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[July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:24 pm
by The Phonj
Half of the year has gone past; and the new financial year is upon us... July is here! Don't forget to do your tax return; hope you get a nice refund!

A quick reminder that Metrocard and Metroticket fares increase as of Sunday 7 July. Two section tickets will no longer be available from this date. For details visit the Adelaide Metro website.

Tonsley trains now are terminating at Clovelly Park until further notice to allow for construction works on the Flinders extension.

Tram services from Glenelg will terminate at South Tce with substitute buses running the City and Hindmarsh sections as from 11:30 pm on Saturday 6 July until 23 July.

With just over a year until the last CNG SL202 reaches retirement age, marking the end of high floor metro buses, the time is nigh to get your last photos and rides before it becomes too late.

Please post your South Australian transport observations that wouldn't seem to warrant their own thread here.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:50 pm
by jibb
Another new Scania Bustech in service this afternoon--1033.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:51 pm
by jibb
jibb wrote:Another new Scania Bustech in service this afternoon--1033.
1034 Scania Bustech entered service this morning,and 1035 this afternoon.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:42 am
by Crispy!
jibb wrote:
jibb wrote:Another new Scania Bustech in service this afternoon--1033.
1034 Scania Bustech entered service this morning,and 1035 this afternoon.
1035 did the last after midnight G10 to Blair Athol this morning also.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:58 pm
by nscaler69
Bustech seem to be pumping these new buses out quite quick, are they all locally built here or some just fitted out here.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:34 pm
by jibb
I believe they are all built here by Precision Buses. As at least 43 are now on the road and with 4/5 a month needed over next 18 months to replace MAN SL 202 buses as they reach retirement age,it must stand Bustech/Precision Buses a good chance of winning some of the tender for the 400 new buses needed over the next 10 years.
5 new additions to the TT fleet this week.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:37 pm
by jibb
Torrens Transit Decker 1790 has been off the road for well over a month now-just wondering if anyone knows its whereabouts? or problems?
Tindo seems a lo0st cause?
All J1X services are being operated by the Scania Bustechs from Mile End Depot.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:08 pm
by TA3001
Speaking of the aforementioned deliveries, I am still wondering when Newton is going to receive some.

It is good in a way that they haven't got anything newer than 1939, but I am interested to know when this will no longer be the case.

I have heard a rumour that the 1943-1078 (presumably the last one in this part of the current order) will be distributed equally across the TT depots, but all but 3 ex Newton CNGs have now been withdrawn, with NL232s to take their place in the interim.

And btw, how long does it actually take Precision to build one of these?

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:45 pm
by jibb
I think you mean 1973 which was the first of the current deliveries of Bustech Scanias. Not sure where you get up to 1078 as no details of current odeliveries/orders have been divulged?
Newton haven't had any MAN SL202's for sometime as they were transferred to Mile end when the the 2 separate fleets were combined last year.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:29 pm
by TA3001
I'm referring to the withdrawal of the SL202s in general. 1943 displaced 421, 1973 is insignificant having (numerically) stolen 1609's spot, as it's just another bus built by this provider.

It's called foresight. Given that there still 42 SL202s in service, another 42 Scanias will obviously be commissioned to replace them as they get close to 25 years old.

But I forgot to mention that there is at least one ex Darwin NL202 due for retirement next year, this being 1351. So it's possible that the deliveries will go to 1079 contrary to what I mentioned before, assuming that the Morphettville SL replacements aren't numbered in a different number range (18XX).

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:09 pm
by jibb
Scania Bustech 1036 entered service this afternoon.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:04 pm
by TT
Something a bit different to see 270 bus (MAN 18.280) doing 98A service this morning. Probably a result of the 20+ buses on loan to Mile End from all of the other Torrens depots while the tram subs are on.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by TA3001
Either it's a problem with real time info, or wheredabus has been playing up. But I have been seeing out of the ordinary observations in the last week. The 4:06 'G22X' has always shown up as being operated by a Newton NL232, when in reality it is done by St Agnes.

In general, buses are showing up on runs that start roughly 10-30 minutes before the one they're actually performing. I'm not even sure of the accuracy of on-time running, but it's definitely strange as. But fortunately, there is the still physical vehicle number to rely on, which is not subjected to technical issues.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:15 pm
by jibb
TA3001 wrote:Either it's a problem with real time info, or wheredabus has been playing up. But I have been seeing out of the ordinary observations in the last week. The 4:06 'G22X' has always shown up as being operated by a Newton NL232, when in reality it is done by St Agnes.

In general, buses are showing up on runs that start roughly 10-30 minutes before the one they're actually performing. I'm not even sure of the accuracy of on-time running, but it's definitely strange as. But fortunately, there is the still physical vehicle number to rely on, which is not subjected to technical issues.
Special Rostering during the school holidays plus buses being moved from depots to Mile End for Tram Service Subs buses that normally do particular runs have changed because of this.
I can vouch for "Wheres Da Bus" app as being pretty accurate most of the time. Have noticed a few times that a particular bus is doing 2 different runs at the same time, this could be due to driver keying in incorrect fleet number.
This app gets all its info direct from Adelaide Metro .

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:34 pm
by jibb
Torrens Transit Scania Bustech 1979 suffrered considerable front end damage last night following a collision with a motor vehicle at the intersection Days and Regency Roads.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:58 am
by TT
I believe 1979 is the same bus that was involved in a major accident at corner of Grand Jn and Addison Roads in December last year.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:23 pm
by busrider
That one was 1977.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:43 pm
by TT
Thanks. Yes I did a bit of a search and realised it was 1977.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:15 pm
by jibb
Be interesting to see how long Precision take to repair it?

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:55 pm
by jibb
2 new Scania Bustechs in service 1037 and 1038

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:02 pm
by TA3001
At which depot?

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:42 pm
by jibb
TA3001 wrote:At which depot?
Mile End.
No more withdrawls of MANs till after next Tuesday when Tram Subs cease.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:06 pm
by TA3001
So what has gone to Morphettville to account for the withdrawal of 851 then?

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:09 am
by jibb
TA3001 wrote:So what has gone to Morphettville to account for the withdrawal of 851 then?
Nothing as yet. O-Bahn Artic 1183 is an extra at Morphettville.

Re: [July/Aug 2019] SA transport observations

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:14 am
by Former driver37
jibb wrote:2 new Scania Bustechs in service 1037 and 1038
Was just on 1038 it was that new that the bcu/validator coin tray was not even fitted to vehicle yet was used tonight on tram sub work