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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:06 pm

From this:
Thomas Pacy and Rafal Gorecki wrote:A more thorough and holistic attempt to replicate the success of the Route 950 is the plan to implement the new Route 960 bus service which would operate from Mirrabooka Town Centre, via Edith Cowan University, North Perth town centre on Fitzgerald Street, through central Perth, south east along the Albany Highway activity corridor and through to Curtin University. This service is planned to be implemented with a similar amount of bus priority and marketing to Route 950, along with a much more extensive timetable than the Route 990 bus service.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby theenglishguy » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:02 pm

Looks like this is going ahead:

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/P ... -time.aspx

Fitzgerald Street bus priority lane to save time

  • $1.4 million investment in smart transport initiative on Fitzgerald Street
  • Peak period bus lanes expected to save up to six minutes on journey times for bus passengers
The State Government will invest $1.4 million in peak-period bus lanes along a busy section of Fitzgerald Street in North Perth, saving valuable time for Transperth passengers.

Transport Minister Dean Nalder said the project was expected to cut up to six minutes off peak period journeys.

"The project is another example of how this Government is investing in smart transport solutions to keep our city moving," Mr Nalder said.

The project will see the left-hand lane both ways on Fitzgerald Street - between John and Walcott streets - resurfaced with a distinctive dark red asphalt, which is used on other bus lanes around the city.

The bus lanes will apply during peak hours only, from 6.30am to 9am toward the city, and from 4pm to 6.30pm away from the city. Motorists will still be able to park on the street outside of these times.

"We've already delivered bus priority lanes along Beaufort Street, which has contributed to the 950 'Superbus' becoming the most patronised service on the Transperth network," the Minister said.

The Fitzgerald Street project was recently given the green light by the City of Vincent, with final approvals from Main Roads WA and the City of Perth expected to be granted within weeks.

The project is expected to be completed mid-year

Fact File:

  • About 8,500 passengers travel on buses along Fitzgerald Street each work day
  • Passengers on routes 19, 885, 886, 887, 888 and 889 can expect to save up to five to six minutes on journeys in and out of the city during peak times
  • About 2,000 residents and businesses will receive information this week to make them aware of the project
  • For more information, visit http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/projects/bus-p ... zgerald-st
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby theenglishguy » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:05 pm

Also looks like the 960 will be introduced once these works are complete:

The Public Transport Authority (PTA) is creating kerbside Peak Period Bus Priority lanes in the Clearway zones along Fitzgerald Street, between Walcott Street and John Street, to improve public transport in the area and allow a new high-frequency bus service to begin.


Looking forward to this - should only take a few months to complete too :D
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Mon May 02, 2016 8:39 pm

Transperth website wrote:
Proposed changes to routes 28, 885, 886, 887, 888 and 889 and the introduction of new route 960
19 May 2016

Changes are proposed for routes 28, 885, 886, 887, 888 and 889 which would result in the creation of the new high frequency Route 960.

Route 960 would run a high frequency all stops service between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Curtin University Bus Station via Alexander Dr, the new Perth Busport (due to open mid-year) and Victoria Park Transfer Station.

The service is proposed to operate approximately:
Route 960 would be operated exclusively with accessible low floor vehicles.


Between Mirrabooka Bus Station and ECU Mt Lawley | Between ECU Mt Lawley and Curtin University

Monday to Friday Peak 10 Minutes | 5 Minutes
Monday to Friday during the day 20 minutes | 10 minutes
Monday to Friday evening 30 minutes | 15 minutes
Saturday during the day 30 minutes | 15 minutes
Sunday during the day 30 minutes | 15 minutes
Saturday and Sunday evening 30 minutes | 30 minutes


Routes 885 and 888 are proposed to be withdrawn completely and replaced by Route 960.

Routes 886, 887 and 889 are proposed to undergo a change of stopping pattern and undergo a route number change. No changes would occur to the actual route taken.

Route 886 would become Route 360
Route 887 would become Route 361
Route 889 would become Route 362.
All three routes would remain limited stops, although we are proposing to remove two sets of stops south of Dianella Plaza in order to speed up the journey for passengers north of Dianella Plaza.

The following stops would no longer be served by routes 360, 361 and 362 but would be served by Route 960:

Stop 12831 Alexander Dr after Central Av, Menora
Stop 12806 Alexander Dr before Central Av, Menora
Stop 12801 Alexander Dr before Woodrow Av, Dianella
Stop 12836 Alexander Dr after Woodrow Av, Dianella
All other stops which are currently served by routes 886,887 and 889 would continue to be served by routes 360, 361 and 362.

Route 28
is proposed to undergo a route change. Route 28 would begin and end its journey at the Perth Busport (due to open mid-year) and Claremont Station.

Passengers along Wellington St east of the new Perth Busport would be served by the Yellow CAT as well as Route 960 which would operate at a higher frequency. There are no plans to change the number of trips operating as a part of this review.

Find a map of the proposed changes here.

Representatives from Transperth will be available to discuss the proposed service changes as follows:



Dianella Plaza Shopping Centre
Edith Cowan University Mt Lawley Curtin University Student Guild Bentley The Park Centre Victoria Park Roe Street Bus Station InfoCentre
Thursday 19 May Tuesday 24 May Monday 23 May Thursday 26 May Friday 20 May
2pm to 7pm 10am to 2pm 10am to 2pm 2pm to 7pm 2pm to 5.30pm
And And And And
Saturday 21 May Friday 27 May Wednesday 25 May Saturday 28 May
9am to 1pm 10am to 2pm 10am to 2pm 9am to 1pm


If you are unable to attend the information sessions but would like to provide feedback, you can email transperthplanning@pta.wa.gov.au before 5.00pm on Friday 10 June 2016. Please note you will not receive a reply to your submission.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby theenglishguy » Tue May 03, 2016 11:19 pm

Interesting routing/frequencies - overall a little disappointing though.

My thoughts:

  • Running down Wellington Street is excellent. It's great that there will finally be a high frequency route connecting Wellington Street, the new underground bus station and Victoria Park.
  • Poor frequencies between ECU Mount Lawley and Mirrabooka. Rather than making it a proper high frequency route like the 950/990, only every second bus will travel the whole length. It really devalues the 960 as a "brand" when there isn't turn up and go frequency throughout.
  • No changes to buses to Curtin - the 960 will use a completely new alignment down Kent St. It's nice that it will use the proposed MAX alignment, but disappointing that the 70/72/75 haven't been modified. Lots of overlap between them and routes really need to be modified to recify this.
Overall, it's good to see this happen, but it has a few problems. A far better option would be to use the current 72/75 alignment to Curtin and use the service hours saved to improve the frequency between ECU and Mirrabooka
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue May 03, 2016 11:48 pm

theenglishguy wrote:Interesting routing/frequencies - overall a little disappointing though.

My thoughts:

  • Running down Wellington Street is excellent. It's great that there will finally be a high frequency route connecting Wellington Street, the new underground bus station and Victoria Park.
  • Poor frequencies between ECU Mount Lawley and Mirrabooka. Rather than making it a proper high frequency route like the 950/990, only every second bus will travel the whole length. It really devalues the 960 as a "brand" when there isn't turn up and go frequency throughout.
  • No changes to buses to Curtin - the 960 will use a completely new alignment down Kent St. It's nice that it will use the proposed MAX alignment, but disappointing that the 70/72/75 haven't been modified. Lots of overlap between them and routes really need to be modified to recify this.
Overall, it's good to see this happen, but it has a few problems. A far better option would be to use the current 72/75 alignment to Curtin and use the service hours saved to improve the frequency between ECU and Mirrabooka

I think it is fair and sensible for what it is. We need to be realistic here. The section between ECU Mt Lawley and Mirrabooka is poorly patronised as it is and even with patronage increases as a result of the 960, it is still unlikely to justify anything anymore frequent for now. Every second bus travelling the entire length for now is quite appropriate, especially given there are other buses operating between ECU Mt Lawley and Dianella Plaza (20, 360-362). No doubt in the near future, the frequency will be improved as demand warrants it though.

Yes, no changes to the Curtin buses yet, but perhaps it is something that will be looked at once the 960 has been introduced, to understand the impacts that the new route is having on surrounding services. Would be good to see 72/75 extended further along Berwick St to avoid duplication with the 960 and allow for routes 170-179 to extend further along Albany Hwy (serving East Victoria Park) before moving across to Berwick St. Certainly would provide a better distribution of bus services in the area and ensure that all of the routes in the area remain viable.

Certainly good to see a high frequency route along Wellington St, providing night time transport for the first time to East Perth residents as well as complementing the existing Yellow CAT service. However given that the Yellow CAT doesn't carry significant loadings on this section of Wellington St, depending on the impact that the 960 introduction has, perhaps some changes will need to be made in the near future. It would be good to see surplus CAT resources from the East Perth segment moved to the West Perth segment to support the very high demand often generated at this end. Maybe perhaps instead of the existing weekday 7 minute frequency, this could become a 10 min frequency on the East Perth segment and a 5 min frequency on the West Perth segment to better match the actual demand generated and reflect the possible impact that the 960 will have on existing patronage along the East Perth segment
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby PaxInfo » Wed May 04, 2016 6:22 am

It's a tricky one.

Yes, it's desirable that the entire route be a turn up & go service level at all times but I also agree that doing so would be overservicing. Particularly in light of the 360/361/362 limited stop services. Assuming these each run hourly and are coscheduled that's a 20 min service offpeak weekdays and a 30 min service weekends overlapping 960 from the city. Also, although their catchments don't overlap Mirrabooka shopping centre will also have the 970 providing a frequent service.

The other major decision they appear to have made (assuming that times are similar to the 880-series routes they replace), and this is on the side of legibility rather than economy. That is to have 360/361/362 run full-time rather than daytime or even weekday only. Running them as short services connecting with the 960 (or even 970 if routed via Mirrabooka) would have saved bucketloads of money but reduced patronage, particularly for people travelling outbound from the city due to a transfer penalty at certain times. A bit like what happened to the 210-series a while back?

Agreed the Vic Park area needs tidying up but the street layout hampers things. Not sure about the future of 284. Curtin is the area's biggest trip generator but Curtin has heaps of routes, including the Circle Route to the Belmont area and others to the South Perth area. I like the concept of an east-west route linking South Perth and East Vic Park and maybe this could be the role of 284? Possible start points could include either near Canning Bridge Station or near Mends St. it could go into the Belmont area (definitely via Belmont Forum), possibly terminating at a station on the proposed airport line. But I still don't see huge patronage - it's more the nature of a shopper type route. But not running via Curtin should give some better directness and service to destinations less well served.

Like the concept of 170s staying on Albany Hwy and 72 etc via more of Berwick St. But that leaves the question of how to serve Etwell St which still needs a service (being a fair hike to Berwick St or Curtin). A problem with route straightening is it might lessen access to the shops at Vic Park or East Vic Park from surrounding areas. 72 is a bit hit and miss currently though the 170s do it well currently. Maybe this could be a problem that a revised 284 could address?

Although it would partly overlaps 910, I wonder if there could be some benefit in straightening 70 to run via Canning Hwy and Douglas Av and provide these areas with a direct bus to Curtin. The local streets in between would still have the 33.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Shoudy Chen » Wed May 04, 2016 6:50 pm

My Opinions of 960:
- Adjoins the Albany Hwy which serves the low frequency 220 bus route during weekends
- This will cut time when people want to travel from Mirrabooka to CUBS. (People have to get off @ Roe St and having to walk a long way to St Georges Tce to catch 70/72/75.)
- Bus services to be utilised by Path Morley and Welshpool contracts.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Leyland B21 » Wed May 04, 2016 7:44 pm

Also take into account that Dianeĺla Drive will now be service by 2 routes now 67 / 960 with minimal catchment. Dianella Plaza if it's still called that still gets serviced heavily by multiple routes. Even though I live on the east coast now, I'm certain the Alexander Drive catchment between ECU and Mirrabooka would not have changed much in 14 years.

As far as contracts go with Curtin falling in the Canning contract area, I would suspect it's possible to be a joint Swan / Path route like route 950.


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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Wed May 04, 2016 9:46 pm

The route is split between the Morley and Kalamunda contract areas.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Leyland B21 » Wed May 04, 2016 10:04 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:The route is split between the Morley and Welshpool contract areas.

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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Frederick » Thu May 05, 2016 12:29 am

All of the recent 900-series routes (hence, excluding the 920 and 940) have 15 minute service 7 days per week along their whole length, so it feels inconsistent for the 960 north of Mt Lawley to only run at high frequency during peak hour. A 15 minute frequency along the whole length of the route would make more sense (or would it be less enticing to Curtin students?). It does seem odd to run 20/30 minute service on an already existing corridor but 10/20 minute service on an unproven corridor.

As for the other services, I would suggest creating a bus-only entrance to Baron-Hay Ct from Kent St (analogous to the Adie Ct bus-only section), and running the 72/75 through Baron-Hay Ct and onto the 33/70 alignment, in conjunction with the 17x series taking over the rest of Berwick St. Since the amended 72/75 would serve Curtin, the 70 could be eliminated, and perhaps even the 33, since the rest of its route through residential areas runs along or close to the 34. The back streets of Kensington would get a 15-minute service (in addition to the 910 on Canning Hwy). The resources saved from eliminating the 33 and 70 could go to funding extra weekend services, such as the aforementioned ones on the 960, or the 72/75. Even if that elimination is too radical, there would be more frequent service than there is now for the same operating funds.
(I have further plans to rationalise the 72/75 as there are already 2 quicker frequent services from Curtin to Cannington, but that would be OT)
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby PaxInfo » Thu May 05, 2016 6:03 am

Frederick wrote:All of the recent 900-series routes (hence, excluding the 920 and 940) have 15 minute service 7 days per week along their whole length, so it feels inconsistent for the 960 north of Mt Lawley to only run at high frequency during peak hour. A 15 minute frequency along the whole length of the route would make more sense (or would it be less enticing to Curtin students?). It does seem odd to run 20/30 minute service on an already existing corridor but 10/20 minute service on an unproven corridor.


While the 960 would almost certainly be the fastest way from Curtin to Mt Lawley, I'm not sure if this all stops service would be the fastest way to areas further north. Especially those served by the limited stop 360-series area services.

A 2:30pm journey plan from Curtin to 'Mirrabooka Station' shows that it's faster to catch the 100 to Canning Bridge then a train, then an 888. Under the new network passengers will have the option of an 960 or 970 to Mirrabooka which together offer a frequent service. Staying on the train for longer and getting route 415 also offers a fairly fast option.

As for other areas north and east of Mirrabooka up Alexander Dr the fastest option will likely be going the fastest possible way to Wellington St and changing to the limited stop services.

Like the long Circle route and shorter but higher frequency routes, I suspect that the majority of trips on the 960 will be fairly short. Other options exist for people north of where 960's frequency diminishes.
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby shinjiman » Thu May 05, 2016 11:22 am

Just thought the portion between Victoria Park Transfer Station and Kent Street was run by the former route 73. :o
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby tbc1983 » Thu May 05, 2016 12:54 pm

The 960 is obviously designed to be coordinated/integrated as per the current service levels provided by the 88x series along Alexander/Fitzgerald.
Anyhow, it's very simple. Every second bus travels through to Mirrabooka as per current (and improved) 888 service levels, with however, the busier section of the route maintaining the same if not better frequency when combined/coordinated with the 360-1-2.

As for ...."Wellington St, providing night time transport for the first time to East Perth".
Seriously? I'm fairly certain the 80-90s services(Trolleys and diesels) traversed this route for the best part of the 20th century, not to mention the 8 to 13 routes thereafter.

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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Thu May 05, 2016 5:35 pm

First time in recent years...
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby Merc1107 » Thu May 05, 2016 7:42 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:First time in recent years...


This has been noted by those who happen to be involved with the home-appliances scene, particularly washers and dishwashers, plus the detergent product one uses in conjunction.*

The saying "what's old is new again" fits rather well; with manufacturers reintroducing features that were revolutionary for their time, and still are these days. I cannot cite specific examples, although I'm sure some keen Googlers could pull an example from the AutomaticWasher forums.

But I digress... Back to the regularly-scheduled programming, folks! :shock:

*Well, one would hope people are using detergent in conjunction with the laundry or washing up.
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Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby TP1462 » Fri May 06, 2016 1:09 pm

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/news-and-media ... ecu-curtin

New high-frequency Route 960 to ECU, Curtin

  • New bus route between Mirrabooka and Curtin University via new Perth Busport
  • Five-minute frequency between Curtin and ECU Mount Lawley at peak times
  • $7m investment adds 20 new buses, one million bus service kilometres

The State Government will invest $7 million in a new high-frequency bus route to start later this year.

Route 960 will operate between Mirrabooka Bus Station and Curtin University via Edith Cowan University's Mount Lawley campus and the new Perth Busport.

Transport Minister Dean Nalder said the new service would build on the success of Transperth's busiest bus route.

"When Route 950 was introduced in January 2014, it took less than a month for it to become Transperth's most successful bus route ever - it currently averages about 18,000 boardings a day," Mr Nalder said.
"By consolidating existing bus routes into one high-frequency service, we're able to provide even better, more efficient services to Transperth passengers."

The 960 will replace Routes 885 and 888 and will operate an all-stop service between Mirrabooka and Curtin via Alexander Drive, the new Perth Busport (due to open mid-year) and Victoria Park Transfer Station.
At peak times, the service will run every five minutes between Curtin and ECU, Mount Lawley.

"Route 960 will run along the $1.4 million Fitzgerald Street peak-period bus lane, which is due for completion in mid-2016," the Minister said.

"It's yet another integrated transport solution which will make public transport even more efficient for students, commuters and families in Western Australia."

All of the 20 new buses will be fully accessible, and have Euro 6 environmental certification - the next step up from the current Australian standard of Euro 5.

Fact File
  • Route 960 will travel more than 1,350,000 kilometres a year
  • Once established, the route is expected to attract about 10,000 boardings a day
  • Community consultation on the new service will take place during May
  • For more information, visit http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au


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And a related article on Perth now


Route 960 is scheduled to enter service in October

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/ ... urtin-uni/
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Re: Route 960 and Fitzgerald St Peak Period Bus Lanes

Postby tbc1983 » Fri May 06, 2016 2:02 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:First time in recent years...


Can't you be humble about anything?....you never seem to be
wrong! :( :( :(

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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby Mr OC Benz » Fri May 06, 2016 7:14 pm

Well... I admit I could've clarified the point I was trying to make! You get the idea anyway! :lol:
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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby tbc1983 » Sat May 07, 2016 1:31 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:Well... I admit I could've clarified the point I was trying to make! You get the idea anyway! :lol:


yeah, more lack of humility....... :roll:


LOL.


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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby largebus » Thu May 12, 2016 12:47 am

Looking forward to the new service!
In the meantime, they can axe 70. There's never more than 2 people on it, its basically route 33/72/75 going from perth and going to perth they all get off at Vic Park Bus Stn/Perth anyway--all served by this new route/72/75.
At the very least reduce it to morning/evening only--when they get about 10 passengers
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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby Bus Suggestions » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:16 pm

Fitzgerald St bus lanes are completed. Should be a few MONTHS before the changes take place.
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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby TP1462 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:58 am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/ ... e-minutes/

The route has been finalised and will begin running on October 9th


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Re: Route 960: Mirrabooka - ECU Mt Lawley - Perth - Curtin U

Postby Mr OC Benz » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:52 pm

The timetable for this route has now been uploaded. Pretty impressive operating hours for what is pretty much a brand new route (plus replacement of 888 which currently only runs during the day anyway). Will be interesting to see what patronage is like over the coming 12 months.

New Route 960 operating hours:
Monday to Saturday: 5:30am to 1am
Sundays and Public Holidays: 7am to 12:30am

Bus Timetable 210

Outbound night services are coordinated with Routes 361-362 which means a bus along Fitzgerald St/Alexander Dr as far as Dianella Plaza at least every 15 mins all day everyday until midnight (9:15pm Sundays, then just the 960 half hourly until 12:15am).
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