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[Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:34 pm

gunzel42 wrote:Buses are again being stabled at the yard on the south-west corner of Sir Donald Bradman Drive and James Congdon Drive, in the yard recently frequented by Fulton Hogan until their move to Railway Terrace.

Only Hills artics at the moment I think.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby homer9000 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:07 am

i am surprised the old 1600 series buses have lasted this long which is a great testament to their design.a good bus but absolutely rubbish for airport usage.there is no place for luggage and the hassles due to them not being low floor getting suitcases in conjunction with a backpack is a nightmare.I curse the day the old straight through J1/J2 that started it's journey in the northern/north eastern suburbs and every bus you got for the most part on those after the old Mercedes fleet was low floor.nowadays it's a mix of any service to town to connect to any j1 in all it's variations or a j3 and the gamble on those is you never know what kind of bus you get.it's enough to send one over to smart car or citi car if the taxi services leaves a lot to be desired.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:34 am

homer9000 wrote:i am surprised the old 1600 series buses have lasted this long which is a great testament to their design.a good bus but absolutely rubbish for airport usage.there is no place for luggage and the hassles due to them not being low floor getting suitcases in conjunction with a backpack is a nightmare.

Have you written to Adelaide Metro to provide some feedback? If nobody says anything then everyone in power will think that it is working fine.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:21 pm

Vic Square is all messed up again due to the pageant grandstand erection.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:14 pm

I caught one on a weekend last year, and saw several others getting around on that day. It was during the footy, and it was probably because Mile End had absolutely no other choices, given that they have about 34 of the original 125 built.

It may be desirable to send some ex Morphettville ones back there to even out the numbers, and get 'reimbursed' with a few CB80s which Morphettville seems to have no shortage of.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby coach driver 1981 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:26 pm

Southlinks R801 and R802 have been renumbered 2859 and 2860
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby transenthusiast » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:40 pm

coach driver 1981 wrote:Southlinks R801 and R802 have been renumbered 2859 and 2860


Finally. Now it's time for Torrens' & Light City's 'R' series artics to be renumbered.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:41 pm

transenthusiast wrote:
coach driver 1981 wrote:Southlinks R801 and R802 have been renumbered 2859 and 2860


Finally. Now it's time for Torrens' & Light City's 'R' series artics to be renumbered.

Why? They're not part of the permanent fleets. I'm surprised that SouthLink's have been renumbered, although they perform the substitute services when the two major rail lines close so it's unlikely they'd have to give theirs up any time soon.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:41 pm

Finally. Now it's time for Torrens' & Light City's 'R' series artics to be renumbered.[/quote]
Why? They're not part of the permanent fleets. I'm surprised that SouthLink's have been renumbered, although they perform the substitute services when the two major rail lines close so it's unlikely they'd have to give theirs up any time soon.[/quote]
There has been talk of Light-City Buses R803-R804-R805 not only being renumbered, but being O --Bahn equipped for the new December timetables as LCB are going to require additional buses.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:08 pm

jibb wrote:There has been talk of Light-City Buses R803-R804-R805 not only being renumbered, but being O --Bahn equipped for the new December timetables as LCB are going to require additional buses.

Why will LCB require additional buses? Have you seen the new timetables?
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:18 am

Eagle Eye wrote:
jibb wrote:There has been talk of Light-City Buses R803-R804-R805 not only being renumbered, but being O --Bahn equipped for the new December timetables as LCB are going to require additional buses.

Why will LCB require additional buses? Have you seen the new timetables?

There will be additional peak hour services.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:19 am

Interesting that LCB Midi 124 was back in service this morning on a 262 from Marion to the City.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Route 506 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:05 pm

jibb wrote:Interesting that LCB Midi 124 was back in service this morning on a 262 from Marion to the City.


My bus this morning was none other than LCB Midi 120 so there must be a few back in service for a while. I must say it sounded better today than the previous time I travelled on it, a while ago. It was a nice surprise! :D
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:18 pm

LCB had 118 to 122 ,124 and 1709.
Southlink had 2101-2102-2106+2108-2112-2113-2115-2116-2117 plus 1731
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:42 pm

LCB supplying 10 buses for Rail subs
from Wingfield;1522-1525-1526-1527-118-119
from St Agnes;1803-1809-1810-1007
With the exception of 1522 all the others are loaned by Morphettville Depot.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby mmosca447 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:30 pm

Saw 124 and 2116 out and about this afternoon at Flinders Uni
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby homer9000 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:52 pm

I miss the days of when the now c1/c2 used to continue onwards to the airport as a j1/j2 when all the buses after the mercedes fleet were phased out on the o'bahn when it became 100% scanias straight through.i will send in some feedback to demand a change across the board as there are many backpackers and visitors to the state who want affordable transport to the city hotels and the city itself and maxi limo/smart car and even the adelaide airport shuttle are not always available when you need them and the thought of a smelly indian taxi leaves a lot to be desired.except for say the j1x.you still see the old buses on the airport and onwards to glenelg present day services of j1 in all it's variations and the j3.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:42 pm

jibb wrote:LCB supplying 10 buses for Rail subs
from Wingfield;1522-1525-1526-1527-118-119
from St Agnes;1803-1809-1810-1007
With the exception of 1522 all the others are loaned by Morphettville Depot.

It seems like LCB have supplied more buses than Midis they have received. Perhaps this can put to bed rumours that LCB are short for buses?
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:44 pm

homer9000 wrote:I miss the days of when the now c1/c2 used to continue onwards to the airport as a j1/j2 when all the buses after the mercedes fleet were phased out on the o'bahn when it became 100% scanias straight through.i will send in some feedback to demand a change across the board as there are many backpackers and visitors to the state who want affordable transport to the city hotels and the city itself and maxi limo/smart car and even the adelaide airport shuttle are not always available when you need them and the thought of a smelly indian taxi leaves a lot to be desired.except for say the j1x.you still see the old buses on the airport and onwards to glenelg present day services of j1 in all it's variations and the j3.


Of all the high floor buses currently in service, Torrens Transit has about 70% of them, LCB has about 30%, and SouthLink has none. It's hardly the fault of Torrens Transit that they still have to use these buses on all sorts of routes, which sometimes includes the JetBus routes. Unfortunately, you'll just have to wait until their replacements are built and delivered, which is already happening now.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby coach driver 1981 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:25 pm

jibb wrote:LCB supplying 10 buses for Rail subs
from Wingfield;1522-1525-1526-1527-118-119
from St Agnes;1803-1809-1810-1007
With the exception of 1522 all the others are loaned by Morphettville Depot.

and drivers as well it was weird seeing 1809 pulling up in the city doing a ML2 with a LCB operator behind the wheel also spotted St Agnes 1467 on rail work
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:47 pm

Eagle Eye wrote:
jibb wrote:LCB supplying 10 buses for Rail subs
from Wingfield;1522-1525-1526-1527-118-119
from St Agnes;1803-1809-1810-1007
With the exception of 1522 all the others are loaned by Morphettville Depot.

It seems like LCB have supplied more buses than Midis they have received. Perhaps this can put to bed rumours that LCB are short for buses?

Currently LCB have 6 O_Bahn Artics (1101,1104,1113,1142,1148,1162) that have been out of service for some time,waiting on various turbo/engine parts.
Normally Morphettvile will have at least 14/15 buses in their workshops in peak hours-this morning that figure was 9(4 of them Midis),they had no spare buses available,neither did St Agnes.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:04 pm

jibb wrote:Normally Morphettvile will have at least 14/15 buses in their workshops in peak hours-this morning that figure was 9(4 of them Midis),they had no spare buses available,neither did St Agnes.

I'd be surprised if Torrens Transit and SouthLink had more than 1 or 2 spare buses in their depots too - all three companies are currently operating rail sub services.

This morning 1704 was in service at Mawson Lakes operating a 225X but without SouthLink destos programmed. Was showing an A4 piece of paper in the front window with a handwritten 225X on it.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby coach driver 1981 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:13 am

Eagle Eye wrote:
jibb wrote:Normally Morphettvile will have at least 14/15 buses in their workshops in peak hours-this morning that figure was 9(4 of them Midis),they had no spare buses available,neither did St Agnes.

I'd be surprised if Torrens Transit and SouthLink had more than 1 or 2 spare buses in their depots too - all three companies are currently operating rail sub services.

This morning 1704 was in service at Mawson Lakes operating a 225X but without SouthLink destos programmed. Was showing an A4 piece of paper in the front window with a handwritten 225X on it.

Lonsdale depot are struggling to make peak hour despatch every possible vehicle is out and only a couple parked up waiting on parts
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:03 am

That would have been an interesting photo opportunity.

The reasons being that it's unusual for a non hills Southlink vehicle not to get renumbered into the 2000 range (obviously due to requirements). Also, Southlink midis are forbidden from doing city runs.

Did it have Southlink listed on the side above the door?
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eurostar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:39 am

I was driving along hewittson road (road to Elizabeth depot) in front was a Torrens Transit MAN 11.190 bus # 1714 , it turned into depot. It had J1X on back desto
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