Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
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Why would they have hop compliant logos? The food court is managed by the mall not Transport for NSW, the mall decides what signs it wants to put.
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Why has the City of Sydney council decided to use Hop compliant logos for their street signage then?
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The Council’s public domain team more closely liaises with TfNSW wayfinding team - compared to a privately operated food court.boxythingy wrote:Why has the City of Sydney council decided to use Hop compliant logos for their street signage then?
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Twin tunnels Chatswood to Sydenham almost complete:
https://www.sydneymetro.info/article/hi ... U2310n1EXM
https://www.sydneymetro.info/article/hi ... U2310n1EXM
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Just for the dull, uneducated and acronym-illiterate among us (including me), what are hop compliant logos?boxythingy wrote:Oh so the food court is brand new, so why don't the signs have hop compliant logos?
And no, Google has not been my friend.
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This should help. All the M T B F & L round signs you see are part of “The Hop” brand.
https://transportnsw.info/plan/help-wit ... line-codes
https://transportnsw.info/plan/help-wit ... line-codes
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Thanks 745-Castle Hill, you gave me something to work on...
Hop on NSW transport with their unified brand - Liquid Creativity
"Sydney’s public transport – trains, buses, ferries and light rails – have come together under one unified brand. The new logo, called “The Hop”, depicts a bouncy ball featuring a couple of colourful linking arches and replaces more than a dozen of NSW transport logos. The format is replicated for Sydney’s trains, buses, ferries, light rail and NSW Trainlink with different colours being assigned to each mode of transport."
Source - https://liquidcreativity.com.au/nsw-tra ... ied-brand/
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Hop on NSW transport with their unified brand - Liquid Creativity
"Sydney’s public transport – trains, buses, ferries and light rails – have come together under one unified brand. The new logo, called “The Hop”, depicts a bouncy ball featuring a couple of colourful linking arches and replaces more than a dozen of NSW transport logos. The format is replicated for Sydney’s trains, buses, ferries, light rail and NSW Trainlink with different colours being assigned to each mode of transport."
Source - https://liquidcreativity.com.au/nsw-tra ... ied-brand/
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Despite transport authorities' efforts to simplify, unify, and coordinate NSW's transport "branding" (as discussed above), there is still plenty of scope for casual users to get confused. And it will get worse. Things would have been simpler had Metro simply been inroduced as just another new rail line. A whole lot of signage and other service information might have been more easily understood. There is no good reason, for example, for forcing passengers to tag off and on again when transferring between Metro and Sydney Trains at Sydenham.
Which leads me to think about Westmead (a Metro terminus), North Strathfield and the CBD on Metro West. A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Which, again, leads me to ask - Do passengers currently have to tag off and on again when transferring between lines at Epping?
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Which leads me to think about Westmead (a Metro terminus), North Strathfield and the CBD on Metro West. A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Which, again, leads me to ask - Do passengers currently have to tag off and on again when transferring between lines at Epping?
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I am quite surprised this is asked so many months after metro opening. In both ECRL era and metro era, Chatswood and Epping stations have integrated paid areas.lunchbox wrote:Despite transport authorities' efforts to simplify, unify, and coordinate NSW's transport "branding" (as discussed above), there is still plenty of scope for casual users to get confused. And it will get worse. Things would have been simpler had Metro simply been inroduced as just another new rail line. A whole lot of signage and other service information might have been more easily understood. There is no good reason, for example, for forcing passengers to tag off and on again when transferring between Metro and Sydney Trains at Sydenham.
Which leads me to think about Westmead (a Metro terminus), North Strathfield and the CBD on Metro West. A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Which, again, leads me to ask - Do passengers currently have to tag off and on again when transferring between lines at Epping?
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No tap on/off is required between train and metro at either Epping or Chatswood. I assume the same would apply at Sydenham (you can change platforms there without going through the barriers).
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No at Epping.
And even bigger No at Chatswood where you have cross-platform transfer.
Both stations have dual M/T branding
Yes it could have been just T branding, but government like to promote Shiny things. No different to the M bus routes 15yrs ago, or the B-Line more recently.
And even bigger No at Chatswood where you have cross-platform transfer.
Both stations have dual M/T branding
Yes it could have been just T branding, but government like to promote Shiny things. No different to the M bus routes 15yrs ago, or the B-Line more recently.
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I could transfer between between Sydney Trains and the metro at Epping without having to tap off and back on when I was traveling to Macquarie Centre in September 2019lunchbox wrote:Which leads me to think about Westmead (a Metro terminus), North Strathfield and the CBD on Metro West. A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Which, again, leads me to ask - Do passengers currently have to tag off and on again when transferring between lines at Epping?
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There is no facility at Chatswood to tap of/on for transfers
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As the Opal fare system allows for transfers already, even if there was two different stations in close proximity, this may not be as big an issue.lunchbox wrote:A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Otherwise you end up with separate tunnels/pathways for paid and unpaid areas not unlike some stations in Hong Kong and Tokyo, and in the case of the latter that's because of the different rail operators and gate lines (Shinjuku Station, anyone?).
Both of those cases it's because the fare systems don't particularly have the notion of a "journey" and "trip" like we do.
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I wonder if the 9 station rule will cover metro and train stations in close proximity (such as Victoria Cross and North Sydney).pgt wrote:As the Opal fare system allows for transfers already, even if there was two different stations in close proximity, this may not be as big an issue.lunchbox wrote:A common "paid area" between the platforms of the two operators would be beneficial to transferring passengers as they would not have to tag off and then on again, and pedestrian flows would also improve as a result.
Otherwise you end up with separate tunnels/pathways for paid and unpaid areas not unlike some stations in Hong Kong and Tokyo, and in the case of the latter that's because of the different rail operators and gate lines (Shinjuku Station, anyone?).
Both of those cases it's because the fare systems don't particularly have the notion of a "journey" and "trip" like we do.
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Would expect so.
Although that restriction was only brought in when it was 8 then free to stop people making multiple quick journeys on a Monday.
Now it's 8 then 50% and the $50 cap, the 'hackability' is more limited
Although that restriction was only brought in when it was 8 then free to stop people making multiple quick journeys on a Monday.
Now it's 8 then 50% and the $50 cap, the 'hackability' is more limited
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From the Hills Metro-users Facebook group, Bella Vista carpark in morning peak now:
As usual, some funny memes from this good-humored group -
"When you work from home and miss the metro":
As usual, some funny memes from this good-humored group -
"When you work from home and miss the metro":
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Recent view of station excavation in Bathurst St.
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Inquiry into Sydenham to Bankstown conversion released. Predictably the opposition members of the Upper House Transport & Customer Service Committee found that the conversion should not proceed, while the government members dissented. Does however give the government an out should it seek to scale back the project, given that there will inevitably have to be some cutbacks to projects as a result of the state's weakened financial position.
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May not be needed yet for T3.
But desperately needed for T2 and T8 though and will better relieve Town Hall and Wynyard.
But desperately needed for T2 and T8 though and will better relieve Town Hall and Wynyard.
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Nice to see a hole in the ground that will actually benefit the people unlike the 1990s where it was for corporate greed.boronia wrote:Recent view of station excavation in Bathurst St.
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Despite the financial situation, Gladys was saying (I think in respect of stadiums) recently that the work should continue because it provides jobs for people and this is the best way to boost the economy.Linto63 wrote:Inquiry into Sydenham to Bankstown conversion released. Predictably the opposition members of the Upper House Transport & Customer Service Committee found that the conversion should not proceed, while the government members dissented. Does however give the government an out should it seek to scale back the project, given that there will inevitably have to be some cutbacks to projects as a result of the state's weakened financial position.
If the metro was terminated at Sydenham, then so should the Bankstown line and people can change. This would still free up the City Circle?
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boronia wrote: If the metro was terminated at Sydenham, then so should the Bankstown line and people can change. This would still free up the City Circle?
Haha, perhaps to annoy the whingers, T3 maybe should terminate at Sydenham
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Can't terminate T3 at a Sydenham now you've lost Platforms 1 and 2 to the metro.
As T8 also uses Platforms 3 and 4 in the Peak and suspect not capacity on 5 and 6 to shift it to mix with T4.
As T8 also uses Platforms 3 and 4 in the Peak and suspect not capacity on 5 and 6 to shift it to mix with T4.