Well I forgot after I all these months.Haha... i acutally find it more quicker going to mona vale.... because its only stop at narrabeen/rat park and mona vale.... and the stop in manly vale is not that bad.Jurassic_Joke wrote:Very slight side comment, observation and thought, but for the first time in quite a few months, I took an L90 bus today, from Warringah Mall to the City, instead of the B-line.
And it actually felt faster than B-Line, because it doesn't stop at Manly Vale.
Unfortunately, the very limited frequency and operating hours means I can't really take L90 seriously anymore, its just casual if I'm travelling in the Beaches, but the nostalgia is there.
Read the argument from that worm from the advertising industry defending it in the comments. The needs of the many he says, as though we need to see products getting flogged.Tonymercury wrote:I suppose this was inevitable -
https://mumbrella.com.au/apn-outdoors-b ... ers-514149
Randwick depot is the worst offender, glad I'm not from there. So many buses, full right side, completely covered. All the Iveco Metro Optimus, about 2/3 of the right side of the bus is covered. Also, Ryde, the standard B12BLE Volgrens, I think just about every one is also, 100% covered on the right side.rogf24 wrote:On that matter, is it just me of have I been noticing less AOA recently. I haven't been on a bus with AOA in ages. I haven't even been on a bus with the other infamous form of advertising where the entire right side would be covered but the left side is fine. The only exception I've seen is a Hillsbus double decker where about 3/4 of the length of the bus top-bottom was covered. Otherwise, the worse I've seen recently has been one where about 1/2 the right side has been covered around the centre of the bus but that's not exactly full AOA.
Only when it opened accompanied by his minders so that he didn't end up at Rouse Hill on a yellow bus.Jurassic_Joke wrote:
Have you ever ridden on a B-line bus, Andrew?
That is the directive from TfNSW. They are to stop regardless.Jurassic_Joke wrote:Otherwise comment for this thread - I notice the B-Line operates one way differently than the rest of the buses. I’ve noticed now a couple of times that buses are seemingly not allowed to skip stops if the stop is empty AND no one has pressed the button, the bus stops there for about 30 seconds anyway regardless.
Looks familiar.Jurassic_Joke wrote:
Need a more common-sense approach. Just do it how Amsterdam does, so both sides (advertiser and bus passenger) win - https://farm1.static.flickr.com/312/188 ... d649_b.jpg .
Not sure what milling around means. It would save a bit of the dwell if people could start boarding through the front door and start tagging on while others are exiting through the centre. The dwells are already terrible in deckers. Anything that speeds it up would be good.OKO wrote: As I understand it, there have been some issues with people milling around. The drivers are doing their best to manage the chaos.
They are treating the service as a quasi-tram or train route (without the capacity!), but a stop like this should take only a few seconds. The former tram system ran like this and it still achieved faster journey times than the buses that replaced it skipping stops! That's because when a bus stopped it stopped for ages loading and unloading and was slow getting underway again. That's how "first set down" and express bus services came into being - in a desperate effort to "prove" that the bus services were better than the trams they replaced. They just forgot about capacity....OKO wrote: That is the directive from TfNSW. They are to stop regardless.
Further, the headway monitoring is being stepped up. If they are timetabled three minutes apart, and one is running late, then the following deckers are being contacted and asked to slow it up or dwell at stops until the headway is regained. This train like approach can only end in tears. With so many shifts being close to the five hours, and drivers being told to wait, it is resulting in breeches, drivers missing their meals. In turn, other drivers need to be work altered to cover B1 trips, resulting in less other services.
I think certain adverts can be good idea on buses to make things differentlunchbox wrote:I thank tonyp for the above reference to the turning advertising tide on Melbourne trams.
Time, perhaps, to remind our Minister Constance that it's not the advertising industry's "affluent demographic" electors in the safe Northern Beaches seats who will react negatively to having stuff all over their upper-deck panoramic windows, but the tourists from the marginal electorates, for whom the utter contempt of the advertising industry, and by default, the Minister himself, has them looking though spotted glass in any attempt to enjoy the coastal scenery. It's quite practicable to have effective all-over-advertising without covering the windows. Witness the many tourist buses so treated.
With less than 12 months to the state election, the "no-junk-on-windows" pen is firmly in the Minister's hand. But has he got the guts?
Whole-of-vehicle advertising on trams and buses is as old as the hills. The issue that's emerged in recent years is that they've taken to covering the windows too. I don't think anybody objects to the body of the vehicle having advertising wrap, but not the windows.GazzaOak wrote:
I think certain adverts can be good idea on buses to make things different
Must be quite recent.rogf24 wrote:When did this advertising roll out? I saw a B Line bus entirely covered in Clarendon Homes recently.
