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Editing posts - why is there a delay?

Postby tone167 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:49 am

Just wondering, why is there a delay if I want to edit a post?

I'm one of those people who seems to have great difficulty with the 'Preview' button, so I usually submit my post and re-read it. Sometimes I want to quickly fix a typo or add a couple of extra words, so I go to edit and submit, and I get this ...

You cannot make another post so soon after your last; please try again in a short while.

Now, if is set up as a flood control for initial postings, fair enough. It just seems like a wee bit of overkill when all one needs to do is make a quick edit here and there.

This is the only board I know of that has this delay (not sure how long it is ... 60 seconds?) and I find it interrupts my flow.

Now, I COULD always just use the 'Preview' button, but old habits die hard.

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Postby Andrew » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:58 am

Yes the delay is there to stop flooding of the board - it happens to me as well when I want to make an edit. It's only 60 seconds....

Maybe you could get up and have a stretch - I can forward anyone some OFFICE ERGONOMICS exercises to do if they find they are stuck for something to do during the 60 seconds.....
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Postby Fleet Lists » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:11 am

Yes what Andrew says is true,

However recently I have noticed a problem that when it happens the edit I have made is lost and I have to do it again before I resubmit it..

I think that started after one of the outages we had.
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Postby tone167 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:13 am

Andrew wrote:Yes the delay is there to stop flooding of the board


Is there a way to change the board configuration so that the delay only applies to new posts/replies rather than edits of existing replies? It just seems a bit silly to have a delay for edits ... after all, how can anyone flood the board with edits?

Andrew wrote:Maybe you could get up and have a stretch - I can forward anyone some OFFICE ERGONOMICS exercises to do if they find they are stuck for something to do during the 60 seconds.....


If I do that, I will have forgotten what it is I wanted to edit 60 seconds ago. :D
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Postby Andrew » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:19 am

tone167 wrote: Is there a way to change the board configuration so that the delay only applies to new posts/replies rather than edits of existing replies?

Unfortunately we can't distinguish between and edit and a new post. Maybe the new version of the board software that is being trialled elsewhere can, I am not sure .

Andrew wrote:Maybe you could get up and have a stretch - I can forward anyone some OFFICE ERGONOMICS exercises to do if they find they are stuck for something to do during the 60 seconds.....

tone167 wrote: If I do that, I will have forgotten what it is I wanted to edit 60 seconds ago. :D

Ok, sorry we can't account for your primate like attention span! Maybe write your edit down during the 60 seconds so you can remember.... assuming you can write? :roll: :P
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Postby tone167 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:37 am

Andrew wrote:
tone167 wrote: Is there a way to change the board configuration so that the delay only applies to new posts/replies rather than edits of existing replies?

Unfortunately we can't distinguish between and edit and a new post. Maybe the new version of the board software that is being trialled elsewhere can, I am not sure .


Ah. Well, I'll just have to pace myself then. :)

Andrew wrote:Ok, sorry we can't account for your primate like attention span! Maybe write your edit down during the 60 seconds so you can remember.... assuming you can write? :roll: :P


I can write. Whether or not anyone can read it (myself included) is another issue - ooh, a blue car just went past! :D

Edit: Arrgh ... there it goes again!
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Postby J1 Rasberrycoke (J1R) » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:10 pm

if there is a way to distinguish, can you make the flood block at least 3 seconds... some randoms without a flood block will edit, then press their space bar and press edit again and then press their space bar again, basically if they press edit and then their space bar key and the edit button agian, before the page loads it will trigger a whole new edit, there for a person could submit 100 edits in the space of just a minute....
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Postby T1200 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:58 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:However recently I have noticed a problem that when it happens the edit I have made is lost and I have to do it again before I resubmit it..


I doubt it's a problem with the forum software. Use the "Back" button in your browser, then click submit again, repeating until it lets you put the edit in.
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Postby Fleet Lists » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:27 pm

T1200 wrote:
Fleet Lists wrote:However recently I have noticed a problem that when it happens the edit I have made is lost and I have to do it again before I resubmit it..


I doubt it's a problem with the forum software. Use the "Back" button in your browser, then click submit again, repeating until it lets you put the edit in.

That is exactly what I do and the problem is there then.
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Postby T1200 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:53 pm

Use FireFox then. 8)
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Postby TA3001 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:08 pm

Would it be possible just to disallow exact duplicates of another post? Not only would this prevent double posting but it would also reduce the problem of posts being posted in multiple sections particularly by new users who sometimes sign up just to flood boards with spam like on Railpage recently.

The delay in editing posts could also be made non existent
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Postby Craig » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:27 pm

Dear All

I have the same problem as Fleet Lists. When I hit back after being told I was too quick, the orginal post comes back, rather than the edited version.

Something else I notice is that if I want to make an second edit once my first edit is online, I don't have to wait the 60 seconds to submit my post. Why is that? :?:

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Postby T1200 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:27 pm

TA3001 wrote:Would it be possible just to disallow exact duplicates of another post? Not only would this prevent double posting but it would also reduce the problem of posts being posted in multiple sections particularly by new users who sometimes sign up just to flood boards with spam like on Railpage recently.

The delay in editing posts could also be made non existent


It is disallowed in board rules, but is not a feature of current board software.

There have been several anti-spam measures implemented by the Admin, and they have been a resounding success with a drop in the amount of spam registrations to this board.

The delay is necessary to prevent spammers from absolutely wrecking the board before Admins can get a go at them.

I suggest you all use the "Preview" button and just stop for a second before going "Submit".
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Postby Member1100 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:46 am

I was under the impression the delay was set up to stop people editing out their typos and spelling mistakes....to allow the other board members just enough time to see them and laugh at your poor language skills before you had the opportunity to change them. :twisted:
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Postby E.L.Wood » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:25 pm

A very good point but many are unable to perform a correction to something they are unable to ascertain is incorrectly spelt or composed in the first case - in line with declining standards in general!
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Postby T1200 » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:47 pm

What has irked me recently is that this "feature", while holding up people like ex-user chinimick2005 who ruined the Brisbane section within half an hour recently, stops me making more than one PM within the time limit.

...because a PM is a post.

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Postby Newcastle Flyer » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:49 am

Anyway to decrease the time of this "cannot edit, etc"
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Postby Andrew » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:17 pm

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