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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby ScaniaGrenda » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:18 pm

TA3001 wrote:Wouldn't be in SA, but which outlet was it?


Market Town Woolworths NSW.

Had I not been paying attention to the price or register screen there's a good chance they would've gotten away with it till I would've gotten home.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Newcastle Flyer » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:55 pm

Um to the ads on the media - it's AFTER Mon 31 Dec 2018, no use of advertising the events on today!

Did last year's Australian of the Year get naturalised and become an Australian citizen? If not, then she has no right being "AOFY"
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Swift » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:43 pm

Foreigner of the year. This leftist inclusive rubbish has to be reigned in.
Uber and bus services are very similar. Customers who don't deserve the service they are getting and blame defaulting to drivers.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Newcastle Flyer » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:32 pm

Swift, I'm not saying hasn't become a naturalised Australia, she might have become a citizen, I was just asking.

And again Mr or Mrs motorist, when ARE YOU GOING TO GO ON THE GREEN? No wonder vehicles missed a cycle of traffic lights. Now repeat after me, "Green means to go if safe."

And again we have dirty people who DON'T COVER THEIR BLOOMIN' MOUTH &/OR NOSE WHEN THEY COUGH/SNEEZE.

Admins on here that allow signatures such as the garbage of "Jan 26: Invasion Day". I haven't seen anyone hand back their keys & land yet and leave Australia.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:48 pm

Newcastle Flyer wrote:
And again we have dirty people who DON'T COVER THEIR BLOOMIN' MOUTH &/OR NOSE WHEN THEY COUGH/SNEEZE.


Continues to annoy the hell out of me too. It even annoys me when I see folks covering it with the palm of their hand, as the germs still get spread about on everything they touch. There is nothing wrong with using a sleeve or something for this purpose.

Now, how do I get this message through to the 15 million or more offenders in this country?
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Postby Newcastle Flyer » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:35 pm

A few people, that are crowing/whinging about how their is no seating/shelters at Fassifern Station.

Gee what do you people think these are https://tinyurl.com/FASSFN? And their is even an water bubblier with iced water on the platform.

These one or two are whinging that they have to walk 49½ metres via the footpath, or 46 metres if you use the road. It will do these people good to walk 40 - 50 metres.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Newcastle Flyer » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:53 pm

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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Newcastle Flyer » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:44 am

Suburban passengers getting on interurban trains. They are designed for interurban travel, NOT suburban travel.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:37 am

Newcastle Flyer wrote:Suburban passengers getting on interurban trains. They are designed for interurban travel, NOT suburban travel.


Well I'd much rather get from Blacktown or Parra to Central on a V Set over a bloody Waratrash any day.

Just about the same way as how if I'm riding from Lidcombe to Bankstown, I'll happily jump onto the Volgren on the crowded M92 rather than the 925 which, 8 times out of 10, has a Bustech VST.

It's not just getting a vehicle that I can rely on, but also getting one that won't give me an injury on the way to work or somewhere. The seating on the Waratahs (and the OSCARs for that matter) are no good at all for a brother who has to travel 35-40km down to the city and suffers from quite a few sore bones from time to time, and it feels like all hell will break loose once those "New Intercity Fleet" units get here from Korea.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:01 pm

BanksfielderIdiot823 wrote:
Just about the same way as how if I'm riding from Lidcombe to Bankstown, I'll happily jump onto the Volgren on the crowded M92 rather than the 925 which, 8 times out of 10, has a Bustech VST.


Aren't Bustech bodies far superior to any other bus body ever built? Sadly, these are infesting Adelaide due to the company setting up a facility in the northern suburbs. They're worse to catch than a CC jackpot CB80.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:07 pm

TA3001 wrote:Aren't Bustech bodies far superior to any other bus body ever built? Sadly, these are infesting Adelaide due to the company setting up a facility in the northern suburbs. They're worse to catch than a CC jackpot CB80.


HA! They think they're far superior to everyone else, but in the hard grips of reality, that won't happen in a thousand years. The better-built than any other bus body award easily goes to Volgren, since they can actually build stuff properly, something that I'm aware that Custom has ceased doing upon working on the CB80s.

Yeah, I heard about Precision co-opping with Bustech over there in Adelaide. And in fact, the worst of the worst when it comes to Bustech VSTs are the Scanias from State Transit (and the handful from Region 6 transferred to TSA) here in Sydney. Just yesterday, my sister nearly got sick after riding on one of them.

Worse to catch than a CB80? You damn right.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:33 pm

I think Volgren has gone downhill a little bit in the last 10 years starting with the later CR228L rigid body, but they're still ahead of CC. Re your sister, how did this occur? I'm curious. I know that the dotted matrix that is part of the interior paneling is something that is exclusive to this manufacturer, and I don't think it's a good thing at all.

The Sydney built Iveco I caught the other night wasn't completely awful, but then these don't have the jelly suspensions that the Scanias in Adelaide do. They're quite smooth, and not as bland as the Scanias.

By some strange coincidence, I think of a CB80 when I see the bench seats on a modern Volgren, despite them having more padding that the plastic ones previously used. I've only noticed via photos, as Adelaide has next to no Volgrens built beyond 2012.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby ScaniaGrenda » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:45 pm

Had a cyclist come up my rear backside while I was walking on a tight pedestrian sidewalk (tight being limited space due to construction work on a building and the scaffolding taking up half of the sidewalk) I only knew something was wrong when I had a gut feeling something wanted to get past me so I turn my head and this cyclist is really close to me, I let him through and say to him "A little bit of warning would be nice for next time" I got an "oh sorry about that".

The bike was fitted with a bell and he could've rung it and I would've moved over where possible and let him through, but he didn't at any point give any warning he wanted to get through or past. I didn't really like how close he was to me either.

I've seen other cyclists use their bell with no trouble, as for why the guy was on a sidewalk with a bike, he was riding with I assume he's wife and daughter
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:50 pm

TA3001 wrote:Re your sister, how did this occur? I'm curious. I know that the dotted matrix that is part of the interior paneling is something that is exclusive to this manufacturer, and I don't think it's a good thing at all.

The Sydney built Iveco I caught the other night wasn't completely awful, but then these don't have the jelly suspensions that the Scanias in Adelaide do. They're quite smooth, and not as bland as the Scanias.


My sister had to get to Sydney Airport to return a rental car she used to take a trip out of town earlier and had to take the 420 bus out of there and be picked up by our mother. She felt dizzy on that bus from a numerous amount of factors.

The 420 (Burwood - Eastgardens operated by TSA Region 6) is completely run by the former STA Kingsgrove depot, who have nothing but Scanias, and whose 20.9% of their fleet is Bustech VSTs. (35 VSTs out of 167 buses; 34 are K280UBs, then the one K310UB). All of State Transit's Scania Bustechs has a nasty design flaw. You have the usual sloped floor, step at the middle door and windowline (which they somehow dogged their way around with the later VSTs over in Adelaide.) and the dotted matrix as you said. But there's a bit more. The STA Scania Bustechs are built with the backrest of the seats at a straight upright form; you're not slanted back like the other buses. I'm not so sure how the bottom bit of the seat is done, but it's probably either at the 90-degree angle or slanted down, along with the usual Bustech floor. You also have the very little legroom.

Now you said the suspensions on Adelaide's Scanias are jelly-like. You are so lucky. The suspensions on the STA VST Scanias (and this can also go for the crap-ton of CB80 Scanias with Punchbowl Bus Company) feel like they're rock solid, and you feel every bump, every pothole, every kerb jump.

To make it worse; much of Kingsgrove's drivers. Here's the thing: If you get on a Kingsgrove bus that is 20 minutes late and the driver is angry, you better hurry and sit your butt down and hold the hell on, particularly with it being a Scania, because when these drivers hit the pedal, they drive, turn and brake so violently like it's nobody business, that whoever is not holding on will probably get thrown to the floor and end up in hospital. This includes turning extremely fast at intersections and flooring the pedal again. (Again, the same can go for Punchbowl's Scanias) Imagine having all that in one ride. Wouldn't sound so good now, wouldn't it?

I'm of a Fijian family and as expected, we're quite big folks. So what my poor sister had was a mixture of a STA Bustech with the sloped floor, upright seating and little legroom, mixed in with a driver who goes violent on the pedals and the wheel, and the roughness of this city's Scanias. That mix had made her so dizzy when she got off the bus and got into our mum's car. She's better now.

Thanks for asking by the way.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Newcastle Flyer » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:16 pm

To Miss or Mrs newsreader, it's pronounced "Tom-a-go", not "Tom-mar-go" & Charlestown, not Charleston.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:17 pm

BanksfielderIdiot823 wrote:
I'm of a Fijian family and as expected, we're quite big folks. So what my poor sister had was a mixture of a STA Bustech with the sloped floor, upright seating and little legroom, mixed in with a driver who goes violent on the pedals and the wheel, and the roughness of this city's Scanias. That mix had made her so dizzy when she got off the bus and got into our mum's car. She's better now.


I didn't notice anything on 1973 except the hardness of the seat at the front when I went on it on Dec 23rd. But then, the driver behind the wheel wasn't by any means a lunatic. Like any modern bus, they're on the list to avoid unless there is no other option. I don't pay much attention to minor details with these Deloreans when boarding them, and I haven't noticed a potential lack of slanted seats. The Custom Coaches CB80 seats are admittedly not the worst I've sat on on a bus, but they're almost the same as on the L94UBs which are a much less dull chassis.

This experience sounds horrible, and is totally unacceptable on a public service. You need to file an official complaint, and you could even mention it via talk back radio if you're daring enough. If nobody finds out, it will just go undetected. It's good to hear that your sister has recovered from this ordeal. Public transport is not like what you'd expect in a limo, but it is not meant to inflict discomfort or health issues either.

'Bustech' has already been brought to the attention of the media due to the window line, but it doesn't mean anything to the SA government who just want the cheapest option available regardless of the design flaws.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:30 pm

TA3001 wrote:This experience sounds horrible, and is totally unacceptable on a public service. You need to file an official complaint, and you could even mention it via talk back radio if you're daring enough. If nobody finds out, it will just go undetected. It's good to hear that your sister has recovered from this ordeal. Public transport is not like what you'd expect in a limo, but it is not meant to inflict discomfort or health issues either.

'Bustech' has already been brought to the attention of the media due to the window line, but it doesn't mean anything to the SA government who just want the cheapest option available regardless of the design flaws.


Thank you. And trust me, so many complaints have been sent, so many discussions on the radio and yet, Transport for NSW just tosses every single complaint out the window every time and continue doing things their way like any arrogant group would.
I mean, anyone that does go for a complaint will get given back the same old copy+paste message around the terms of...
"Thank you for your feedback. We have taken it into consideration." ...and nothing happens.

But then again, that's Sydney for you, the New South Welsh land of bureaucrats and corporate scumbags that only do what they feel like and don't give a damn about the people they serve.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:54 pm

Wasn't aware that they had copped media flak. Sounds awful. I wonder if a drop in patronage would do anything to persuade them to get their act together? Sounds like they have a DILLI*** attitude towards patrons and only care about how much $ they make. Which actual company runs the service?

Torrens Transit in Adelaide seems to be more friendly towards those putting complaints through, and seem to be fairly strict compared to Light City Buses who finally left the scene mid last year. At least they question the driver behind the wheel of the vehicle when somebody complains, going by what I've heard.

One driver got the sack for doing 22kph over the speed limit, but there are still a few duds that are willing to exceed the posted speed limits on occasion. I have no idea what causes drivers to do 70+kph in 60 zones in 23-24 year old high floor buses, but it seems to occur with drivers from Mile End and Morphettville (also recognised with a similar but not identical name which I won't mention here).
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:31 pm

Yep. Radio, Daily Telegraph, and a whole load of bad rap on the local newspapers. That Inner West region that has the 420 is under Transit Systems; the same parent company for Torrens Transit, but they've only had them for about six months now. Before that, they were under the government-operated State Transit Authority (they still have the Eastern Suburbs, Lower North Shore and North East Parramatta) and oh boy, not just the passengers but the drivers themselves as well; they would get put under so much stress by TfNSW, tying them to observe unrealistic timetables, threatening disciplinary action for not meeting a certain benchmark despite the fact that Sydney traffic means they can do nothing about the situation they're in at the moment.

To make it worse, when Transit Systems got that Inner West contract, Transport for NSW would offer some big bonus pay or something to the drivers that stay on time. This led to some of the drivers making dangerous maneuvers around the city to try and meet that benchmark even though in reality it's impossible. I'm just glad that at least Transit Systems' Region 3 operation in my area Fairfield City; some of the more local management, the drivers and the public can all sympathise with each other.

And to think, after all that, Transport for NSW STILL refuses to accept any responsibility. Everything that's happened across the modes, every major incident, they've blamed the drivers, they've blamed frontline, they've blamed everyone and everything else, they have refused every call to reimburse passengers if a major incident occurred, the beef they're having with the company they've leased off the CBD/South East tramway to is going back and forth, they had so much money before to fix problems and give the necessary upgrades such as lifts to stations which have a lot of elderly folks and families but wasted it all on new signage and liveries, and they keep proclaiming themselves to be "world-class". Damn crooks...
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:12 pm

But anyway, how about the damned parents (if they even qualify as such) who lock their children inside the car during a heatwave???
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby mcmuttley » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:58 am

Staff that don't turn up for shifts and one lovely person has just rang and said that I'm finished with the job bad enough with shortage of people wanting to work dole is to easy for them to get lazy people I cant stand especially if I just had to do a double shift.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Merc1107 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:42 am

BanksfielderIdiot823 wrote:The better-built than any other bus body award easily goes to Volgren, since they can actually build stuff properly, something that I'm aware that Custom has ceased doing upon working on the CB80s.
It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts after a visit to Perth.

I've rode on a number of Darwin's CB80-bodied Mercedes-Benz O 500 LEs that operate for TerritoryTransit. Haven't found any niggle with them to date. Both TerritoryTransit and the other Darwinbus contractor Buslink operate a number of Volgren-bodied buses, so it's quite easy to make a comparison between vehicles of equal age and fairly similar usage.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:28 pm

Feeling as though I'm breaking the law by wanting to transfer some .mp3 files to my phone.

The socket has sh!t itself, as in I can only connect it to the PC for charging (no file transfer options appear). I can't even do an internet search due to the pathetic mobile signal in this area, and even connecting to the internet at this address gives no result. Just attempts to load for infinity without a bar even appearing.

So incredibly frustrating! I have seven .mp3 files sitting on the PC, and I can't even look up some app called wifi file transfer for download onto my phone. Mobile dropbox is useless as it just hangs infinitely when loading.

I much preferred to be able to transfer these files from my PC directly to the phone. I don't want to replace the phone, as it is not even 2 years old yet. It's just the USB socket that has aged due to frequent use.

Not what I'd call enjoyable exactly.

BanksfielderIdiot823 wrote:And to think, after all that, Transport for NSW STILL refuses to accept any responsibility. Everything that's happened across the modes, every major incident, they've blamed the drivers, they've blamed frontline, they've blamed everyone and everything else, they have refused every call to reimburse passengers if a major incident occurred, the beef they're having with the company they've leased off the CBD/South East tramway to is going back and forth, they had so much money before to fix problems and give the necessary upgrades such as lifts to stations which have a lot of elderly folks and families but wasted it all on new signage and liveries, and they keep proclaiming themselves to be "world-class". Damn crooks...


Some bus depots/departments just get to me so much that I give them an official name that describes them almost perfectly. This situation with NSW PT sounds comparable to what I've described.

Your last comment reminds me of each time I go through Adelaide Railway station, with the stupid ticket barriers that charge you for a journey you haven't commenced. If you complain about it, they just say 'Oh that's how it works'. I try to avoid going there at all, but unfortunately it's the only place to recharge the alleged 'smart card' after hours in the Adelaide CBD. And regarding this particular depot, I am more than willing to elaborate on it if you wish.
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby Merc1107 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:43 pm

"Airplane!" movie being mauled by the PC-brigade for broadcast TV. The average person makes far more crude remarks than this movie alludes to.

Why can't the bastards go after a real problem!?
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Re: What gives you the S&#T's!?

Postby TA3001 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:13 am

Those Farcebook posts that are essentially an image with a question engraved in it. Honestly, what the hell is behind this unusual trend?

I wonder what would occur if I posted on this forum in the same style.
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