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1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:40 am

Hi all out there,
I'm totally new on here and almost to big buses in general besides owning a 52 AEC Leyland in NZ for a couple years but never actually went anywhere in it. hahaaaa
I am about to buy a 69 Leyland double decker , ex party bus. I have yet to dig into its history which is so exciting in its own right. Im in Perth but im guessing it might be an ex Sydney one. so far its been hard to match any pictures on the model. I will have all the numbers etc and any history this weekend, its been very much a jump on the house bus dream before it slips into another party bus stint in some one elses hands. it hasnt been started in 12 mths but was run weekly before that. anyway lets see a couple quick pics and prod for opinions ..... first question is are there and where can i find workshop manuals on these ?
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby Bedford-29 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:43 am

Mate this DD is ex Plymouth bus Plymouth UK.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby Guy_Arab » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:09 am

coastlaw wrote:Hi all out there,
I'm totally new on here and almost to big buses in general besides owning a 52 AEC Leyland in NZ for a couple years but never actually went anywhere in it. hahaaaa
I am about to buy a 69 Leyland double decker , ex party bus. I have yet to dig into its history which is so exciting in its own right. Im in Perth but im guessing it might be an ex Sydney one. so far its been hard to match any pictures on the model. I will have all the numbers etc and any history this weekend, its been very much a jump on the house bus dream before it slips into another party bus stint in some one elses hands. it hasnt been started in 12 mths but was run weekly before that. anyway lets see a couple quick pics and prod for opinions ..... first question is are there and where can i find workshop manuals on these ?
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I have a english manual for your bus
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:40 pm

thats a fantastic start , thankyou. I have emailed you Ric. awsum .
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Postby coastlaw » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:50 pm

also where would i find the numbers to identify this particular bus, the id plate on the engine will take a bit of careful reading as its bit old , LOL. though im putting depost on tomorrow and will see what paperwork is actually there. no unfortunately the beautiful 4 footed bath does not come with it, dam.
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Postby Bedford-29 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:19 pm

Mate have you got another picture of the rear end so we can see if its old UK rego plate is still in place as this will tell you its old Plymouth fleet number.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:43 am

Its up in Perth at moment and I live in Dunsborough about 2half 3 hour drive. It's parked on a hill property, and I kinda broke my own leg with an axe so i havent been able to walk up there. lol. im there on wed so i will get some pics of rear and any numbers anywhere.the only ones with that headlight setup ive seen is a sydney bus , pic was on here. it still has the phone number on side so i might just give it a call... i put deposit on yesterday. cant wait to sort out some bits and pices,
ie: 2 tires flat, new batteries, and the mission to get it through the trees next door and down one of the steepest hills in Perth, Kalamunda rd...
anyone in Perth or WA area that would like to get in contact and shoot the breeze laced with some brain picking and a kinda crazy kiwi hippy dude, look me up..
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Postby coastlaw » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:51 am

I almost forgot to ask if anyone knows where to find the W.A inspection regulations online as I cant seem to even find a heading for buses and coaches ?
It has been of the road for 4-5 years , but i dont know if its had a frame inspection or when it would need one ? its pretty painful to try and get someone on the phone , like most transport places..
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby berrybusman » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:43 pm

Hi Mate,

Congratulations on your purchase.

This bus is EX Plymouth UK
Imported into Australia (WA) 1984 alongside two others (which I possess)

It is ex fleet no 228 ex UK rego JJY628G.

It is a Leyland Atlantean PDR2/1 chassis no 804018

Roof was lowered by authorities for rego purposes in WA. Thats why you cant stand upright upstairs (unless you are small)!

I may have its sister buses for sale if interested.

You would have the only set of running chassis no. Leyland Atlantean PDRs in the world!

I have 229 and 230.

Rare as rocking horse poop!

Hope this helps.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby Herbert » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:06 am

I have its chassis no listed as 803918.

http://perthbus.info/report.php?vid=JJY628G

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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:06 am

Hi Berrybusman, Thats absolutely mind blowing, seriously you owe me a new top skull with that .. I just got back from Perth to show my lady her future home, and forgot camera , as the bus is up a steep property and my legs broken, any way i wrote the only number on the back painted in a small rectangle window half way up the rear.....
JJY628G ... spot on , thats our bus, upstairs roof exactly rubs the top of my dreds, hahaaaa, but my lady is 5"2 perfect. wow you have so totally blown me away with that..
where abouts are you ?
Dam I'm so stoked with that info..... :D :D
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:11 am

vin is 03918PDR21
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:25 am

The biggest question is at the moment is , will the EO680S engine and Wilson gearbox be ok for long distance travelling or are we going to have to look at putting it in storage and re-powering the ol gal at least to travel in ?
The plan is to try and fit it out in a way as to be able to return it to original with out to much trouble if it was to be restored one day.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby csrbd » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:26 am

Hi berryman. I might be interested in one of your PDR's. PM me if your likely to sell.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby Bedford-29 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:32 pm

You always see how much stuffing around there is and stick a GM or Detroit engine in the Atlantean and convert it from semi automatic to full automatic just a suggestion.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby berrybusman » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:36 pm

OOPS
Your right chassis no. 803918.

Built 5/69 Leyland UK.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby berrybusman » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:53 pm

Hi Coastlaw,

No worries glad I could help with some info.

I did make mistake with chassis no. It is 803918.

Should be on a plate above drivers seat R/H side upper.

Will say body built by Park Royal (London) 5/69.

I am in NSW Sth Coast.

Good luck with it mate.

If it had of been closer to home I would have made an effort to purchase her for parts (not at the price though)



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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby berrybusman » Fri May 01, 2015 10:36 pm

Thanks CSRBD,

Not sure if I want to part with them as yet.

I would prefer to sell both (if I was to get a good offer) as they are possibly the only matching (running chassis number) privately owned PDR's of this type in the world Im sure?

If anybody knows different please let me know?

At this stage Im thinking I may still want to restore one and keep the other for spares.

I will let you know if I should change my mind.

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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby csrbd » Sat May 02, 2015 9:55 am

No worries. Have you posted any pics of you're collection, would be very interested to see them. Cheers
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:16 am

been a lil while since i joined, found main treadle valve had been ripped off chassis after previous owner reversed over a large Jarrah root.
It was suggested to upgrade to an E-6 dual valve that mounts on floor with complete pedal assembly ?? was wondering if the E-10 would be a better option , not as harsh.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby atlantean 9 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:28 am

Hi, just signed up as a member.
Hadn't checked on Australian Plymouth PDR2s for awhile, and another turns up!!!
I'm Ed Heseltine from Plymouth city transport preservation group (www.plymouthcitytransport.co.uk) and I own with my brother Philip and friend Dave Jenkins the only surviving Park Royal PDR2 left in U.K NDR 509J. We are into our 3rd year of restoration of number9,it having been last used 7-8 years ago as a mobile church youth club in the Welsh valleys. The interior completely ripped out but mechanically sound. The Park Royal website www.prv.org.uk has original park royal publicity shots for all 3 batch versions of our PDR2s. Our vehicle has a dedicated page to our restoration. We have original Milehouse Plymouth bus depot Leyland workshop manuals if you ever need any info. I guess you would have seen Dee Decker tours has 234 and the interior is immaculate as they were in Plymouth working days for your restoration guide.
I see you actually still have the body of the upper deck passenger counter on the stairs. these were used only for a short while as an experiment when they were first delivered for one man operation. 234 has a perfect 1.I asked Dee Decker to send a photo but had no reply. None of these units exist in U.K anymore so you might have 1 of only 2 left. We are going for original as delivered state, would it be possible to send any photos of your unit to us so we can try to replicate one for ourselves. Also just had text from our media liason guy Jason Beverley on plymouthcitytransport site if we can get a contact together so we can follow your progress
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby coastlaw » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:14 pm

Hi Ed due to moving house twice and health problem i haven't been on here at all. Yes the passenger counter is complete with red perspex for front and the counter under the stairs though the red perspex is cracked in half. We brought it to live in but trying not to alter anything in a way that cant be restored if need be . It had no seats and was used by Purple Busses as a party bus then sold to an old guy who passed away never relising the dream to live in it . It sat for about 4-5 years and i brought it off the daughter about 18mths or so ago . Its The Super Purple Party Bus. one is in Queensland also being converted to live in, as you know , one is being restored in NSW . Sounds like our 1969 PDR2's are a bit of a rare beast.
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Re: 1969 leyland double decker

Postby Illustrator Paul » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:41 pm

I live in Australia now but well know these buses as I was raised for my first 18 years in Plymouth UK. I have lasting memories of standing on Royal Parade looking to catch the 20 to Woodford...I still have a ticket some where from those days...in the 70s Mum asked for a 20 and a 10, that was how much it cost to go from the city centre to Plymbridge Road...I remember the Titans slowly being fazed out and that a conductor issued you with a ticket...with the Atlanteans you paid the driver...for a while they had a ticket machine on the wall by the stairs but they didnt last too long. Memories of diesel fumes, how hot it was downstairs on the backseat (which everyone wanted in the winter) and the smell of cigarette smoke coming from the top deck...happy days
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