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VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Tue May 14, 2019 6:09 pm

Australiasian Bus and Coach wrote:BREAKING: MARCOPOLO-OWNED Volgren has begun its move into zero-emission vehicle technology, starting its first ever electric bus production onto a BYD e-bus chassis, it’s reported recently.


Volgren has access to a range of electric bus technologies and types, including electric rigid, articulated and bi-articulated (rubber-tyred tram) buses, the company says.
Touted as Australia’s largest bus body builder, Volgren says its prototype will be completed by the middle of June, 2019, and will include 324kWh of batteries, enabling a range of more than 250 kilometres on a single charge.

According to the company, the depleted batteries will take 4-5 hours to fully replenish with the use of a charger, a system commonly known as overnight or depot charging.

Volgren Business Development manager Jon Tozer says the company has been investigating electric vehicles for more than five years and the prototype itself has been a full 12 months in the making.

"We’ve known for some time that the bus industry was about to go through its biggest transformation in three or four decades. And we wanted to approach this shift with the best information at our disposal. We wanted to understand the products, the technologies and the solutions available in the market before beginning our work in earnest.

"In the case of this first electric bus, we wanted to ensure that we built on a known quantity. We didn’t want to conduct a science experiment, or work with a conglomerate of part suppliers attempting to provide a solution. We wanted something that will work from the start."

COST MATTERS
Tozer says while the initial capital cost of the bus will be higher than a standard diesel, that’s not the full story.

"When you take into account the significant operation saving in maintenance and energy costs per kilometre - as well as the significant fall in the cost and increase in energy density of batteries over the last few years - we’re nearing the point where total cost of ownership will soon be the same as it is for a diesel, if it isn’t already."

And although the news of the prototype is just off the presses, the industry response has been positive, says Volgren.

"More operators and agencies are looking to zero emissions buses for the first time and, since announcing this build, we’ve been encouraged by the interest we’ve received from government and private operators."

"Volgren has always specialised in the design, development and application of new technologies. We’ve introduced many revolutionary bus solutions to the market – starting with aluminium bodies. "We pride ourselves on providing engineering solutions that meet the developing needs of our customers, and we’re more than ready to take on the challenge of developing the best possible bus body for electric buses."

PROVEN TECHNOLOGY
Tozer says thanks to its long-standing partnership with Swiss manufacturer Hess and other OEMs, Volgren has access to a range of electric bus technologies and types, including electric rigid, articulated and bi-articulated (rubber-tyred tram) buses. It also has access to a multitude of proven charge and battery technologies already in operation around the world.

"To further assist operators, Volgren has partnered with businesses that can provide infrastructure installation, grid connections and upgrades and funding and leasing models on the bus, batteries or infrastructure. We’re helping them close the loop as they shift from a diesel bus to an electric."

Tozer says the first bus will become available to the market in August after a month of testing, which will be undertaken by Volgren’s engineering department.

"We’re looking forward to the new chapter in the history of the Australian bus industry and being able to offer our customers the latest technology. Volgren is open to discussing in detail our project and future solutions available to market with operators."


Looks like Volgren is starting to build an electric bus.....
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:12 am

Another news article:

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Australian bus builder Volgren to produce its first all-electric vehicle

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Australian bus body manufacturer Volgren has commenced production of its first ever electric bus, as part of what the company hopes is a larger transition to zero-emissions transport.

The milestone is the culmination of a five-year development period for Volgren, which has sought to be pro-active in shifting to all electric buses, while wanting to ensure passengers enjoy a reliable service.



Volgren says it is Australia’s largest producer of bus bodies and has previously partnered with major chassis manufacturers including MAN, Volvo and Scania.

“We’ve known for some time that the bus industry was about to go through its biggest transformation in three or four decades. And we wanted to approach this shift with the best information at our disposal.” Volgren business development manager Jon Tozer said in a statement.

“We wanted to understand the products, the technologies and the solutions available in the market before beginning our work in earnest,”

Volgren will complete its first prototype electric bus in June, with an operating range of 250km. The prototype will be produced at Volgren’s Australian headquarters in Dandenong in Victoria.

The bus will be equipped with 324kWh of battery storage, that can be charged in four to five hours between routes upon returning to its depot.

The first bus will be ready for its first passengers in August, following a period of testing by Volgren engineers.

Due to the falling cost of battery technologies, Volgren believes the bus market is on the cusp of being cost competitive with existing diesel fuelled options.


While all electric buses still have higher up-front purchase costs, significantly lower operating costs, including reduced fuel costs, mean that electric buses will soon be cheaper over the full life of the vehicle, if not already.

This story was first published on our EV-focused sister site The Driven. Click there for the full story.[/quote]
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby lunchbox » Fri May 17, 2019 9:47 am

Hope it has a fully flat floor, there being no tailshaft or diff to warrant those stairs!
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby TA3001 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:09 pm

Is this all caps thread title really necessary?
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby tonyp » Fri May 17, 2019 1:41 pm

lunchbox wrote:Hope it has a fully flat floor, there being no tailshaft or diff to warrant those stairs!

There's still a driveshaft but on one side under the seats. It also needs a portal axle to be low floor.
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Fri May 17, 2019 4:28 pm

TA3001 wrote:Is this all caps thread title really necessary?


Sorry, The title of the article on the website was like that :/
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby Tongans101 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:40 pm

tonyp wrote:
lunchbox wrote:Hope it has a fully flat floor, there being no tailshaft or diff to warrant those stairs!

There's still a driveshaft but on one side under the seats. It also needs a portal axle to be low floor.


It does not have a drive shaft. Its based on the BYD K9 chassis which has two motors both mounted on the rear Portal Axle Hubs. There will be no flat floor however as there are two battery packs mounted behind the rear axle. Similar to the Gemilang Bodied (BYD) Electric buses that were trialled in Canberra and currently running around Brisbane and Sydney Airports.
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:36 am

I saw a photo of The bus on Facebook wearing Transdev logos
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby OLYMPIAN » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:26 pm

MotorOmnibus8562 wrote:I saw a photo of The bus on Facebook wearing Transdev logos

Hi are you able to tell which Facebook group was it?
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:50 pm

I think it was one of the Victoria enthusiasts groups, I don’t remember which one it was....
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby Leyland B21 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:33 am

OLYMPIAN wrote:
MotorOmnibus8562 wrote:I saw a photo of The bus on Facebook wearing Transdev logos

Hi are you able to tell which Facebook group was it?
It's the Bus Enthusiasts Victoria group and yes the Bus is in trials with Transdev Melbourne

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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby tonyp » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:08 am

You'd have to join the group to see the photo. There seems to be nothing from Transdev, PTV or Volgren. All very secret compared to NSW where there's plenty of coverage. Maybe Transit Graphics or ABC will eventually come up with photos?
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby Tongans101 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:34 pm

tonyp wrote:You'd have to join the group to see the photo. There seems to be nothing from Transdev, PTV or Volgren. All very secret compared to NSW where there's plenty of coverage. Maybe Transit Graphics or ABC will eventually come up with photos?



Its a secret because the bus does not have DoTaRs Approval. The Chassis SARN is not updated for the larger Tyres and there is no IPA for a BYD chassis Variant. Only way it can be on the road is for an engineering trial for 12 months or through NHVR PBS system.
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby Mitch » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:14 pm

A quick search will find you a photo.

https://twitter.com/declanmartin75/stat ... 6199491584

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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby tonyp » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:49 am

Tongans101 wrote: Only way it can be on the road is for an engineering trial for 12 months or through NHVR PBS system.

Mitch wrote:A quick search will find you a photo.

https://twitter.com/declanmartin75/stat ... 6199491584

It seems to be on a public road here! ;)
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Re: VOLGREN STARTS ITS FIRST ELECTRIC BUS BUILD: BYD CHASSIS

Postby Daniel » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:57 am

Tongans101 wrote:Its a secret because the bus does not have DoTaRs Approval. The Chassis SARN is not updated for the larger Tyres and there is no IPA for a BYD chassis Variant. Only way it can be on the road is for an engineering trial for 12 months or through NHVR PBS system.

It’s not registered, so perhaps they are awaiting the BYD approval to come through. The Volgren body SARN has been updated as at 7 August.
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