Metrobus a few years on: a success?

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Linto63 wrote:But nothing like a shiny new toy for the pollies to wheel out for the voters, and gives the marketing types something to crow about. Bit like what we now have with the B-Line. From the recent timetable changes and with standard livery buses appearing on Metrobus routes and vice versa as often as not, seems that inevitably the brand will quitely be phased out.
I would say that it has commenced - Hillsbus have repainted their first Metrobus into TfNSW livery.
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Transdev has done at least five over the last few years - with new Metrobus unit also in blue and white.
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moa999 wrote: Agreed.
But now that Sydney Ferries is privatised I would have thought their is rationale behind actually incorporating it fully in the Public system.

Manly Ferry is arguably different as it's a premium (express) service.

(Presumably Captain Cook actually makes money on the routes as it stands)
Sydney Ferries is only "privatised" in the sense that a private company actually operates the ferries. It is still part of the Government network.

MFF and CCC can be compared, whether "premium or not, as they are privately owned companies and can set their own fares (within limits determined by IPART)
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VivalaBuses wrote:
Linto63 wrote:But nothing like a shiny new toy for the pollies to wheel out for the voters, and gives the marketing types something to crow about. Bit like what we now have with the B-Line. From the recent timetable changes and with standard livery buses appearing on Metrobus routes and vice versa as often as not, seems that inevitably the brand will quitely be phased out.
I would say that it has commenced - Hillsbus have repainted their first Metrobus into TfNSW livery.
Which one is it??? :shock:
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9865, remarkably also the first 14.5m bus in the fleet in TfNSW livery (and possibly the state?)
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boronia wrote:Not at Eddy Ave:
Eddy Ave TT (Small).jpg
I haven't looked at others yet
Well, I looked at Stand B today, and see that the m30 times are shown with all the other services there.

No consistency what so ever. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Not strictly a Metrobus service, but a cross-city route nonetheless which has been discussed here, walking west along Broadway this afternoon from Central, of the 4 route 440s that passed me heading towards Bondi Junction, 3 were full and standing while other buses that also came from Parramatta Road, 438, 483, M10s etc were all fairly lightly loaded. While not 100% scientific, given that the 440s could have been first on the scene after a lull at some of the stops, but seemed to indicate a high level of demand for this cross-city route.
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Linto63 wrote: While not 100% scientific, given that the 440s could have been first on the scene after a lull at some of the stops, but seemed to indicate a high level of demand for this cross-city route.
I keep saying, everywhere, the government being hell-bent on having everything terminate outside/at the edge of the city (B-line being the latest to be included in this) is not a good thing, nor is it really a good look for visitors that might want to see some of the city on the bus - instead of being egged on to go down the stairs into Wynyard station and see a dark tunnel instead. Some people just don't like changing lines on public transport. They have to give up their seat, risk not being able to get another one, or if its raining, self-explanatory.
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VivalaBuses wrote:9865, remarkably also the first 14.5m bus in the fleet in TfNSW livery (and possibly the state?)
9507 has also been repainted.

Anyone got any pics of either of these two?
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What does this have to do with Metrobus?????
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I have been informed that as part of the bus changes associated with the opening of Sydney Metro Northwest, all the Metrobus routes that cross paths with the line will be renumbered to avoid confusion. This will include the M40, M41, M54, M60 and M61 services. That would be a large portion of the Metrobus network struck from the maps.
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Why just the north west? Just give all the second generation metrobuses their original numbers,
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boronia wrote:Why just the north west? Just give all the second generation metrobuses their original numbers,
The unamalgamation of the M91 would mean the return of routes 910 and 948
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Who says they would be unamalgamated?
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J_Busworth wrote:I have been informed that as part of the bus changes associated with the opening of Sydney Metro Northwest, all the Metrobus routes that cross paths with the line will be renumbered to avoid confusion. This will include the M40, M41, M54, M60 and M61 services. That would be a large portion of the Metrobus network struck from the maps.

So even if M41 only duplicates SMNW between Macq Uni and Macq Park stations, it'll get renumbered?

May as well just call them B40, B41, B54 etc as it was suggested in Sydney's Bus Future.
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boronia wrote:Why just the north west? Just give all the second generation metrobuses their original numbers,
M41 has no original number! :lol: Brand new route.

Or maybe, we should now call it the 410 :lol: :lol: :lol:
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^ Correct.
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Stu wrote:^ Correct.
Correct, as in M41 will become 410? :shock:

Or simply M41 --> B41?
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Route number 410 will be resurrected.
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swtt wrote:
boronia wrote:Why just the north west? Just give all the second generation metrobuses their original numbers,
M41 has no original number! :lol: Brand new route.

Or maybe, we should now call it the 410 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why not? It's a vacant number now.
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Stu wrote:Route number 410 will be resurrected.
Admittedly I do like the "M" branding. I live around the Concord/Rhodes area, and the introduction of this route in 2010 was a watershed moment for bus services (we only had a crappy 458/non existent 459 service prior).

Seeing the original number disappear is just a little sad. :cry:
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J_Busworth wrote:I have been informed that as part of the bus changes associated with the opening of Sydney Metro Northwest, all the Metrobus routes that cross paths with the line will be renumbered to avoid confusion. This will include the M40, M41, M54, M60 and M61 services. That would be a large portion of the Metrobus network struck from the maps.
My guess:
M41->410
M54->548
M60->600
M61->610X

M40 is difficult to guess. 272?
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stupid_girl wrote: M61->610X
Seeing that almost every 610X got converted to M61 only during 2017, it really does seem silly for it to revert.

Maybe the rapid route branding could get rolled out even if only to this route...B6. :idea:

M40 can be renumbered 378 and sent straight into Bronte to silence some of the loud residents Image
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stupid_girl wrote:
M40 is difficult to guess. 272?
210 ?
This ties in with the 200 BJI to Chatswood (emulates the 400-410-420 connections)
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