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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:27 pm

Picked up a few timetables at Marion today-reprints dated 4/3/2017-probably more at City info centre.Obviously as current stocks run out new timetables are printed.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby MrNicoster » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:20 pm

jibb wrote:
MrNicoster wrote:Correction, second to last 591C of the day. (Said friend was me, who went to get a ride on 117, got chatting with a driver, who got to Golden Grove 10 min early for the last 591C with 1820 to replace 117 for the last trip as he was not happy with the performance of it, he called it a break down but didn't seem like it to me...)[
Wondering if many people use the 591's in the morning or the afternoon?


No, there was only 2 other patrons on the service I was on. I can't say for other times of the day as that was my first time using the route.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Diesel_MAN » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:42 am

TransitTimes was apparently updated again on the 11th of March. However, it does not seem to have done any good as half of all services listed are no longer displaying real-time information for no apparent reason.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:09 am

Actually it was working fine until yesterday.I feel it is a problem emanating from Adelaide Metro's feed.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Diesel_MAN » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:25 am

jibb wrote:Actually it was working fine until yesterday.I feel it is a problem emanating from Adelaide Metro's feed.

Hopefully that is the case. There's definitely something wrong, but maybe it will return to normal after peak hour.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:32 am

Diesel_MAN wrote:
jibb wrote:Actually it was working fine until yesterday.I feel it is a problem emanating from Adelaide Metro's feed.

Hopefully that is the case. There's definitely something wrong, but maybe it will return to normal after peak hour.

There is a message on the Adelaide Metro website that "due to a Telstra Communications fault customers may experience difficulties with real-time".
This would explain the rpoblems being experienced by Transit Times.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Diesel_MAN » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:34 am

jibb wrote:There is a message on the Adelaide Metro website that "due to a Telstra Communications fault customers may experience difficulties with real-time".
This would explain the rpoblems being experienced by Transit Times.

That's interesting. Good to know that they have identified the issue and are hopefully working to resolve it.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:48 am

Problem has been fixed its now fully functional again.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:01 pm

Bus 1574 is in a new AOA for Vodafone. Looks quite good as an all-red bus!
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:46 pm

The BusTech hasn't hit the road yet (not in service anyway), but another new Scania was delivered to Port depot today.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:25 pm

Looks like 1504 has had all it's lower rear lights replaced with LED versions. Tired of replacing blown globes maybe? Upper ones are still the old type. Looks odd.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:35 pm

1504 has had rear lights like that for about 12 months, like a lot of other 18.280s from Port depot. All done at about the same time.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:05 pm

It appears the upgrade and electrification of the Gawler line has been put back another year as a full business case for the Gawler rail line upgrade will not be handed to the agency essential for Federal funding until next year,again stalling the program Infrastructure Australia(IA) and the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development accused the the SA Government of not providing a detailed business case for the Gawler line electrification.
An spokeswoman said the agency had only received an early stage submission on the Gawler line upgrade in September 2015.This was not a full business case submission.The SA Government has indicated it will provide a full business case for the Gawler line upgrade. in the next year.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:50 pm

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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby bigrobbo » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:24 pm

MrNicoster wrote:Correction, second to last 591C of the day. (Said friend was me, who went to get a ride on 117, got chatting with a driver, who got to Golden Grove 10 min early for the last 591C with 1820 to replace 117 for the last trip as he was not happy with the performance of it, he called it a break down but didn't seem like it to me...)]


No, there was only 2 other patrons on the service I was on. I can't say for other times of the day as that was my first time using the route.[/quote]

I have taken up temporary residency in Greenwith. I take the first 591A most mornings up Rueben Richardson Drive as I am too lazy to walk, and then transfer to a C2X or 548 on Golden Grove Road.

It is very rare to get any other passengers for the segment I do at that time of day.

The second 591A is full of Golden Grove High kids. It may as well be a school bus. Kids are picked up along every little street the route services.

I caught the last 591A yesterday morning (441 it was, which made a change from the midi's!). That gets used a little.

By the time I get back up to Golden Grove/Greenwith from work, I have missed the last 591C so I cannot comment on patronage.

Though most drivers are either new to driving or have not driven the route before, or so it seems!
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:58 am

Transit Times has a new update(24th March version).
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:10 pm

Another new Scania/CB80 has arrived at Port, registered SB22MP.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:16 pm

jibb wrote:It appears the upgrade and electrification of the Gawler line has been put back another year as a full business case for the Gawler rail line upgrade will not be handed to the agency essential for Federal funding until next year,again stalling the program Infrastructure Australia(IA) and the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development accused the the SA Government of not providing a detailed business case for the Gawler line electrification.
An spokeswoman said the agency had only received an early stage submission on the Gawler line upgrade in September 2015.This was not a full business case submission.The SA Government has indicated it will provide a full business case for the Gawler line upgrade. in the next year.

As much as I'd love to see more lines electrified, I have to say it really doesn't make economic sense at this point in time. Probably about half(?) of the current DEMU fleet would be dedicated to the Gawler line and if the line is electrified and new electric trains purchased, what would you do with those large number of DEMU cars that would be left sitting doing nothing in the depot? As long as the DEMUs still have some decent life left in them it doesn't make sense to get rid of them just yet. As maintenance costs increase or their age becomes a real factor only then will new electrics replace them, and the electrification of the line won't precede that by too many years. As for the effects of a partial electrification to either Dry Creek or Salisbury - that may provide some logistical challenges for timetabling, or might be a stepping stone to the DEMU retirements. But all in all, I can't see any electrification work happening on the Gawler line in the next 3-5 years.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:59 pm

The Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan said the tenders would soon be called for the electrification from Adelaide to Salisbury. This would mean that passengers wishing to travel further would need to change to Diesel trains to complete their journey.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:42 am

jibb wrote:The Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan said the tenders would soon be called for the electrification from Adelaide to Salisbury. This would mean that passengers wishing to travel further would need to change to Diesel trains to complete their journey.


Why would they need to change trains to complete their journey? - Have express diesel services been tabled? Or shortened diesel services?

Just wanting to better understand this observation.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:57 am

The new Bustech at Port Depot has now been numbered as 1906.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:04 pm

Does this mean that it's a trial bus? Has it taken the place of an SL202?
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:46 pm

DTPI are trialling a number of different style/brands of buses to determine which model will be chosen when the current Scania contract expires.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby transenthusiast » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:57 pm

busrider wrote:Another new Scania/CB80 has arrived at Port, registered SB22MP.


To be numbered 1954 I dare say.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:04 pm

Yep, the latest Scania is now wearing 1954. With the BusTech 1906 as jibb has recorded. And that will mean another two of the 400s will be put out to pasture within the next few days.
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