NSW Railway Observations 2019

[TSE_SecretAni]

The Northern Line is finally becoming red again, and will be renamed T9, from April 28.

Where did you find that map?

[kypros1992]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/a-n ... 50z1r.html

Still need to give the T6 designation to something else when (or if) the line closes this or next year

[swtt]

In all honesty, I don't understand why the T9/red line wasn't resurrected on 30/9/2018 when the ECRL shut down.

[swtt]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/a-n ... 50z1r.html

Still need to give the T6 designation to something else when (or if) the line closes this or next year

T6 Inner West (Parramatta)
T2 Leppington

[J_Busworth]

At least common sense has finally prevailed. The introduction of the T8 and now T9 to simplify the network for customers makes the map so much better. They are going to need to renumber the line sooner or later. With the impending conversions of the Bankstown and Carlingford line to Metro and Light Rail respectively I presume we will eventually be back at T1-T7.

[swtt]

At least common sense has finally prevailed. The introduction of the T8 and now T9 to simplify the network for customers makes the map so much better. They are going to need to renumber the line sooner or later. With the impending conversions of the Bankstown and Carlingford line to Metro and Light Rail respectively I presume we will eventually be back at T1-T7.

T3 will be a Lidcombe-Liverpool-Bankstown (or Yagoona!) triangle

[stupid_girl]

In all honesty, I don't understand why the T9/red line wasn't resurrected on 30/9/2018 when the ECRL shut down.

Is it because they only make the decision to break up the Hornsby-Hornsby loop again this year?

[swtt]

In all honesty, I don't understand why the T9/red line wasn't resurrected on 30/9/2018 when the ECRL shut down.

Is it because they only make the decision to break up the Hornsby-Hornsby loop again this year?

I think so. My suspicion is that off peak Hornsby via Strathfield trains will go to Gordon, and Western services will go all the way to Hornsby/Berowra.

It's almost the same arrangement as the pre-ECRL TT - where Hornsby via Strathfield proceeded to Lindfield.

[kypros1992]

It's almost the same arrangement as the pre-ECRL TT - where Hornsby via Strathfield proceeded to Lindfield.

According to the map, some services will still terminate at Lindfield and Nth Sydney, judging by the bold station names

[Aurora]

Is it because they only make the decision to break up the Hornsby-Hornsby loop again this year?

I think so. My suspicion is that off peak Hornsby via Strathfield trains will go to Gordon, and Western services will go all the way to Hornsby/Berowra.

It's almost the same arrangement as the pre-ECRL TT - where Hornsby via Strathfield proceeded to Lindfield.

No, at this stage the difference is the late North Sydney terminators will extend to Gordon. Not much of a change but provides more late services from the city for the metro connection.

[swtt]

No, at this stage the difference is the late North Sydney terminators will extend to Gordon. Not much of a change but provides more late services from the city for the metro connection.

So on the indicator screens, down T9 services ex Hornsby via Eastwood could go all the way to Hornsby via Gordon and show up as T9?

[Frodo]

A few minor changes to central coast services for tonight only-

6.04pm Central to Gosford is not stopping at Redfern
Minor timing changes and some services scheduled to stop at platform 6 at Strathfield during the afternoon peak
10.48pm Central to Newcastle is skipping Asquith, Mt Colah, and Mt Kuringgai as it has been built up to 8V - instead, the 10.33pm Central to Hornsby via Strathfield has been extended to Berowra, departing Hornsby after the newcastle train

[swtt]

Probably to cater for the increased patronage due to the Eminem concert at Olympic Park.

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[boronia]

Second Bathurst Bullet service to stop at Tarana
https://www.oberonreview.com.au/story/5 ... ySjaWE3ebA

Wow, Tarana must be a busy station, getting Opal gates LOL

[Transport Buff]

Spotted a couple B Sets on the T7 on Anytrip! They are going from Central, and stopping at Redfern, Strathfield and Olympic Park.
https://anytrip.com.au/?searchString=Ry ... t:S06C%2F0

[Xplorer]

event at SOP, not surprising

[sunnyyan]

A42 has returned to Sydney with the car that hit the stop buffer being replaced by D6379 (part of the prototype)
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZvHP3r12PQ

[mandonov]

I was starting to think I'd never see it leave Cardiff.

[andy_centralcoast]

A few minor changes to central coast services for tonight only-

6.04pm Central to Gosford is not stopping at Redfern
Minor timing changes and some services scheduled to stop at platform 6 at Strathfield during the afternoon peak
10.48pm Central to Newcastle is skipping Asquith, Mt Colah, and Mt Kuringgai as it has been built up to 8V - instead, the 10.33pm Central to Hornsby via Strathfield has been extended to Berowra, departing Hornsby after the newcastle train

11:48pm Central to Newcastle also built up to 8V and after Epping the guard announced "the stopping pattern has changed due to an operational issue" and would now skip Asquith, Mt Colah and Mt Kuringai. Customers for these stops were told to get off at Hornsby and see station staff who would call taxis for them.

At Berowra the train arrived on the shorter Platform 2 instead of Platform 3 and at first it didn't open the doors because the rear car was off the platform, but then after a minute or so they relented announcing 'front 7 cars'.

It was all a bit bizarre as 8V have stopped at Asquith to Berowra before with no issue and it was a regularly timetabled occurrence until recently.

Meanwhile at Cowan and all other short platform stations they announced the usual 'front/rear 2/4/6 cars' as normal.

[gilberations]

At Berowra the train arrived on the shorter Platform 2 instead of Platform 3 and at first it didn't open the doors because the rear car was off the platform, but then after a minute or so they relented announcing 'front 7 cars'.

It was all a bit bizarre as 8V have stopped at Asquith to Berowra before with no issue and it was a regularly timetabled occurrence until recently.

Meanwhile at Cowan and all other short platform stations they announced the usual 'front/rear 2/4/6 cars' as normal.

Re Berowra:
I imagine an argument with the driver and the guard took place as to the stopping position. In this instance, they would both be right, so the guard would have had to defer to the driver. The guard should have been on the platform, but since P3 opened there’s no 8V marker on the platform 2 track, and even so, the lead car would have been both fowling points and under a bridge... both of which are prohibited without a local working appendix.

Re stopping Asquith - Mt Kurring-gai:
8 V can stop at all those platforms but they require an on board repeater as on the blue mountains. Usually there is a second guard rostered to do this when it’s planned but as it wasn’t planned, it’s quicker to chancel the stops than it is to have the guard walk the length of the platform twice at each station. The guard could have cut out and moved to the 5th car but as it wasn’t an emergency it wouldn’t have been allowed as the act of the guard cutting out would have released all the doors on both sides of the train which is only permitted at terminating locations.

[Frosty]

^Getting customers taxis to Asquith - Mt Kurring-gai wouldn't have been cheap particularly late at night & likely having to use regular 4 seat cabs. Does anybody know if Sydney Trains uses Uber as a taxi service ?

[BroadGauge]

^Getting customers taxis to Asquith - Mt Kurring-gai wouldn't have been cheap particularly late at night

It wouldn't have cost that much really. It's only just up the road.

Probably cheaper than the cost of paying for train crew to work overtime, if they had decided to extend another train to Berowra to make up for the lack of service to those stations.

[Xplorer]

plus, probably not delivering them to home, just to the station. hardly anyone travels beyond Asquith anyway

[andy_centralcoast]

Re Berowra:
I imagine an argument with the driver and the guard took place as to the stopping position. In this instance, they would both be right, so the guard would have had to defer to the driver. The guard should have been on the platform, but since P3 opened there’s no 8V marker on the platform 2 track, and even so, the lead car would have been both fowling points and under a bridge... both of which are prohibited without a local working appendix.

Re stopping Asquith - Mt Kurring-gai:
8 V can stop at all those platforms but they require an on board repeater as on the blue mountains. Usually there is a second guard rostered to do this when it’s planned but as it wasn’t planned, it’s quicker to chancel the stops than it is to have the guard walk the length of the platform twice at each station. The guard could have cut out and moved to the 5th car but as it wasn’t an emergency it wouldn’t have been allowed as the act of the guard cutting out would have released all the doors on both sides of the train which is only permitted at terminating locations.

What's different about those stations that they need an on board repeater? All the other short platforms north of Berowra didn't? The transportnsw website even lists Asquith, Mt Colah and Berowra as 'last 6 cars' - that could only be for 8V.

And I assume it was planned because the run was listed as 8 car intercity in TripView.

[gilberations]

What's different about those stations that they need an on board repeater? All the other short platforms north of Berowra didn't? The transportnsw website even lists Asquith, Mt Colah and Berowra as 'last 6 cars' - that could only be for 8V.

And I assume it was planned because the run was listed as 8 car intercity in TripView.

TripView is updated as live where possible. The service was probably originally an H set or a 4V, or it it was always an 8V the lack of repeated would have been a scheduling error.

As to the need for a repeater, I already answered that question. It’s nothing to do with the length of the platform, but it’s curve