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Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:14 am

After a MALICIOUS ACT was carried out by a board member over the weekend, the board had to be restored.

The last good back up before the MALICIOUS ACT occurred was Friday morning 0700hrs, 18 September 2009.

This version of the board has now been restored.

Apologies for the loss of postings made over the weekend and for the inconvenience of missing accounts and so on in the last couple of days while things were being investigated and repaired. New usernames and passwords created over the weekend are now lost.

If you have any ongoing issues with passwords and so on, please contact an administrator by PM.

Your username and password as used on Friday 18 Sept 09 will be the one that gets you into the board. Obviously if you are reading this, you already know that - however, if you are speaking to other people before they try to log in again, then please let them know.


Thanks for your patience,

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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby ALBION1881 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:45 am

And I can see what this site breakdown has done it has thrown a lot of stuff back posts posted over the weekend like you said gone and a lot of stuff thrown back to later date it has been one big ballsup and a very big mess to clean up I hope it don`t happen again.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby funbus » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:20 am

thanks for getting us the people who lost service back on board!! 8) Hope it doesnt happen again to often boys!!
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<smarTTrams> not so smart (for not saving)!

Postby <smarTTrams> » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:29 am

For me the loss of this weekend's postings is really grim. I did a whole lot of posting yesterday --not so much the number of posts but the detail and recollections I put into them!

Years ago when my posts were being regularly deleted by admins in an earlier version of this board, I used to save everything I posted. But this board and its software have been so reliable for so long that I don't bother to save backups of my posts anymore.

I guess the sensible thing to do is to get into the habit of always saving any posts into which I have put a big investment of time and energy, just to be on the safe side!

Also, Herbert's posting of photos taken during a Perth trolley bus re-enactment in motor bus 171 has gone completely!

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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:32 am

I am sorry, it couldn't be avoided.

Better that we revert back to Friday 18 September 09 than 1 March 09 to which the board had been reset by the person responsible.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby <smarTTrams> » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:55 am

It's not your fault Andrew, and of course you've chosen the best possible option.

It's a timely reminder that regular backing up of work done on a computer is ESSENTIAL. It's all too easy to think "She'll be right!" and not bother to back-up, but as damage can occur in so many ways and completely unpredictably, it is better to be safe than sorry!

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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby leyland clippers » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:10 am

Thank you for restoring board back to normal.It was frustrating not being able to access board over the weekend however no doubt you did your best to get it restored ASAP.Let's hope it doesn't happen again :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby Tim » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:13 pm

<smarTTrams> wrote:It's not your fault Andrew, and of course you've chosen the best possible option.

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It's not your fault Andrew it was xxxxxx off the board


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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby shovelyjoe » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:56 pm

Andrew wrote:After a MALICIOUS ACT was carried out by a board member over the weekend, the board had to be restored.


How would a board member be able to do that?
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby eddy » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:06 pm

That’s a relief to me . I thought that I had been deleted by the moderators.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby C130 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 pm

By knowing an admin Login.....
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby RailwayBus » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:10 pm

Tim wrote:
<smarTTrams> wrote:It's not your fault Andrew, and of course you've chosen the best possible option.

<smarTTrams>
It's not your fault Andrew it was xxxxxx off the board


We all know who the culprit was, and it was an extremely malicious thing to do, but there is no need to go pointing fingers here. Leave the fighting to Facebook. The importance of this announcement was to say the board has been restored to Friday, and anything since then has been lost. Lets keep it that way, shall we?

A massive thank you to Andrew for restoring the board - Top job mate!

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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby T1200 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:57 pm

The previous global announcement by Ken stated that we expected to lose any posts made from Friday evening onwards. Thank you to the Administrators and our server administrator for their efforts to restore our database.

This was not a system error, or a system glitch as some users have described - it was, as stated above, a malicious act by one of our users. The who/what/when/why does not need to be discussed here, however should there be any further concerns an Administrator can be contacted via Private Message.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby ALBION1881 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:18 pm

I am not worried anymore at least it is fixed and hope I the culprit that did this gets a size 10 where the sun Don`t shine and thanks to all admin for getting the wheels turninig again and with this all behind us we can look to the future.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby idontcare » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:51 pm

Whew - at least I now know what happened. Hey an email response to my email "account deleted etc" would have been nice!
But thanks for getting it all running again guys.
After a MALICIOUS ACT was carried out by a board member over the weekend....

I assume this quote should have read: "After a MALICIOUS ACT was carried out by an EX-board member...."
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby MaxHeadway » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:40 pm

ALBION1881 wrote:I ... hope I the culprit that did this gets a size 10 where the sun Don`t shine

More than that, could their IP address be traced and criminal charges laid? Anyway, many thanks to the mods for working hard to restore the lost posts and profiles.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby chevinoz » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:56 pm

eddy wrote:That’s a relief to me . I thought that I had been deleted by the moderators.


You're not on your 'Pat Malone' there! I thought it was as a result of my response to a nosey PM the night before, I thought the guy must have been "connected". After spilling my guts to Ken and begging for forgiveness it turns out this way. :oops: :lol:

Thanks for your efforts guys 8)
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby dannyr » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:56 am

MaxHeadway wrote:
ALBION1881 wrote:I ... hope I the culprit that did this gets a size 10 where the sun Don`t shine

More than that, could their IP address be traced and criminal charges laid? Anyway, many thanks to the mods for working hard to restore the lost posts and profiles.


Having been involved in a similar situation before, the legalities are very grey.

While this site has one thing going for it - in that it's hosted in Australia - for any legal matters to be pursued it needs to be confirmed that the user was in fact within Australia, and doing what he did with malicious intent and knowledge. If the attack was made through a known - or well publicied security hole - it becomes difficult to prosecute even if you can find police who want to become involve - another big issue.

Generally the police only want to become involved when it involves high profile sites. As much as we'd all argue that BusAustralia is one of our second homes online, script kiddies are generally only prosecuted if there is confirmation that the takedown or modification has caused loss of income to the site owner. The fact that there wouldn't be a huge banner ad / google ad click income from this site I'd say there's buckleys.

And of course you'd probably find that whoever did this is under 17 and as such would get a slap on the wrist from the boys in blue anyway :(
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby bentleyv8t » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:43 am

It wasn't me was it?
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:00 pm

bentleyv8t wrote:It wasn't me was it?

Are you serious? Guilty are you? I'd imagine the person responsible would have been banned and blocked from this site, and seeing as though you were able to post that, I think it's safe to say it's not you. But why would you say that? What have you been up to? Do you have something to hide? Why write something like that?

What's happened has happened, and it has now been restored. The individual concerned has been banished, so let's forget about it and get back to posting in the usual fora, no more trying to guess who did what. End of story.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby hornetfig » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:44 pm

Eagle Eye wrote:Are you serious? Guilty are you?


Conventionally something about malicious inflicting of damage to goods. But there's a whole raft of cybercrime legislation you don't want to fall afoul of because you'll get the book thrown at you. That said the chances of being prosecuted are pretty negligable.
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby TomKid. » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:13 pm

Thank you Admins and Mods for restoring.
The boeard would be no-where without you guys.

And i hope the bastard that did this gets caught :twisted:
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby ptlivestock » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:12 pm

Whew.... thanks for that clarifiction I prepared a pic while on line and made a post with the interuption of a power blackout, and the following morning found two folks had continued the thread.... then.... on taking another look all had dissppeared...... leaving me wondering whether I was losing my marbles....

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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby PRT 065 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:12 pm

Shame I wasnt Allowed to Merge the databases together to keep the other posts. After testing it would of been very easy
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Re: Board restored - 21 Sept 09

Postby bentleyv8t » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:55 pm

Nah. I posted the same thing twice by mistake on different pages, so i thought that caused a stir.
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