288/295/544 Macquarie Park (not Centre?)

[OKO]

Just wondering -- recent iterations of the 288, 295 & 544 destos have shown Macquarie Park ("MACQUARIE PK HERRING RD") as its destination instead of Macquarie Centre.

When was this changed, and why? Macquarie Centre was perfect -- everyone knew where it was, even though the final stop may have been opposite the road.

As a result of HASTUS information being fed to the OPAL system, the last stop showing on the BDC was Macquarie Park Station, the old AFD only had the journals stating Centre.
So, drivers started terminating in line with OPAL under instructions from Management. This immediately generated many complaints through the TfNSW feedback line. Most of the complaints were along two lines; 1) Desto states Centre not station and 2) it has always gone to the Centre.

With six minutes between trips, it was decided that this was too long to layup between trips at the stops at the Centre, and insufficient time to go around and come back on time. The option of increasing the layup time to facilitate around the Uni or Waterloo rd and back to be on time was explored but knocked on the head due to costs.
So the Destos were altered to make it obvious that the trip terminated prior to the Centre. This has done little to reduce the feedback issues especially in regard to the 295 and the typical passenger it carries to the area.

[swtt]

But what abut 292? Is that staying as Macquarie Ctr?

Couldn't understand the logic at all. Macquarie Ctr was simply, fine.

[Frosty]

I'm pretty sure all 292 services terminate at Marsfield Busaco Rd. Do you mean 294?

But destos aren't that accurate since I was looking at the 391 vs the 309 destos. The 309 often terminates at Matraville Hotel or either Moornia Ave. But the 391 terminates at Matraville at Moornia Ave only not Hotel. The 309 destos show Matraville Hotel or Matraville Moornia Ave. The 391 shows simply Matraville.

But this debate about Macquarie Park Herring Rd vs Macquarie Centre. Reminds me of like Warringah Mall Inside vs Outside. Do we call a bus that terminates outside Warringah Mall Pittwater Rd Brookvale.

[swtt]

I'm pretty sure all 292 services terminate at Marsfield Busaco Rd. Do you mean 294?

But destos aren't that accurate since I was looking at the 391 vs the 309 destos. The 309 often terminates at Matraville Hotel or either Moornia Ave. But the 391 terminates at Matraville at Moornia Ave only not Hotel. The 309 destos show Matraville Hotel or Matraville Moornia Ave. The 391 shows simply Matraville.

But this debate about Macquarie Park Herring Rd vs Macquarie Centre. Reminds me of like Warringah Mall Inside vs Outside. Do we call a bus that terminates outside Warringah Mall Pittwater Rd Brookvale.

There are a whole stack of 292s that are short runners to Macq Centre only during the peaks.

The trouble is that this has been known to be Macquarie Ctr for as long as STA has operated this region... suddenly to call it Macquarie Park (which doesn't match with the PDF TTs) gives a false sense that it also goes to Macquarie Park Station (which routes like M54 do actually use).

Just to throw the last spanner in the works, Macquarie Park for M41 is the worst possible one. The only sort of accuracy is that the "destination" of Macquarie Park is that it almost traverses the entire Macquarie Park from west to east!

[Frosty]

Hold on what happens if we call the M41 Marsfield hold on then that would confuse it with the 293/292 terminus of Busaco Rd. Call it Mac Uni Waterloo Rd or Mac Uni Waterloo Park.

Hold on along with that all those Parra Rd services that terminate at Pitt and Barlow St destos generally display Railway Square. But the 440 actually terminates at Railway Square since otherwise the next stop would be Eddy Ave and then continues towards Bondi Jn.

[swtt]

Hold on what happens if we call the M41 Marsfield hold on then that would confuse it with the 293/292 terminus of Busaco Rd. Call it Mac Uni Waterloo Rd or Mac Uni Waterloo Park.

On reading the latest M41 flyer, it no longer states Marsfield Waterloo Park is the terminus! (Rather, Macquarie Park is used).

Hold on along with that all those Parra Rd services that terminate at Pitt and Barlow St destos generally display Railway Square. But the 440 actually terminates at Railway Square since otherwise the next stop would be Eddy Ave and then continues towards Bondi Jn.

Probably not a huge deal with Railway Square services. But probably even better when it states (like the 891) CENTRAL - PITT ST (891 shows CENTRAL - EDDY AVENUE)

[boronia]

Many of the 891 services terminate in Chalmers St.

[swtt]

Many of the 891 services terminate in Chalmers St.

yeah, even when the desto says "Central - Eddy Ave"

[boronia]

In the "old days" it was just CENTRAL RAILWAY to cover Eddy Ave or Railway Square.

But if I was wanting to get a bus to the Mac Centre, I might have second thoughts about catching a bus going to Mac Park

[marcnut1996]

Services to Railway Square (from Parramatta Road) don't actually end at Railway Square. They end at Pitt Street Belmore Park, they just state Railway Square because everyone knows that. About M41, it would make sense to name it Macquarie Park cause very little people would go to Marsfield Waterloo Park and people who do go there would understand. However, for buses to Macquarie Centre stating Macquarie Park, this kind of arrangment would make zero sense as Macquarie Centre is also very popular destination.

[Swift]

If a desto has always worked, why go to the effort to change it if it is only likely to cause more headaches rather than make things clearer?

[Stu]

During Mard-Gras last year and this year, there was 1 x additional service that commenced from Macquarie Park (Epping & Herring Rd's) and 1 x additional service that commenced from Macquarie Centre.