landsdale with a proposed extension from Landsdale to Whitfords Station replacing Route 355 on Gnangara Rd through Landsdale and Wangara
Route 376 would also replace Route 352 in providing a link between Landsdale and Whitfords Station
Route 376 is proposed to operate on weekdays and weekends as follows:

Between Landsdale and Mirrabooka Bus Station
Every 10-15 minutes in peak periods
Every 30 minutes off peak
Every 30 minutes on Saturdays and every 60 minutes on Sundays.

Between Landsdale and Whitfords Station
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
No weekend service.
Route 376 Map.

Route 377 – Alexander Heights Shopping Centre to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes and Minor Route Change
The service would no longer serve Rawlinson Dr, Jefferson Dr and Marangaroo Dr (between Jefferson Dr and Mirrabooka Ave) and would be replaced by Route 375 in this area
Would undergo minor time changes
Route 377 Map.

Route 378 – Alexander Heights to Mirrabooka Bus Station
Time Changes
A small number of trips with low patronage would be withdrawn.

Route 384 – Mirrabooka Bus Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Additional trips would run on weekdays.

Routes 385 and 386 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Perth Busport
Time Changes and Major Route Change
Would travel a new route between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Princess Rd. These services would run via Hepburn Ave, Highclere Bvd, Girrawheen Ave and Princess Rd
New Route 448 would replace routes 385 and 386 on Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Ave while Route 371 will continue to service residents on Treen St, Culloton Cr and Camberwell Rd
Would run additional trips on weekdays
Would run an improved 30 minute frequency on Saturdays
Routes 385 and 386 map.

Route 387 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would no longer operate short trips between Warwick Station and Northlands Plaza Shopping Centre on weekends due to low patronage
Minor time changes with some trips withdrawn due to poor patronage.

Route 388 – Warwick Station to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St reducing wait times in this section
A number of poor performing trips would be withdrawn
Would run on a reduced frequency on Saturdays from every 30 minutes to every 60 minutes. The withdrawn trips would be partially replaced by additional Route 386 trips.

Route 389 – Wanneroo to Perth Busport
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to improve coordination with other Wanneroo Rd bus services, in particular between Beach Rd and Amelia St reducing wait times in this section.

Route 448 – Kingsway City Shopping Centre to Warwick Station
New Route
A new service would run between Kingsway City Shopping Centre and Warwick Station via Giralt Rd, Templeton Cr and Blackmore Ave partially replacing the routes 365, 385 and 386
Route 448 is proposed to operate on Monday to Friday as follows:
Every 20 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak.
Route 448 Map.

Route 449 – Malaga Industrial Area to Warwick Station
New Route
A new service would run between Malaga Industrial Area and Warwick Station via Beach Rd.
Route 449 is proposed to operate on Monday to Friday as follows:
Every 20-30 minutes in peak periods
Every 60 minutes off peak
Route 449 Map.

Route 450 – Landsdale to Warwick Station
Time Changes
Would undergo time changes to run every 30 minutes on Saturdays.
However based on these propose there are some route that i would change a bit or increase frequency
- 449 (I think this route should extend to Bennett Springs) to make bennett springs/north beechbooro residence had connection service to Malaga/Ballajura
- 448 (I think this route should run weekend too) it is because in the weekend residence along old 386 route (Between Beach rd until Kingsway) especially around Giralt Rd) does not have weekend service along this route.

TBH i am bit dissapointed with the Proposed change i think they should keep 365 because now there is no Connection between Kingsway and Mirrabooka

and also i quite interesting who will operated this route. 376 is path route. But this route will extended to Whitfords, Will this route affected by Contract changes and move to SWan. and also 375 the route is run west of Mirrabooka Ave (Transdev Side/SWan Side after Jan) but terminated at Alexander Heights (Path Area)
I am looking forward to seeing the 355 service getting a bit closer to where I live in Gnangara.
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pasha241 wrote:Some proposed came out of nowhere. Must be something related with the reshuffle contract next january and i was shock to see the proposed change and some route they replace.

However based on these propose there are some route that i would change a bit or increase frequency
- 449 (I think this route should extend to Bennett Springs) to make bennett springs/north beechbooro residence had connection service to Malaga/Ballajura
- 448 (I think this route should run weekend too) it is because in the weekend residence along old 386 route (Between Beach rd until Kingsway) especially around Giralt Rd) does not have weekend service along this route.

TBH i am bit dissapointed with the Proposed change i think they should keep 365 because now there is no Connection between Kingsway and Mirrabooka

and also i quite interesting who will operated this route. 376 is path route. But this route will extended to Whitfords, Will this route affected by Contract changes and move to SWan. and also 375 the route is run west of Mirrabooka Ave (Transdev Side/SWan Side after Jan) but terminated at Alexander Heights (Path Area)
Route 376 looks likely will still be operated by Path. Not all services will operating between Landsdale and Whitfords.

Route 375 looks likely will operated by Swan as majority runs the portion of the old 372 route.

Is anyone know where's the route 449 in Malaga ends? Looks likely the route will eventually terminates at Malaga (West Bennett Springs) Station once the Morley-Ellenbrook Line is being finished. Or consider to make that terminate at East Ballajura where the route 362 terminates at this stage. I reckon Path will operate with this route as it serves in Malaga area and runs along Beach Road as the corridor, also it reinstate the portion of old 379 between Mirrabooka Avenue and Alexander Drive.

Just remembered when the route 469 truncated only serving Wangara back to 2011, and replaced with the new portion of route 355 during this change.

The route withdrawal of the route number 352 will looks likely to reserving for the future bus route serving along Henley Brook Bus Station.

There's previous discussion which can be found in here.
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Based on a bit of discussion with a certain someone ;) I would say the new routes 374, 375 and 448 will be operated by Transdev (or Swan come January), but the 449 has me stumped. Probably Path seeing as it terminates near Malaga Depot?
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I spot re-used numbers; 374 was basically the 386 running down Walcott/Fitzgerald Sts rather than Charles St, 449 being Warwick Stn - Warwick Grove via Eglinton Cr (387 route to Erindale Rd).

The new 374 seems as if it would be run by Transdev (Swan Joondalup next year), 375 by Path, 448 by Transdev/Swan Joondalup & 449 by Path, as anything east of Wanneroo Rd seems to be a Path operation from Warwick.
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Bus Suggestions wrote:I spot re-used numbers; 374 was basically the 386 running down Walcott/Fitzgerald Sts rather than Charles St, 449 being Warwick Stn - Warwick Grove via Eglinton Cr (387 route to Erindale Rd).

The new 374 seems as if it would be run by Transdev (Swan Joondalup next year), 375 by Path, 448 by Transdev/Swan Joondalup & 449 by Path, as anything east of Wanneroo Rd seems to be a Path operation from Warwick.
The 375 was a re-used route number as well, running between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Cabrini Park, Marangaroo via Nollamara Avenue and Balga area.

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Squiddy wrote:Based on a bit of discussion with a certain someone ;) I would say the new routes 374, 375 and 448 will be operated by Transdev (or Swan come January), but the 449 has me stumped. Probably Path seeing as it terminates near Malaga Depot?

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They’ve upload the overview map of the proposed Mirrabooka and Wanneroo Road services recently, but still did now showing where the route 449 ends in Malaga.

Update: the following maps are included in more detail
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shinjiman wrote:They’ve upload the overview map of the proposed Mirrabooka and Wanneroo Road services recently, but still did now showing where the route 449 ends in Malaga.

In the short term it’ll probably terminate somewhere along Beach road/Marshall road my guess is just before the Guadelupe drive roundabout then when the Ellenbrook spur line opens it’ll be extended to the new train station on Beechboro road North


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Asked reps at Warwick Station today before heading off, the 449 is confirmed to terminate at Guadalupe Dr. Whether it gets extended to Malaga station when the Ellenbrook Line opens remains to be seen.
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Bus Suggestions wrote:Asked reps at Warwick Station today before heading off, the 449 is confirmed to terminate at Guadalupe Dr. Whether it gets extended to Malaga station when the Ellenbrook Line opens remains to be seen.
Would make sense to extend it to Malaga station when it eventually does open I mean it is the logical conclusion for the new 449 the Guadalupe drive terminus would be short term I doubt PTA will want to keep turning buses around at a roundabout when they can provide better service levels on Beechboro road North or part thereof at least


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Just in time for the festive season, there's changes to bus services to/from Cannington Station following the completion of redevelopment works on Cecil Avenue,Cannington which will take effect from 8th December. Marks the end of the temporary deviation through Wharf Street after 7 months as they will begin to serve Cecil Av again.
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TP1462 wrote:
Bus Suggestions wrote:Asked reps at Warwick Station today before heading off, the 449 is confirmed to terminate at Guadalupe Dr. Whether it gets extended to Malaga station when the Ellenbrook Line opens remains to be seen.
Would make sense to extend it to Malaga station when it eventually does open I mean it is the logical conclusion for the new 449 the Guadalupe drive terminus would be short term I doubt PTA will want to keep turning buses around at a roundabout when they can provide better service levels on Beechboro road North or part thereof at least

Due to nowhere to terminate and effectively turn around on Marshall rd , the 362 Gaudaloupe terminus will be used to terminate the 449 . With it eventually extending to the proposed Malaga train station when built.
This gives 362 Guadalupe residents a more direct link to malaga and Warwick other than the 344 .
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TP1462 wrote:
Bus Suggestions wrote:Asked reps at Warwick Station today before heading off, the 449 is confirmed to terminate at Guadalupe Dr. Whether it gets extended to Malaga station when the Ellenbrook Line opens remains to be seen.
Would make sense to extend it to Malaga station when it eventually does open I mean it is the logical conclusion for the new 449 the Guadalupe drive terminus would be short term I doubt PTA will want to keep turning buses around at a roundabout when they can provide better service levels on Beechboro road North or part thereof at least

Due to nowhere to terminate and effectively turn around on Marshall rd , the 362 Gaudaloupe terminus will be used to terminate the 449 . With it eventually extending to the proposed Malaga train station when built.
This gives 362 Guadalupe residents a more direct link to malaga and Warwick other than the 344 .
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PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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High Floor Bus wrote: Would make sense to extend it to Malaga station when it eventually does open I mean it is the logical conclusion for the new 449 the Guadalupe drive terminus would be short term I doubt PTA will want to keep turning buses around at a roundabout when they can provide better service levels on Beechboro road North or part thereof at least

Due to nowhere to terminate and effectively turn around on Marshall rd , the 362 Gaudaloupe terminus will be used to terminate the 449 . With it eventually extending to the proposed Malaga train station when built.
This gives 362 Guadalupe residents a more direct link to malaga and Warwick other than the 344 .
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Donno if there’s some special early trips to East Ballajura by 362 would be considerable, where departing Dianella Plaza or ECU Mount Lawley if possible..

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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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Mr OC Benz wrote: As part of conditional development approval, the shopping centre is required to pay Transperth to operate additional services during opening hours throughout the week, on route 423 or 425 - can't remember which one, but intended to bring the daytime frequency to every 15 minutes on one of those routes. They are also constructing bus priority lanes along Karrinyup Rd ready in time for the shopping centre expansion to open. A similar condition is in place at Westfield Innaloo for them to fund bus route enhancements in the area.
It appears as though the funding arrangement has been altered:
Stirling Times Article wrote: Perth shopping centre halves transport funding commitment
THE company behind the $800 million Karrinyup Shopping Centre redevelopment has the green light for changes that see its public transport funding commitments halved, despite opposition from a portfolio comprising the City of Stirling, Department of Transport, Main Roads and Public Transport Authority (PTA).

A previous Metro North-West Development Assessment Panel decision required AMP Capital to fund costs for an additional 105,500km of bus services and $120,000 per year for two extra buses for at least five years from the opening of the revamped centre.

But in October, the panel approved an amended transport plan to fund 32,000 to 38,000km and one extra bus per year.

The new plan includes extended footpath construction, street tree planting contribution, reducing the proposed bus lane on Karrinyup Road east of Huntriss Road by 460m and funding for increased bus service frequencies for seven years instead of five years.

However, the Department of Transport does not support the seven-year funding contribution saying that despite the two-year increase, it represented less than half of the cost of the planned services, and the PTA was “not resourced to increase bus services to Karrinyup from its own budget”.

A spokeswoman for AMP Capital said the approved plan would fund additional bus services that would “more than adequately” cater to increased demand for public transport created by the development.

“AMP Capital will contribute over $15 million as part of the Karrinyup Shopping Centre development to improve transport links into and around the centre,” she said.

“We believe this is a positive outcome for both the centre and our wider community.”

AMP Capital wants a combination of the 423 and 425 routes running ever 10 minutes during weekday AM and PM peak times and the 425 to run every 15 minutes on weekends from 10am to 6pm.

But the Department of Transport prefers increases to route 425 only to provide “a single, legible, high frequency and direct alignment” that would include 15-minute frequencies on weekday off-peak times, and said the current arrangement would not increase public transport usage.

The department took issue with the applicant including the costs of transporting construction workers to the site during the redevelopment within its overall contribution because it said this was the contractor’s responsibility and decision, and was of “negligible benefit” to the wider community.

The applicant believed extending the bus lane was not the worth the cost to improve eight bus journeys on a Saturday and acknowledged it would result in longer trip times on Saturday midday peak times but would benefit weekday PM peak services.

It asserted the previously approved bus services were “very expensive” and not sustainable for the landowner or authority after the five-year funding period ended, and the amended plan would prioritise pedestrian access and staff movements, resulting in reduced peak hour traffic.

In a report presented to the panel, the City said the transport plan changes were inconsistent with the original development approval, which would have seen the centre contribute to transport funding infinitely and aimed to increase public transport usage “to justify the expansion of the centre”.

“Suitable justification has not been provided by the applicant to substantiate the modifications will not adversely impact the functionality of the centre from a transport perspective,” it said.

But the panel believed the updated plan would “facilitate improved public transport and pedestrian amenity and walkability”.

The first stage of the centre redevelopment opened on November 21, including major stores H&M and Mecca, and a 700-bay carpark, with overall completion expected in late 2021.

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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2019

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These aren't service changes - but for those who are interested, here are the additional bus services operating on New Years Eve:

NYE 2019-2020 Bus Services

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